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    2018 trade deadline: lottery picks, young talent

    2018 predraft: lottery pick, a young talent

    2018 post lebron decision: no lottery picks, middling talent



    what a enormous up by PATFO tbh. lebron now leaving a seat with Kiwi's name on it for 2019 and by doing so driving off all other suitors and lowering the price to his new team. well done

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    Correct. The worst time to do a deal is now when someone is banking on a false sense of urgency to get your best asset at a heavily discounted price. Urgency on the Lakers' part is not the same on the Spurs' part. Especially when what they are supposedly missing out on is dog .
    Still feel like the worst time to trade Leonard was before James signing with the Lakers?

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    what do you mean? you can't expect all the teams to line up and give up all their assets when they can just wait one year for kawhi's contract to expire.

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    Still feel like the worst time to trade Leonard was before James signing with the Lakers?
    Yes. What great return was missed out on?

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    Yes. What great return was missed out on?
    ..................crickets..............

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    The Spurs did not want to trade Leonard. That is the bottom line to it. There were good trade packages available had the spurs been more aggressive in wanting to trade him. Phil traded their number 10 draft pick to Phoenix so they could have worked out a package with Phil and even Cleveland should have been desperate to keep James so a deal with them for the 8th pick and a player was still better than what the spurs are going to end up. Even the Clipper deal is better than what they are going to get back later.
    Somehow Spurs PATFO felt it was salvageable.

    Otherwise they would have been taking calls and shipping him over elsewhere before he even spoke.

    Anyway, Lebron isn't getting any younger and he's not going to waste a year waiting for Kawhi to sign. I see LA giving away first round picks in the trade.

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    I say deal with any team to get young talent and picks. I say Phoenix and Josh Jackson

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    Yes. What great return was missed out on?
    Go back and reread the thread. I explain it there.

    The Spurs are not going to get anywhere near the value any more they would have gotten on draft night had they really wanted to make a trade on draft night.

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    Yes. What great return was missed out on?
    A trade with Phil for the 10th pick and players.

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    I say deal with any team to get young talent and picks. I say Phoenix and Josh Jackson
    The best case scenario now is for the Spurs to get a 3rd team involved like Phoenix. Phoenix gets Ball.

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    Link?

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    Look it up yourself. Phil was ready to make a trade for Leonard. Phil traded the 10th pick to Phoenix had the Spurs been more aggressive in trying to make a trade they could have gotten that 10th pick and players from Phil on draft night. The Spurs sat on their hands on draft night because they really did not want to make a trade.

    This Spurs front office has a history of not making trades or adverse to making trades.

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    So just speculation.

    Best available deal was two late lotto picks and Tobias Harris.

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    Look it up yourself. Phil was ready to make a trade for Leonard. Phil traded the 10th pick to Phoenix had the Spurs been more aggressive in trying to make a trade they could have gotten that 10th pick and players from Phil on draft night. The Spurs sat on their hands on draft night because they really did not want to make a trade.

    This Spurs front office has a history of not making trades or adverse to making trades.
    They traded for a rookie and future first. It's possible they valued that more than the rental of disgruntled kawhi. Philly had been all over the place in what they'd offer, but the trade with Phoenix was a slam dunk. A trade for Kawhi is more risky for them.

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    They traded for a rookie and future first. It's possible they valued that more than the rental of disgruntled kawhi. Philly had been all over the place in what they'd offer, but the trade with Phoenix was a slam dunk. A trade for Kawhi is more risky for them.
    No trading away Bridges was a bad move. Many of the Phil fans are pissed off at it.

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    Look it up yourself. Phil was ready to make a trade for Leonard. Phil traded the 10th pick to Phoenix had the Spurs been more aggressive in trying to make a trade they could have gotten that 10th pick and players from Phil on draft night. The Spurs sat on their hands on draft night because they really did not want to make a trade.

    This Spurs front office has a history of not making trades or adverse to making trades.
    No link Huh?

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    No trading away Bridges was a bad move. Many of the Phil fans are pissed off at it.
    Mainly because he was a local kid. that pick is what the main value is fwiw,

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    Meh. His holdout, injury, bullsh!t, drove his value down from the start of this mess. His highest value was at the start of the '17-'18 season. His camp has turned him into a cancer ever since and the Spurs were never going to get anything close to equal value. All the Spurs could really do was try to mend the relationship. I've been a Spurs fan all my life and I've never seen a player try to screw the team like this. Gold medal to Kawhi. Silver to Dennis Rodman. Distant bronze perhaps to Derek Anderson...although the Spurs were smart not to bow to his contract demands back in the day and he was just looking to get paid and was open about it all.

    I've been a huge Kawhi fan. It's really sad the way this has all unfolded.

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    Meh. His holdout, injury, bullsh!t, drove his value down from the start of this mess. His highest value was at the start of the '17-'18 season. His camp has turned him into a cancer ever since and the Spurs were never going to get anything close to equal value. All the Spurs could really do was try to mend the relationship. I've been a Spurs fan all my life and I've never seen a player try to screw the team like this. Gold medal to Kawhi. Silver to Dennis Rodman. Distant bronze perhaps to Derek Anderson...although the Spurs were smart not to bow to his contract demands back in the day and he was just looking to get paid and was open about it all.

    I've been a huge Kawhi fan. It's really sad the way this has all unfolded.
    I've been a huge Spurs fan. I'm sure you were/still are too. This whole business just reminds everyone not to become player fans. Root for your team, not players and their entourages.

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    turned down kyrie kiwi swap at deadline

    turned down 2 lottery picks and tobias harris


    but at least PATFO got a 1-20 protected lottery pick along with DeChoker


    twitter roasting this trade tbh


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    kyrie didn't finish the season

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    turned down kyrie kiwi swap at deadline

    turned down 2 lottery picks and tobias harris


    but at least PATFO got a 1-20 protected lottery pick along with DeChoker


    twitter roasting this trade tbh

    Still think the Spurs could have gotten the 10th pick in a package for Kawhi and then draft Mikal Bridges. Draft day was the time to move Leonard. The Clippers deal could have landed Miles Bridges and Porter which is better than the deal with Toronto.

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