Our mistake was believing Kawhi Leonard was Tim Duncan

[DPG21920]

What makes you think Pop wasn't always like this before 2014?

Doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Everyone seems to be dealing with this news with the aid of his own confirmation bias. I can only judge the actual actions or nonactions of Kawhi as weak sauce.

Also why can’t you both care about improving and winning along with other stuff. They aren’t mutually exclusive.

[Pavlov]

Also why can’t you both care about improving and winning along with other stuff. They aren’t mutually exclusive.

Wasn't one of the rumors that Kawhi thought Pop was working the players too hard in practices?

[DPG21920]

Wasn't one of the rumors that Kawhi thought Pop was working the players too hard in practices?

Yup.

Pop is not just talking about basketball when asked. Must mean he has NO desire to coach or win!!!

[ducks]

Yup.

Pop is not just talking about basketball when asked. Must mean he has NO desire to coach or win!!!

Is not basketball his job
Those other topics he can call in or go on
I am sure they would love him to

[DPG21920]

Is not basketball his job
Those other topics he can call in or go on
I am sure they would love him to

Do you have a job? Do you only talk about your job 24 hours a day?

[K...]

Also it looks pretty bad to say it's pops fault considering his wife died after a lengthy illness. Maybe those aloof comments are a more about his personal life

[ducks]

Do you have a job? Do you only talk about your job 24 hours a day?

I do not doing a basketball game when I am coaching what the primary results were at the time like Pop did.
I do not hold a spurs press conference just to blast the president especially since pop hates the press. He called it just to blast the president. even if he called it to praise him I would think it is wrong. Politics have no place in sports. Outside he can give money or march or do whatever it is fine. (just like football players)

[ducks]

Also it looks pretty bad to say it's pops fault considering his wife died after a lengthy illness. Maybe those aloof comments are a more about his personal life

If he can not handle it resign. That is the right think to do. He took 2 games off wow. Proud of him for doing that when she was sick but he should have took the rest of the year off.
EGO EGO EGO. RC would have let him

[Pavlov]

Yup.

Pop is not just talking about basketball when asked. Must mean he has NO desire to coach or win!!!

Kawhi became the second or third best player in the league under Pop and made the WCF the last year he actually played at that level, so what was so sorely lacking for him?

If he doesn't like Pop or his teammates personally, so be it. If he wants to leave for more potential money or a more attractive location, so be it. If he thinks Pop and the team are holding him back by trashing Trump and making him work hard in practice, so be it. The fact none of us actually knows the reason is why I'm calling Kawhi pathetic. Just speak up for once.

[Pavlov]

I do not doing a basketball game when I am coaching what the primary results were at the time like Pop did.
I do not hold a spurs press conference just to blast the president especially since pop hates the press. He called it just to blast the president. even if he called it to praise him I would think it is wrong. Politics have no place in sports. Outside he can give money or march or do whatever it is fine. (just like football players)

You post in the political forum from work all the time.

[DPG21920]

Kawhi became the second or third best player in the league under Pop and made the WCF the last year he actually played at that level, so what was so sorely lacking for him?

If he doesn't like Pop or his teammates personally, so be it. If he wants to leave for more potential money or a more attractive location, so be it. If he thinks Pop and the team are holding him back by trashing Trump and making him work hard in practice, so be it. The fact none of us actually knows the reason is why I'm calling Kawhi pathetic. Just speak up for once.

And I’ve seen a lot of people with the wait and see approach before blaming Kawhi and that is reasonable. I personally though put the blame on him even if he stays and does great for SA for years to come.

Ultimatley it’s his life and whether he’s pulling the stings or letting someone else do that for him, it’s on him.

[keithington1]

I fell in love with Kawhi. This feels like a break up. If he's not gonna talk we have to move on.

[ducks]

You post in the political forum from work all the time.

I am working on 3 computers right now
installing 7 on a computer 10 on a computer
running virus scans
during the winter I do not have as much time to post here because of more computers
I can mul ask unlike you!

[DMC]

It wasn't OUR mistake. It was POP's mistake.

He thought Kawhi would feel like Tim about Spurs...Tim always felt Pop as a father, a friend, and the Spurs are his family. That wasn't Kawhi's case.

Kawhi only wanted to become one of the best player in the world, he didn't want a new family.

If you watch videos of his few interviews, he always said he only wants to get better and help the team to win. If you hear him, unlike the Big3 talking about the Spurs as a family, Kawhi never said that.

Some people aren't willing to accept that Pop made a mistake but he already did it. He never read well Kawhi's situation and now the Spurs lost a top-5 player.

I said years ago that Kawhi works on Kawhi, he does not do team stuff. When he's practicing he's practicing his shot his moves and his dribbling. That's why when he's working with the team during the game you can tell that he's the odd person out because he's either going ISO or he has to dump off after a double team. There's not a lot of ball movement through him.

Of course the felchers here will say that he's a leader and that is what they said. He's no leader. He does not want to be a leader. Not everyone wants to be the face of the franchise. Everyone wants to get paid though.

[Pavlov]

And I’ve seen a lot of people with the wait and see approach before blaming Kawhi and that is reasonable. I personally though put the blame on him even if he stays and does great for SA for years to come.

Ultimatley it’s his life and whether he’s pulling the stings or letting someone else do that for him, it’s on him.

Exactly. What the Spurs want is obvious and public. The only thing for them is whether to pay the supermax or less-- and even that question has been exacerbated by Kawhi's not being clear about anything.

Since it's all rumors and hearsay, I can hold out the dim hope this is some stupid negotiating tactic to get the supermax. If he really wants out, he should just say so himself and let the Spurs get to work on that. Pretty simple.

[Pavlov]

I am working on 3 computers right now
installing 7 on a computer 10 on a computer
running virus scans
during the winter I do not have as much time to post here because of more computers
I can mul ask unlike you!

Thanks for admitting you talk about politics while you're supposed to be working.

[DPG21920]

Thanks for admitting you talk about politics while you're supposed to be working.

Ducks doesn’t care about his job and should be fired.

[cutewizard]

I said years ago that Kawhi works on Kawhi, he does not do team stuff. When he's practicing he's practicing his shot his moves and his dribbling. That's why when he's working with the team during the game you can tell that he's the odd person out because he's either going ISO or he has to dump off after a double team. There's not a lot of ball movement through him.

Of course the felchers here will say that he's a leader and that is what they said. He's no leader. He does not want to be a leader. Not everyone wants to be the face of the franchise. Everyone wants to get paid though.

[cutewizard]

1. Lebron

2 Durant

3. Davis

4. Curry

Objectively speaking, Kawhi not even in the Top 4 really.........

Correct me if Im wrong......

[RD2191]

1. Lebron

2 Durant

3. Davis

4. Curry

Objectively speaking, Kawhi not even in the Top 4 really.........

Correct me if Im wrong......

You're wrong.

[Pavlov]

1. Lebron

2 Durant

3. Davis

4. Curry

Objectively speaking, Kawhi not even in the Top 4 really.........

Correct me if Im wrong......

Well yeah, because they're actually players who played.

[cutewizard]

You're wrong.

Share your ranking pls......

[MannyIsGod]

To the OG posters, was Spurstalk around when Timmy almost went to Orlando? What was the reaction then?

That was before Spurstalk but it might have been when some of us were on one of two other forums. Honestly, I don't remember talking about it much on the internet.

[ducks]

Thanks for admitting you talk about politics while you're supposed to be working.

I am working I am allowed to surf the internet when I am not fixing a computer or heling a walk in

[ducks]

Ducks doesn’t care about his job and should be fired.

been with the same company since 2000