He might not have Parker's speed but he's still very ing fast. Not many folks have had Tony's speed, tbh. He was one of the fastest players ever. Besides, why are you limiting physical tools to just speed? Just because it is the one physical attribute that Parker has over Murray?
And lol at the thought of Murray not having any skill.if he doesn't have skill then what is left for a guy like Danny Green?
Many folks seem to forget what a young Tony was. He was kinda like a young Murray. A kid with potential but extremely raw. Or do you forget that he couldn't shoot for ? That on fastbreaks he would mindlessly take on three defenders all by himself and, inevitably, turn the ball over? That he had tunel vision? It's easy now, after all that Parker has done, to laugh at the idea of comparing Murray to Tony. But I don't forget all the flaws that a young Tony had, tbh.
You tool. Gary Payton was begging for help in the 2004 playoffs. I read an article back then where the Lakers had a team meeting and Payton was asking for help to guard TP, he said he couldn't guard him. They had to change their strategy as they had no-one that could stop him. They ended up letting him shoot jumpers. Murray would look 10 times worse if he was put into that series instead of TP.
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We don't even have to talk about Tony having a rough playoff series in 2004, 13 years ago... a long time.
Dijon is getting shut down in regular games right now. I hope he bounces back from this and not hit a "rookie wall" his sop re season when he's getting real minutes.
Lakers packed the paint bc of Parker. They dared him to shoot. But the pack the paint strategy tells you how impactful Parker was. They actually had to have a major game plan to stop his dribble penetration. Once Parker could hit the midrange, he became almost unguardable. Sadly, he couldn’t hit threes in his prime.
It was also a playoff series where Tony Parker was dominating against 4 hall of famers after the first two games of the series, after which they had to change their entire strategy to stop him. Also, one of the greatest defensive PGs of all-time was getting into arguments with teammates about not being able to guard and stop him one on one. Spurs still could/should have should have won that series.
This is ridiculous that people are comparing Murray in start of the season regular season games to a young TP in the playoffs. A young TP destroys Murray any day of the week.
Parker didn’t shoot well, but Gary Patton never really shut him down:
2002 series: 17/3 on 50%
2004 series: 17/6 on 38%
If anything Parker shut Payton down: 9/5 on 34%
Just let me know when Murray sweeps Lebron and wins FMVP.
Exactly... That 3 point shot came much later in his career. But his shot overall improved so much my. Couldn't dare him to shoot anymore
It just makes tony that much better than murray tbh. Ive stated this before. If murray was tonys height we wouldnt be in the nba. If tony was murrays height he would have been an all star every year. Murray is a dumb player, like most nba players, who get away with being dumb because a casual fan doesnt know a "right" play, and would settle for a dunk, a three, or a block that goes into the stands over a fundamental play that contributes to a win. See 90 percent of the posters here.He might not have Parker's speed but he's still very ing fast. Not many folks have had Tony's speed, tbh. He was one of the fastest players ever. Besides, why are you limiting physical tools to just speed? Just because it is the one physical attribute that Parker has over Murray?
And lol at the thought of Murray not having any skill.
Many folks seem to forget what a young Tony was. He was kinda like a young Murray. A kid with potential but extremely raw. Or do you forget that he couldn't shoot for ? That on fastbreaks he would mindlessly take on three defenders all by himself and, inevitably, turn the ball over? That he had tunel vision? It's easy now, after all that Parker has done, to laugh at the idea of comparing Murray to Tony. But I don't forget all the flaws that a young Tony had, tbh.
lol son. I would used to scream at my TV at all the dumb a young Tony would do. Same with Manu. Comitting dumb mistakes is just a phase of being young, tbh. Anyway, Murray doesn't seem to commit nearly as half dumb mistakes as young Tony and Manu would. Probably because he doesn't play as much. So I don't know wjere you get this about him being a dumb player.
Parker was All-Rookie (1st) and Sporting News ROY--such a bad rookie season! You have to look past the stats (which were still very decent). Pop knew what he had in Tony. Physical attributes are useless if you can't use them.
I agree with Chinook though that both players are in very different situations. At Murray's age Parker had 5 of pro experience, a ring, and was the 2nd best player on one of the top contenders of that era.
if Duncan was tony's height, he wouldnt be in the NBA...players are who they are, and their hight has a MAJOR effect on their ceiling...the best players ever at every position were on the taller side of their position all across the board...When Murray becomes an All-Star, ill bump this so quickly....
Rookie Parker wasn't all about the numbers...
Everybody was stunned by the way he was handling the situation he was in, (for those who remember the context). Most of hs job was limited to pas the ball to Timmy in the post anyway, so impossible to compare with nowdays Murray.
TP's mental strength was (with his speed) his main asset.
Murray seems a bit less mature emotionally, his potential physically is off the charts (wtf the wingspan!!!), but he has a lot to learn yet.
When Parker came to the league, he was already a pro and playing against men for 3 years already...
now imagine how tony would looks without the stability of Duncan...that is what Murray is going through right now without Kawhi
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