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    It's already here in Illinois.


    Absolutely. It's pathetic.

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    I hope you didn't procreate.
    Another tangent from the forum's biggest coward.

    Won't talk about the London murder rate after the handgun ban and won't acknowledge the source of the recent violence.

    You can't hide behind misleading headlines and talking points here. We're not all susceptible to news-for-idiots.

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    In the gun control thread we were "crazy" for thinking people wanted to ban all guns. Apparently "nobody wanted that". We were "crazy" for bringing up alcohol, swimming pools, cell phones, etc. Now that they face the long run stupidity of their decision making they continue to defend it. Of course it tracks right along with everything everything we have been saying. We aren't too far off from people in the UK being required to wear a body cam.

    "No excuses: there is never a reason to not wear a body cam. Anyone who doesn't will be caught, and they will feel the full force of the law."

    Idiots: Oh wow. I wish we could be that free.

    See, when you're too scared or stupid to debate the types of policies being discussed in reality, you default to an extreme that's easier for you to argue against. You can't handle discussions of gun restrictions, exceptions, registries, etc., so your mind goes to its safe space where everyone who opposes unrestricted access to guns is secretly plotting to take all of your guns in the end. It's the same reason you guys are so susceptible to fake news. It makes you feel better. Toughen up.

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    In the gun control thread we were "crazy" for thinking people wanted to ban all guns.
    I think you have to be fairly loony, flat out ignorant or extremely paranoid to think that, especially in the US.

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    It's already here in Illinois.


    The site where that came from certainly looks like your cup of tea, tbh...

    http://www.renegadetribune.com/

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    "Eventually, they'll want to take all of our guns."
    "IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING." (Posts article about an assault-style weapons ban.)

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    Plus, Assault Weapons bans are not necessarily illegal... see: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...207-story.html

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    So most of the London stabbings this year are a result of gang violence?

    Still seems preferable to a bunch of stray bullets. Nice of you guys to be concerned about the gangs' need to protect themselves though.
    Really, you're going to split hairs and speculate over being shot vs being stabbed and, because it supports your position, choose being stabbed to death? Have you ever been shot or stabbed? Explain how one seems preferable over the other, be specific.

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    Plus, Assault Weapons bans are not necessarily illegal... see: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...207-story.html
    Illegal and uncons utional are completely different concepts. Laws can be passed for a number of reasons that violate your rights.

    It would be very difficult to confiscate weapons you don't know exist.

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    Really, you're going to split hairs and speculate over being shot vs being stabbed and, because it supports your position, choose being stabbed to death? Have you ever been shot or stabbed? Explain how one seems preferable over the other, be specific.
    The preference is specifically spelled out in the post you quoted, and it has nothing to do with me being shot or stabbed.

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    Really, you're going to split hairs and speculate over being shot vs being stabbed and, because it supports your position, choose being stabbed to death? Have you ever been shot or stabbed? Explain how one seems preferable over the other, be specific.
    Well for one, you’re a lot less likely to miss and kill the six year old kid next door with a knife.

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    Good to see the NRA crowd has taken up the Arm London's Gangs Now position.

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    So what's the point of this thread? Is this just another "slipper slope" nonsense argument? We can't take AR-15 assault rifles off the streets because the next thing you know we'll be living in a state of tyranny? So convincing...

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    I think you have to be fairly loony, flat out ignorant or extremely paranoid to think that, especially in the US.
    Slow process my friend. You guys have such a short term perspective on everything.

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    Slow process my friend. You guys have such a short term perspective on everything.
    I thought it was our plan all along. Wouldn't that be our long term perspective?

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    I thought it was our plan all along. Wouldn't that be our long term perspective?
    It's obviously not everyones plan but that is indeed the long term plan. Some people just get caught up in the moment with their feelings. The problem is their feelings will keep triggering and they'll be protesting for knifes and body cams in the future.

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    It's obviously not everyones plan but that is indeed the long term plan. Some people just get caught up in the moment with their feelings. The problem is their feelings will keep triggering and they'll be protesting for knifes and body cams in the future.
    So is it a plan or a slippery slope? Whose plan is it?

    And what body cams are you talking about? The ones on law enforcement? What's the argument against those?

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    I thought it was our plan all along. Wouldn't that be our long term perspective?
    Slow process. Like on day one of Obama’s presidency when he was DEFINITELY going to “ take all our guns away ” and then eight years later it never happened.....just trust the process. Obama is DEFINITELY still going to take their guns away eventually.

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    So what's the point of this thread? Is this just another "slipper slope" nonsense argument? We can't take AR-15 assault rifles off the streets because the next thing you know we'll be living in a state of tyranny? So convincing...
    It's not such a leap when you consider the logic to ban the AR-15 is so weak and can be applied to numerous things. Furthermore, many are becoming self hating American's that look to countries banning knifes and locking up owners of nazi dogs as the blueprint to what our country should be.

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    It simply comes down to exchanging your freedom for a false sense of security. Today's America is much more gullible though willing to exchange freedom just to virtue signal compassion for dead kids.

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    So is it a plan or a slippery slope? Whose plan is it?

    And what body cams are you talking about? The ones on law enforcement? What's the argument against those?
    It's a plan that plays on the emotions of the masses. That's why they are using children to push their agenda.

    No, I'm not talking about law enforcement. I'm talking about the next step for those pursuing safety at all costs.

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    Illegal and uncons utional are completely different concepts. Laws can be passed for a number of reasons that violate your rights.

    It would be very difficult to confiscate weapons you don't know exist.
    It did reach the SCOTUS, the highest Cons utional overseer we have, who didn't deem it worth their time.

    In those cases, the law is indeed considered Cons utional, at least until the SCOTUS decides to review this topic again through a different case, etc.

    There's also the er precedent, where the SCOTUS clearly established that the right to bear arms is unlimited and guns and gun ownership can be regulated and will continue to be.

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    It simply comes down to exchanging your freedom for a false sense of security. Today's America is much more gullible though willing to exchange freedom just to virtue signal compassion for dead kids.
    They pushed the agenda for alcohol in the past as well. Of course it came with the "think about the children" propaganda posters. I agree it's worse now though. That's because they want government to be daddy.

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    It simply comes down to exchanging your freedom for a false sense of security. Today's America is much more gullible though willing to exchange freedom just to virtue signal compassion for dead kids.
    You seem to mistake any compassion as virtue signaling. Maybe the more logical explanation is that you’re just a selfish piece of .

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    They pushed the agenda for alcohol in the past as well. Of course it came with the "think about the children" propaganda posters. I agree it's worse now though. That's because they want government to be daddy.
    like you gots don’t pull that with immigration. “Keep Muslims and Mexicans out to keep our children safe ” get the outta here with that hypocritical ass bull .

    Ban abortions to protect the babies but as soon as one pops out of the womb and gets hit with a stray bullet then THOSE KIDS I’M KEEPIN MUH GUNS!

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