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    Ben is an undersized center playing against 7 footers

    i figure by definition he has to have a reach advantage

    Plus Sean Elliott said it best "[Ben Wallace] has got LIMBS for arms"

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    Ben is an undersized center playing against 7 footers

    i figure by definition he has to have a reach advantage

    Plus Sean Elliott said it best "[Ben Wallace] has got LIMBS for arms"

    Limbs...more like tree trunks.

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    http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...TS04/510160420




    IndyStar.com Sports Pacers

    October 16, 2005


    Hot corner
    Artest talks to Penthouse

    At first, Ron Artest didn't want to appear in Penthouse magazine.

    "I was going to shy away from it, with all the bad press I'm getting," the Indiana Pacers forward said. "But they gave me the opportunity to talk about my family and charities . . . things people don't know about me."

    Artest will be featured in the December issue, which hits newsstands Oct. 25. He is shown on the cover with three bikini-clad women.

    The interview reveals his gentler side. Of Pacers president Larry Bird, he says, "God put us together for a reason. He says he'd give up his salary for a year if 20 other millionaires would do the same to help poor people. And he agrees with Bill Cosby that poor African-Americans aren't doing enough to help themselves."

    Artest also suggests that he and Ben Wallace box on pay-per-view for $10 million.
    Artest's heart is in the right place, from his WORDS.

    but actions speak louder. and he just doesn't have the BALLS to give up
    his salary on his own does he? He needs 20 others...

    why doesn't he grow a in pair and LEAD THE WAY?

    EXACTLY. CUZ HE'S NO LEADER...NOT YET ANYWAY.

    Take the first step Ron, don't TALK, WALK!!!

    as for boxing Wallace? please, he had his chance and he backed down like a and decided to box fans instead.

    I actually LIKE Ron Artest. He has fire. But until he learns to CONTROL it, it's a big waste.

    pussies talk, MEN walk.

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    My money's on Ben. In addition to a considerable size and strength advantage you must also consider the shock absorbing properties of the fro.
    there will be 2 hits, ben hits ron, ron hits the canvas.

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    Limbs...more like tree trunks.

    he said it during a pistons game...it was funny because he really did mean tree trunks, but he just said "limbs for arms"

    get it?

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    sure

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    Ben is only like 6'9"...

    But he's much stronger than Ron-Ron. Ben would kick his ass.

    Doesn't Ben bench some ungodly amount (like 600 pounds or something)?
    Only person Ben needs to be afraid of is Shaq. Commentators noticed that Ben took a beating from Shaq and it took a while for him to get over that.
    Although Artest is crazy and big, he would get slaughtered in a fight with Big Ben. I think Artest needs some professional help, especially before he makes Ben mad. That would not be good.

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    People think that artest is small for some reason. I think if artest would be able to keep his composure he'd beat Ben in boxing but i don't think that would happan.

    Ultimate/street fighting i'd easily take Ron.


    But seriously. I'd pay $50 pay per view to see that . Thats a


    moneymaker waiting to happan.


    I'm SURE that that would fit into each others contracts also.



    No doubt Artest is a great athlete, very quick but also extremely strong. But next to Ben, he might as well be Pee Wee Herman on a bike.

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    Nah, Artest would be punked by Ben.
    Didn't the footage from the "Brawl" show that when he got mad, he ran over to fight the fans instead of Ben Wallace who shoved him earlier. Artest knows he will get schooled by Wallace.
    Exactly. He didn't stick around to see what Ben would do to him. Think he knows something that you might be missing, like the power of Brute force?
    Time to notify next of kin. Anybody get that license plate number? And what the heck is that grease spot on the pavement?

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    boxing is about skill and stamina.

    if artest has boxing knowledge?

    if it's in a controled 'boxing' environment with a ref?

    Ron could beat Ben. Although I do agree, If Ben connects on one of his punches, Ron is going down hard.

    i don't know what kind of 'Boxing' knowledge Ben has.

    but if i was on the street? i know i'm backing the fro. i got ben's back fo sure.

    now imagine an NBA team with BOTH of them on it?

    a defensive dream if Ron could be disciplined....

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    Some kind of psycological test should be mandatory in order to enter the nba

    What? Do you want to cripple the Pacers and the Pistons?
    Your favorite team in the East must be Miami.
    Besides Latrelle Sprewell's family has to eat!

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    a defensive dream if Ron could be disciplined....
    his name is Bruce Bowen, and he plays for the SPURS!

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    What? Do you want to cripple the Pacers and the Pistons?
    Your favorite team in the East must be Miami.
    Besides Latrelle Sprewell's family has to eat!

    Nah, just the Pacers. Sheed only has issues with refs who call garbage.

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    Artest has bulked up to 260 according to reports but I would give it to Ben as well =bigger heart!

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    Artest has bulked up to 260 according to reports but I would give it to Ben as well =bigger heart!
    I've been hearing he is up around 270-275.

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    Doesn't Ben bench some ungodly amount (like 600 pounds or something)?
    "Only" 460 (for multiple reps - no clue what his single-rep max would be).

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    CUZ HE'S NO LEADER...
    Ron doesn't have the mental capacity to be a leader. I don't say this to degrade Ron but when he's interviewed he comes across as being dumb. I swear I feel sorry for the guy, watching him struggle to put thoughts together...
    He's a great basketball talent but I'm not sure he'll ever be able to control himself without some serious outside intervention, be it medication, education...something.
    It'll be intense to watch Ron and Ben in their first rematch since the Artest meltdown.
    I just checked the schedule and we play the Pacers 4 times this season but the rematch isn't until the 46th game of the season, Feb. 4th ...think the powers that be had something to do with that late rematch?
    Probably a wise decision on the leagues part, Ron stands a fair chance of being suspended by then.

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    What a moron!

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    I have no idea how Ben fights, but from Artest's display of going up in the stands, he has little or no discipline. He didn't look very impressive at all going up against those average sized fans. Someone punching straight on could have gave him a good blow before he ever connected with his roundhouse right. Artest seems like he would be going on straight size and craziness alone, which wouldn't go very far against a good fighter in the same size range. Ron's words show aggression, but I didn't see it when Ben pushed him or when he was afraid a fan might punch him. He might just be a big p**** that tries to pysche people out.

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    That's why Artest is the biggest chode.

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    Artest has bulked up to 260 according to reports but I would give it to Ben as well =bigger heart!
    That's just him gaining weight from not playing, so he's a fat chode now

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    Its not like he's had a major injury like Voshon and thats why he's big. Carslie was quoted not too long ago about Artest logging some big minutes at PF. Dude's pretty damn big/buff.

    Has anyone else here actually been in any fights? Funny, anyone thats done some boxing is saying artest but I honestly believe most of the others in this thread are Tyler Durdin's before they hung out at Lou's Tavern.

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    Its not like he's had a major injury like Voshon and thats why he's big. Carslie was quoted not too long ago about Artest logging some big minutes at PF. Dude's pretty damn big/buff.

    Has anyone else here actually been in any fights? Funny, anyone thats done some boxing is saying artest but I honestly believe most of the others in this thread are Tyler Durdin's before they hung out at Lou's Tavern.
    Are you refering to Edward Nortons character (who was never named in the actual film but is referred to as "Jack" on the DVD box and in the menus) the skinny guy who's life goes to crap?

    or are you talking about Brad Pitts character Tyler Durden, the badass in the movie.

    either you got them mixed up or Im just not reading it right.
    Last edited by phyzik; 10-18-2005 at 10:40 PM.

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    Neither one of there personalities had ever been into a fight before, they stated this outside of Lou's. I used Tyler's name bc everyone knows who that is.


    I prefer "Narrator" so someone doesn't actually think his name is Jack.

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    I boxed golden gloves and then was a ring doctor in some fights on the semipro level.

    Boxing is discipline as much as anything and confidence. I cannot see Ben backing down from Artest, who would scare many lessor men, Ben in my opinion wins over a loose cannon like Artest unless Artest lands one early in a lucky flurry.(Artest does seem to have some baby fat on him on the SI cover!)

    I would pay to see this actually!

    by the way fans of the sweet science of boxing - Rocky lives and "Rocky Balboa" is coming to a theater near you next year!!!!!

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