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Shooting is overrated... The current MVP frontrunner can't shoot a lick
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Shooting is overrated... The current MVP frontrunner can't shoot a lick
He is more talented... More talented doesn't mean better... KG has more talent than Duncan, but Duncan is better... Dirk has more talent than Shaq, but Shaq is better... Murray has more talent than a 21 year old Parker (who couldn't shoot)... But Parker was better
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And you blame me for people ignoring your takes...
shooting does matter for PGs. If you can't shoot for as a PG, you're not going to be that good. Right now, even Russell Westbrook is like Larry Bird compared to Deounte when it comes to shooting the ball.
Murray won't take his game to next level until he can develop a jump shot AND be confident in doing so...
I've stated this at lease 50 11 times
Not true....period.
Pretty sure you and MrB are on the same side of this one, Coach.
?? Was he being sarcastic and I missed it?? Lol
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Yes, he's laughing at D2K5's claim about Murray being better than Parker at 21.
Say what? Garnet more talented than Duncan? Garnet didn’t have near as many moves as Duncan. Murray is a long player who can’t dribble or shoot. He is an eh passer and he gets blocked at the rim or makes bad decisions making him a below average finisher.
Parker came into the league with solid ball handling and elite finishing at the rim. He took about 4 years to get a jumper, but he turned into a great midrange shooter and his finishing in the paint ranks with the all time best guards. Parker had a ton of talent but also worked himself into a superstar.
Murray has a long way to go to fill those shoes and likely will never get seasons as good as Parker’s peak seasons.
nice jinx thread, got.
cd98, I'd say TP's ball handling was elite or close to it. He didn't do the fancy dribbling like Kyrie and Curry do now, but I always thought back then he had fantastic ball handling skills. I remember a game, I think it was against Dallas, where he was getting knocked around physically on one play while still keeping the dribble alive an inch from the ground without losing his handle on the ball. I always thought he was a great ball handler, not flashy, but still very good.
For some reason, I think his ball handling has slipped a bit these past few years. I don't know why as I didn't think ball handling is a skill that erodes over time. Before these past few seasons, I thought he was as good as anyone. Very solid ball handler with the game on the line too.
2 bad games!
The league allows more traveling today than it did back then. I feel half of the time Curry and Kyrie are allowed to palm the ball and get away with it. Parker's ball handling on the other hand was a hundred percent legit. If Parker came out today it would be entertaining to see what he could do ball handling wise since traveling is hardly called on PG's.
True. Would you also say that they're able to carry it more in today's game? I feel like they carry more too. I guess that's the same as palming.
Last season in the finals I remember Curry putting a spectacular move on Lebron, but when I saw the replay it was a blatant carry or double dribble I think. Does anyone remember that play? It made Lebron look silly in real time, but after seeing the replay it wasn't a legal play, yet I don't even recall the commentators saying anything about it.
Yep, found it. It was a blatant double dribble.
Last edited by Ice009; 10-27-2017 at 11:45 PM.
Palming and carrying is the same thing but yeah the league allows PG's to carry today without calling traveling. Parker would be invincible if he was allowed to carry back in the day. He would get a layup on every possession.
With the way you ppl rate the old Tony Parker, how did we ever lose?
And if u domt think garnett was more skilled than Duncan, you are being biases... Even Odom was more skilled... They could shoot jumpers better, they were better ball handlers, better passers... But Duncan was better overall... By FAR... talent is different from greatness... Haven't u ever heard scouts and analysts say a player has the talent to be great? Murray is more talented at the same age... Parker was just better... So in other words, Murray has a higher ceiling
Tonys little crossover on the fast break(which was often), involved a carry and was rarely called. They didn’t start calling it until later in his career. I’m not sure how anyone would miss that, if they were watching the games.
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