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    Theyll be closer to a .400 to .450 win team.
    that's quite possible. they are a couple of missed free throws away from 1-3 and they could have easily lost to the wolves too.

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    Thanks Timvp for your grades! SAS didn't have "appropriate fear" for the Pacers. The Pacers had their backs to the wall after back-to-back losses, so they came ready to play with ball movement, playing small ball & agressive defense & a gameplan to single out Double D 10 to limit his scoring ability. Spurs in the meantime, just returned from the west coast feeling "high" off that OT win against LBJ23 & the Lakers. There was no energy; no ball movemet, & the defense was "UnSpursy." Now if SAS would have played better & had DC33 in the lineup, just maybe this game would have been more competative, but it's only speculation. Watch film; stress strengths, weaknesses & what needs improvement; move on & prepare for the Lakers who will want revenge, so bring your "A-Game" Spurs on Saturday night & execute. GSG!!!

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    Theyll be closer to a .400 to .450 win team.
    To attain that level both White and Walker would have to blossom into near-stars on their respective returns - especially White since he returns much sooner.

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    The Wizards just gave away a big in that trade. They weren't going to draft Allen. That's the kind of hindsight that isn't helpful. Yes, the Spurs could end up giving away a pick that's a really good player. They've done so in the past with guys like Dragic and Lee. That's not something to worry about. The Spurs made a win-now trade with DeRozan. They lost their chance at winning once Murray went down. But they still have one or two more years with their current core, and the goal is likely going to be to compete as much as possible with those guys signed. That means they'll need to clean up their roster and boost their rotation. The goal would be to get a guy into your team with a year to adjust so that when Murray comes back, the team is that much stronger.

    I'm certainly am not talking about giving up an unprotected first for Avery Bradley or something. But the Toronto pick to turn Gasol into Carroll and Dinwiddie? Could make a really big difference next year when the team would be able to use their full MLE to attack their weaknesses rather than splitting it up again.


    Carrol and Dinwiddie could be retained using bird rights and allowing PATFO full use of the $9 million MLE.

    Forbes, DDR, Gay, Carrol and Aldridge is a much better SL than current, with size and versatility. Carrol, Forbes, and Gay should provide enough spacing for LMA and DDR to work while also being better defensively.

    Not as familiar with Dinwiddies game but turning Gasol and a late first into two serviceable wing players is pretty good.

    If Forbes keeps up his shooting, and stays a starter, he'll have a realistic shot at most improved. Him plus our first could allow for the Spurs to move up in the draft and take a good wing prospect.

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    I agree on the grades, however when a team starts spring 9/13 on threes that makes it very difficult to find any kind of defensive rhythm.
    Anyway it was indeed a very bad game.
    Mills continues to suck and it's now near 2017 Tony Parker's level. Worrying.
    Unfortunately, Manu can't play until he's 45 just so Paddy can look like a competent NBA player. Pop should be humiliated with the Paddy and Pau contracts. I feel humiliated just watching them.

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    Marco hasn't played a lick of defense his entire career. It's almost theatrical that he would be the one explain what when wrong defensively.

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    Marco hasn't played a lick of defense his entire career. It's almost theatrical that he would be the one explain what when wrong defensively.
    I really feel like Pop is just trolling spurstalk right now.

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    Thanks for the review Timvp. I thought you were honest. I hope the coaching staff rethinks minutes and rotations. As you said they need to bench Patty if he’s sucking, just like anyone else on the roster would get out of the game if they are being awful. I get the injuries but call a Gleague player at this point. Paddy was worse than a Gleague prospect.
    play defense get minutes is not spurs mantra anymore

    its all about being favorite son or vet, u will get minutes even if you suck monkey for the night.... as for patty, he be on bench waving that stain towel every spurs possession just to show pop his still active, put him back in the game...

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    They did. One busted his ACL, another tore a ligament in his heel, and the last has a broken foot.

    They also lost two of the best perimeter defenders in the league thanks to ing Uncle Dennis.
    Murray & White aren't wings. Huestis was just a dumb signing, it's telling that he couldn't get real minutes when Roberson went down for OKC.

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    Patty Mills is awful. At one point I watched about 5 sequences in a row by the Pacers where they were making switches on offense with their ball movement until (*insert name here) was fronted by Patty with 5 or so seconds on the shot clock in a position to take him off the dribble or pull up for a jumper. And yeah, the Pacers scored on every one of those plays. It was like their offense revolved around moving the ball until Mills was isolated from help and then it was an automatic bucket.


    Get him off the court!! The WhiteWalker can't get healthy soon enough. Our defense stinks.

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    How would anyone suggest they get rid of Patty. Big contract and poor performance isn't something that other teams are looking for.

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    Both Gasol and Mills were complete trash tonight.
    That pretty much sums up every night...! lol

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    That pretty much sums up every night...! lol

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    Patty Mills is awful. At one point I watched about 5 sequences in a row by the Pacers where they were making switches on offense with their ball movement until (*insert name here) was fronted by Patty with 5 or so seconds on the shot clock in a position to take him off the dribble or pull up for a jumper. And yeah, the Pacers scored on every one of those plays. It was like their offense revolved around moving the ball until Mills was isolated from help and then it was an automatic bucket.


    Get him off the court!! The WhiteWalker can't get healthy soon enough. Our defense stinks.
    I mean if you was the opposing team's coach, that's what you would want to do wouldn't you? Just cause Pop doesn't see it, doesn't mean everybody else don't. We obviously see it, so you can be sure opponents do too

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    I mean if you was the opposing team's coach, that's what you would want to do wouldn't you? Just cause Pop doesn't see it, doesn't mean everybody else don't. We obviously see it, so you can be sure opponents do too
    sure that Pop also sees, but for him basketball is no longer so important, he will live and die with his convictions regardless of anything

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    sure that Pop also sees, but for him basketball is no longer so important, he will live and die with his convictions regardless of anything
    I guess you are right. I just wonder how it makes sense to play a -30 point net negative when you are not trying to tank

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