Do I even have to post this:
http://www.kenn.com/sports/basketbal...ttendance.html
If you're implying that the Rockets attendance has increased by 1800+ since the Texans started play, I'd like to remind you that they moved into the larger capacity (16,285 to 18,300) Toyota Center at the beginning of the 2003 season, right when that increase started.
Because people only have so much disposable income.Why would it feel a pinch?
The freakin' football season is over before the all-star game.
You think 2500 people a game wouldn't be a big deal?
2500 people x 41 home games = over the course of a season.
102500 empty seats x (at a minimum) $8 seats = minimum $820,000/yr loss
In all actually, you're talking about on average a $30 ticket in the SBC,
so 102500 x 30 = 3.1 million.
And that's not factoring in concessions, parking, and merchandising.
The real kicker though will be the corporate sponsorship, which is where the Spurs cash in on group ticket sales and luxury boxes
Just because TheWriter has moved on from bridges and southside highways to something that could potentially boot the Spurs out of San Antonio doesn't mean the numbers change.
For perspective, floor seats for the Saints @ $110.
$110 x 8 = $880.
Nosebleed seats for the Spurs this year, season ticket package of 45 games (regular season + exhibition), at the $20 level, comes out to $915.75 (per season ticket information I have in my possession).
So right there, for $30 cheaper, you went from nosebleed seats at the SBC to lower level field level seating at the Alamodome (using this year's prices as a model).
And you think that won't impact things? Keep dreaming.
The gain occured in the 2002-2003 season, the Rocket's arena didn't open until the following season.
Wrong again.
Is it possible that it will adversely affect them? Sure, I don't think we can completely discount that. But I don't think we can make such a strong comparison between the early 90s and now. There are a lot less available tickets now (18,797), and the population has grown. With so many games selling out it's possible that those people that decide to go to NFL games instead of NBA games will be replaced by NBA fans that weren't previously able to get tickets. I also think that if the attendance is going to drop because the team becomes a lottery-type team, it'll drop regardless if there's an NFL franchise in town. I didn't move here until 99 so I may be wrong, but I would think that the fan base is stronger now because of the championships. It's not like we're looking to support two NBA teams.
Carie
All that writing and no point.
The Toyota Center opened October 6th, 2003.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Center
Last game in Compaq was April 16th, 2003.
http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/Turn...-72782-34.html
I stand corrected. I was thinking 2003 was the year the Spurs opened the SBC but it was 2002.The Toyota Center opened October 6th, 2003.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Center
Last game in Compaq was April 16th, 2003.
http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/Turn...-72782-34.html
We won the le our first year and its the 2003 championship so I always think 2003.
Point re-made.
http://www.kenn.com/sports/basketbal...ttendance.html
Should be correct.
All that writing and no point.
All bull and name-calling aside, what about AHF's post do you disagree with?
Where does he get his numbers?
He's using the numbers for an Alamodome crowd that was going through a 'lottery bound" season.
Every NBA team takes an attendance dip when going through a lottery year.
That doesn't prove any point to the fact that you threw out 4,000 less a game at Spurs games if the Saints relocate here.
That's why I said what I did.
WHO GIVES A ABOUT NUMBERS!!!
BRING THEM HERE AND YOU'LL SEE HOW WE WILL PACK THE HOUSE EVERY SUNDAY!!!!!!
AND BY THE WAY, All you HATERS can STAY HOME!!!!!
The point I was trying to make is that the drop in Spurs attendance the next time they are ty/lottery bound with a competing major league franchise in town will drop more significantly than if the NBA was the only game in town. As far as my 4,000 number goes, that was a guess and I stated as much, based on the 2500 drop minus 10% of arena capacity. 4300-4500 seemed a little high for a franchise with the traditional following the Spurs have as opposed to the Hawks, so I chopped some off for loyalty. Sue me.
(If you want to ride my jock over that, I can start throwing N-sync/city planning smack as well.)
Oh, so now sources are important....
A drop in tickets would happen anyway with a lottery bound Spurs team.
It'll happen to every NBA team.
And like any other NBA team, when the team gets better, ticket sales go up.
And you don't think any lukewarm Spurs fan suffering through a lottery-bound season would choose instead to drop their discretionary income on a contending NFL team?
Only to you my friend.
And that was rhetorical, I wasn't being you, all serious about serious or series of numbers or whatever it is you ask for.
Maybe during the NFL season, but like I've said before, the NFL seaosn ends before the All-Star game begins.
Once you account for multiple seasons of lottery basketball and the reaction of season ticket holders to that it's not hard to see the Spurs' attendance dropping markedly.
Add to that a NFL team offering season tickets.
Season overlap doesn't matter. What matters is the fact that most people have limited budgets. Only in crackhead's world is spending on the Spurs going to stay constant if not grow while sellout crowds fill the Alamodome for every Saints game.
The NFL regular season ends right around New Years, or when roughly 35-40% of the NBA season is completed. Which is good for your argument, and good for our hypothetical lottery-bound Spurs in this situation.
Are you dense or just selectively so?
And according to you and your survey crew, San Antonio is 99.8 percent all poor people, huh?
Oh, my stalker gave me a nickname. I think I'm going to tear up.Only in crackhead's world
With a lottery bound Surs team, of course ticket sales will drop. But sorry, I'm not cynical enough to say it'll be a super duper drop.is spending on the Spurs going to stay constant if not grow while sellout crowds fill the Alamodome for every Saints game.
I don't know. Are you gay or do you just love following me around?
Are you dense or just selectively so?
The male version of Single White Female seems to be playing out on SpursTalk.com
That's in a city with a metro population of 8+ million.
Is Buddy Holly/TheWriter capable of intelligently discussing any topic? Apparently not.
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