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Find it odd that two stars bigger then Kawhi wanted or were interested in committing long term..yet Kawhi rumored to bolt to become a “bigger star”
Tbh I don’t buy it...but whatever
https://clipperholics.com/2018/04/03/kawhi-leonard-los-angeles-clippers-real-possibility/
Kawhi Leonard to the Los Angeles Clippers is a real possibility
by Ryan Snellings
Clipper owner Steve Ballmer seems to like the idea.
Find it odd that two stars bigger then Kawhi wanted or were interested in committing long term..yet Kawhi rumored to bolt to become a “bigger star”
Tbh I don’t buy it...but whatever
We’re there is smoke there is fire and the house is burning. Glad to see teams are starting to get into the hunt the more teams the better deal the Spurs can get.
All this crazy started after his uncle took over I wonder if he is related to Ball?
Yes please.
Paul George always said he was LA bound... he actually tried to dissuade other teams in trading for him to pressure Indiana to take whatever LA was offering... I can't recall the details well, but it was clear he said LA...
Kyrie most likely wanted out of the situation he was in no matter what and wanted to go to a good team, since he wants to have both his own team and win outside of Lebron's shadow... he wasn't about to welcome being sent to the Magic for example... he wanted a good organization. He's happy now where he is and I think he is in the Celtics future... both those I don't consider realistic.
Walker is more realistic...
You saying PG does a sign & trade?
At teams will inquire being "news" (as if it wasn't obvious or means it's any more likely to happen). I know the media loves to sensationalize, but it's also clear they're enjoying every bit of this.
I don't think the Spurs "showing really well" without Leonard bodes well for their overall attractiveness. Unfortunately, I think it reinforces this misguided notion that they can plug and play "anyone in that system", which is exactly what most superstars and stars don't want: Someone else receiving equal or greater credit to them.
I also think, again unfortunately, this whole fiasco, particularly if it ends in Leonard's requesting a trade, will reinforce the perception that they don't know how to appeal to or deal with "African-American" superstars or stars.
Whatever interest Irving and maybe George had, was more than likely contingent on Leonard's being here.
I like the Clippers trade right now they own the 12th and 13th pick
I don't think the Spurs "showing really well" without Leonard bodes well for their overall attractiveness. Unfortunately, I think it reinforces this misguided notion that they can plug and play "anyone in that system", which is exactly what most superstars and stars don't want: Someone else receiving equal or greater credit to them.
I also think, again unfortunately, this whole fiasco, particularly if it ends in Leonard's requesting a trade, will reinforce the perception that they don't know how to appeal to or deal with "African-American" superstars or stars.
Whatever interest Irving and maybe George had, was more than likely contingent on Leonard's being here.
Winning sells more than anything...
You gotta put yourself out there..I’d buy the marketing narrative but I’m sorry Kawhi doesn’t have it..and I haven’t seen anything to show me otherwise.
Plus he’d be feeding off the “Laker Brand” and building his “Own Brand”
I do think those stars wanted to play with Kawhi. However, I also think they'd want to play with each other and Gay. It's not the same pitch as last year, but Kemba, PG and LMA all fit really well together and can win a le with the right role-players while avoiding the superteam stigma. It's a pretty sweet gig.
Also, Kawhi probably wouldn't want to leave because of market.
I think he would, yes. No one in their right mind should think LAL is a better basketball choice. If playing with Russ is persuasive to him, I can't imagine what playing SA with Pop would be. People think the situation with LMA hurts the team's chances. But I think it's the opposite. The team has long since been viewed as completely at Pop's whim. To see him willingly concede to Aldridge and for both to be better for it implies he's okay with guys speaking out and working with him to build the offense.
The point I was trying to make was not that Kyrie makes sense. It's that the Spurs are attractive enough to other players. They've signed coveted free agents three years in a row in addition to multiple players putting them on their trade wish-list. I don't think PG is any less inclined to give them a chance, especially if they complete a Walker trade before/during the draft and already have him on board for recruiting. Walker, Aldridge, Green and Gay are a pretty good tandem for the process, and if Murray survives on the roster at that time, he'd also be excellent. I don't think PG without Kemba (or another youngish All-Star PG) could happen, but with that squared away, yes.
Am I in dreamland thinking we can get Simmons or Porzingis and a first round pick?
Not if you mean Jon and one of KP's family members.
Sadly, I didn't.
What the you Smoking? Give me some of that . !!
A podcast where McCollum talks about wine, books, and seems cultured? A new trade target has entered.
Me? Just sleep deprivation waiting for the game to start.
There's only a few players you can trade Kawhil for straight up:
LBJ (age is a factor, but he's still the premier player right now and has 2-3 strong years in him minimum), Harden, Westbrook, Durbeta, Brow, Steph Curry and Greek.
There is another tier of guys who you'd take with a decent 1st rounder, which are generally younger guys with a few all-stars under their belts or proven on the way up. Guys like KAT, or Lillard, Butler, PG13 and Wall
There are the guys with lots of talent but might be unproven, a little older or injury prone that you need to package with a decent player or so and/or a pick or so: Embids, Oladipos, Porzingis, Gay Thompson/Donkey, Blake, ETC.
Then you have heavy upside guys (or are 1 side players), older guys that are on big contracts but not as hot as they were and other 4th tier players/youngsters that will be the centerpieces of big packages: Ben Simmons, Jabari Parkers, Zach Levines, CJ McCollums, Goberts and so on...
IF we have to trade Pussy McQuad, I don't want to see anything lower than the second pool unless the offer from a third or fourth tier is a stupid no-brainer.
Kawhi for Anthony Davis straight-up. That’s the only trade I want. Davis/Boggie is pretty redundant but Boggie/Kawhi could make serious damage that Pel FO might consider. LMA/Gay/Davis/Green/Murray will be sick.
There has been a rumor that if the blazer pair splits up CJ is the one likely headed out... While I like CJ I'd hate to see a Kiwi/Lillard show in Portland.
Trade Kawhil for Lillard. LMA would love that.
Josh Jackson, Chriss, 2 first round picks (this years #1 pick), and a second rounder.
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