i actually agree. I think Cousins would be a King but for the super max.
I told you that the Spurs were thinking of trading Kawhi back before the trade deadline. I also stated that Boston was the team the Spurs considered trading him to. They had the go ahead, but decided not to.
Not sure who was offered. The Spurs would have traded him IMO if the Boston offer would have blown them away, but it obviously didn't.
I thought Manu was already at least 46...
I'm sure there will be some desperate team that gives it to a second tier star but if it's given to a Kawhi, Durbeta, or Davis I'm not seeing how it's not better than the alternative, tbh.
The comment above was that Pop wouldn't go in with supermax right away. If Pop doesn't have that as an option, then the point in the OP is moot.
Because it's really hard to build a team with the DPE and a normal budget. Washington is dying right now because of Wall's deal, and it hasn't even kicked in yet. OKC is going to start hemorrhaging salary soon too because of Westbrook. The Rockets are seriously entertaining letting Capela walk because of Harden's max. The list goes on and on. That extra $40-something is the difference between SA being a consistent tax team and staying in the black, and I am not even counting guys like Pau and Mills being on the team. I have no doubt NO will cave on the supermax, but I also don't doubt that they'll struggle to really improve after that contract kicks in. Eventually it's too much.
I never saw salary as a way to buy championships. I've always seen is as a way to sell tickets. You can find a lot of examples of high salary teams that don't do well in the compe ive arena but sell a lot of tickets because they have "stars". It might be a player's goal to win championships, but the franchise has to make a profit. Sometimes those go hand in hand, but sometimes they don't (look at Dallas, for example).
The actual point of this break is to counteract the SAEN report that suggested SA is entering negotiations from a position of weakness. Like they were going in willing to give Kawhi ('s team) whatever contract he wanted, and it was going to be up to him to forgive PATFO enough to take it. Woj is saying more than PATFO are looking for Kawhi to come with concessions before they're willing to offer the DPE, and those concessions may not able to be given out until the summer of 2019. I do think Woj has this mostly right in that Kawhi isn't going to be able to bully PATFO into doing everything he wants, but at the same time, they will ultimately be willing to offer the supermax if Leonard says the right things. I'm hoping for a bit more nuance to all this, as I've said. Finding a creative way to work Leonard's deal to allow for the team to add/retain a third star seems like the best solution for everyone.
Along those lines how long can the Dubs last? They've got a Supermax in Curry, a regular Max (or close to it) in Durant? It sounds like they may lose Klay and Draymond eventually because of the Curry deal. But eventually will be at least 2 more years, I think. Draymond has said he wants the Supermax if he qualifies. Klay said he'd take less but then his dad told him to re-think that. How long can the Warriors hold it together with a Supermax and a max. Because we'll have that too potentially with Kawhi and LMA.
Remember when it was pre-Drob and every player’s name ends with -son? Nope it wasn’t fun. Please FO don’t mess this thing up
KD is on his own. He could get his money anywhere he goes. He probably still feels a bit like he doesn't really belong there but he's good with the trophies. You cannot expect a b2b RS MVP to take less than the supermax. Steph is still the centerpiece, I think, in GS. Kevin is a big fat question mark. He could decide to go anywhere else on a whim. He probably won't. Klay is just happy to be there. He'll take a pay cut to stay around the winning and the cameras. Draymond is the same way. Without the others pulling the offensive load, Draymond is on some team just being a mouth and losing games.
Could they convince him to opt-in on his last year of his current deal, and then start the SuperMax extension? That would give them 2 years, rather than 1, where Kawhi is relatively cheap, to get onboard that third star? Is that a likely scenario with Kawhi's group?
Klay’s father recently said his son isn’t taking a paycut, and Draymond just ranted that his last paycut is why they got Durant and he will turn down an upcoming extension so he will be eligible for a bigger deal. The euphoria stage is over for this superteam. Already saw Steph take the max and Iggy get greedy and force the Warriors hands. Klay/Green will follow suit.
LMA will not be eligible for the DPE. It's only available to a player's originally drafting team, unless, like Harden, they are traded on their rookie contract.
I've been saying that GS will fall apart by next summer, and by that, I mean not all of the four players will be there, since last summer. I think in maybe 2-3 years, it will be Durant and Curry, and they'll both be on the high side of 30 by then. People are inevitablly surprised when things fall apart, but nothing lasts forever. It was a freakish combination of cir stances that led to their roster being able to be constructed the way it is.
Thanks.Agree on Dubs ticking clock. 2 years max.
Yeah, I knew how the DPE works. Thanks. When I said max for LMA, I meant the regular non-DPE max.
As an example of how onerous these contracts can be, here are the projections that ESPN's Bobby Marks did a while ago with regards to the Warriors. I believe the key assumption made for the projection was that they keep the 4 core players intact, but not sure what other assumptions they made. But the numbers are pretty ridiculous:
2017-18: Luxury Tax of $42.8M for a total of $181.4M
2018-19: Luxury Tax of $90.4M for a total of $244.5M
2019-20: Luxury Tax of $198.6M for a total of $373.0M
2020-21: Luxury Tax of $222.7M for a total of $400.6M
LeBron, just come for a couple of seasons, and piss in their punch, causing their owner to bust it up when they don't win.
I have no doubt the Spurs would have given him the Supermax if they were sure he was going to be healthy for the long run. He just won't by the looks of it.
His camp conveniently leaked another "closer to 100%" story before the sit down with Pop. Really nobody is buying that bull anymore; he has to prove it on court first.
I'd definitely try to sell that if I secure a deal for Lebron or even Kemba Walker. It's not so much avoiding those guys and their salaries, but not being hurt by the one-year e in LMA's salary the year after next.
http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?...dd466748788473
Posted before, but it's a basic mock-up of what SA could be looking at if they trade most of their team for Lebron and Thompson, get Kawhi to delay the DPE and waive LMA's final year. It even allows for Murray to become an impact player (and getting that associated salary bump), which means SA could remain financially stable while still having a "Big Three" for years to come.
Kemba is a great target and much more realistic than LeBron coming.
Better not be a long way from offering him the supermax. Dude is our last shot at relevance for the next 5-10 years.
Not trying to be sexist or anything and I respect Rachel's journalistic integrity but that should keep the Spurs out her mouth tbh
Thanks. If I understand the scenario in your link, the Spurs waive LMA's last year. (I guess they have a team option? I thought it was a player option). So your model would be 2 more years of LMA, then kick him to the curb and hope Murray has emerged as the third part of a Big 3 with Kawhi and LeBron.
I would suspect that LMA's game will age well, but even shedding him, 2 years of LeBron's late prime would be worth it, especially if we assume (big assumption here) that DJ has become an All-Star level player.
Not sure if thats even possible ... Too many what if's ....
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