That’s also an underrated aspect of playing for Pop. The system will always get the credit and players playing well are devalued. Heck Kiwi was just a roleplayer and perceived as not being as good as other stars just bc he played for Pop and his system. It took him time, more than a season even to get credibility as a legit superstar.can you imagine kerr having to give big minutes to kyle anderson, dejounte murray, patty mills, danny green, etc...?
Many other coaches have put up good teams without HOF talent just based on competing hard every game. Carlisle does it almost every season (now they are tanking) but he’s put up teams out there with little talent with a lot of roster changes, that play well enough to win a decent number of games and being capable of upsetting any team on any given night. Pop meantime needs guys to learn the system for at least a full year b4 they can shine. Like they don’t know how to play basketball b4 Pop gets them.
Stevens is another one who had put together a very scrappy Boston team that didn’t have much talent until recently and no superstar until this season.
This notion Spurs players are trash is exclusively Spurs centric. Why would any superstar want to play here? They better do right by Kiwi and make things right. He’s the perfect Spur.
I like Stevens but he hasn't accomplished in the playoffs...all he's done is get good RS records out of teams by maximizing their talent....which sounds familiar. Pop has been a massive got this season for sure but acting like Stevens is some coaching God is asinine. And lmao at Carlisle, dude still living off the rep Dirk got him I see
Brad Stevens and Quin Synder are hungry. Pop has been fed and is stuffed.Brad Stevens would take on look at this roster and laugh his ass off
it's easy to say that when he has the most stacked team in nba history. its easy to overcome a ty/cancerous culture when the talent on the floor is so lopsided. its why the lakers were still winning with shaq and kobe publicly calling each other out.
kerr was a massive upgrade to mark jackson (didn't run anything resembling a system, didn't have the team commit to defense, didn't realize draymond green was actually an asset), but he's not in pop's stratosphere yet imho.
Defensively, they went from 27th to 14th to 4th in Jackson's 3 seasons. Of course, getting Bogut was the biggest reason, but guess what? Curry transforming into the most impactful offensive player in the league and them stumbling into Green (Kerr admittedly had him penciled in as a backup combo forward for 10-15 mpg before Lee's injury paved the way for him to start at PF) were the biggest reasons for their offense becoming the best in the league.
I agree with Harlem, but Kerr's ego has gotten gargantuan the past few seasons and his shtick is played out (desperate to come off as innovative and likeable). Pop had the big 3 run huddles at various points, but of course Kerr will get the credit for this, with no backlash because his buddies in the media always have an excuse at the ready for him.
Hey don't forget when you play for pop, your minutes will go down and your stats will AUTOMATICALLY suffer!
Pop moves to GM, Fizdale(however you spell his name) as head coach.. Or Becky
yeah and then where did their defense go from 14th after Kerr took over? of course you spin it to me being a racist
Defensively, they went from 27th to 14th to 4th in Jackson's 3 seasons. Of course, getting Bogut was the biggest reason, but guess what? Curry transforming into the most impactful offensive player in the league and them stumbling into Green (Kerr admittedly had him penciled in as a backup combo forward for 10-15 mpg before Lee's injury paved the way for him to start at PF) were the biggest reasons for their offense becoming the best in the league.
I agree with Harlem, but Kerr's ego has gotten gargantuan the past few seasons and his shtick is played out (desperate to come off as innovative and likeable). Pop had the big 3 run huddles at various points, but of course Kerr will get the credit for this, with no backlash because his buddies in the media always have an excuse at the ready for him.... but their improvement from jackson to kerr is undeniable
No. Pop needs to be done period. As llong as he's in the FO, the whole culture, resting, no blacks, rookies sit, will never go away.
yeah and then where did their defense go from 14th after Kerr took over? of course you spin it to me being a racist
I give Kerr some credit for initially improving their flow on offense, but post Durant, he doesn't deserve an ounce of credit.
From an X's an O's perspective, coaching is overrated post '15 because the league mostly plays a uniform style on both sides of the ball. It's funny, every time a team with a white coach adopts this style and their team supposedly overachieves, they're made out to be geniuses. When a team with a "black" coach does it, the players get the credit.
yep, i misread the post. stopped at 14th tbh. and i agree that any credit post-durant is dumb
I give Kerr some credit for initially improving their flow on offense, but post Durant, he doesn't deserve an ounce of credit.
From an X's an O's perspective, coaching is overrated post '15 because the league mostly plays a uniform style on both sides of the ball. It's funny, every time a team with a white coach adopts this style and their team supposedly overachieves, they're made out to be geniuses. When a team with a "black" coach does it, the players get the credit.
their play improved leaps and bounds between jackson and kerr, though. i dont know that you can write that off as coincidence
I give Kerr some credit for initially improving their flow on offense.
cool. therefore im a racist not giving the black coach credit.
LMAOOOOO crater face just gave a 30 second speech to the media and walked off. Teflon Poop at it again
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