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    My god the west is a bloodbath. 13th place is a game under .500. 45-21 against the east (but the Spurs are 0-3 so there’s that).

    But there is only one elite team, and they’re showing signs of fracturing.

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    “We” are spurs fans, you are a kawhi cuck

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    Lol. Make trades for the sake of making trades. You are a genius! So what realistic trades wins us a championship? ... won't wait, there are not any. You go around shopping you risk losing your reputation as a vet and player friendly organization as well as half the season ticket holders who like going to the playoffs. Only realistic trades is to ultimately rebuild and risk missing the playoffs numerous times with no guarantee of even being a 50 win team.
    Where has the Rep as a player friendly organization gotten us? No free agents ever sign here... You make trades to modernize to the current NBA, we put ourselves in a position to win... Every team makes trades... But they still get more big named free agents going there for other reasons... None will ever come to SA unless we have the potential to be a championship contender... As it stands right now we would be lucky to win one playoff round... What else option is there? Stand pat? What's YOUR solution? Develop 34 year old LMA?

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    Lol. Make trades for the sake of making trades. You are a genius! So what realistic trades wins us a championship? ... won't wait, there are not any. You go around shopping you risk losing your reputation as a vet and player friendly organization as well as half the season ticket holders who like going to the playoffs. Only realistic trades is to ultimately rebuild and risk missing the playoffs numerous times with no guarantee of even being a 50 win team.
    This is a very dumb post... The ticket holders don't just want to make the playoffs to be bounced first round... I'm sure u see the dwindling numbers and energy... They want to win! We won't win with this team, we won't be able to draft high enough being bounced in first round... The only options are to trade or tank... And I prefer trading because tanking means we still have LMA who is a cancer to the team, and isn't a very good player

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    Who gives a which way we root for? What's going to happen is going to happen regardless, might as well cheer the team on and not be a miserable . And if we have a ty record and have to make trades or have a high draft pick, great. If we make the playoffs as a lower seed and are a first round exit, well guess what you ing all year about how the team should tank didn't make a single difference. Oh well.
    Ur literally agreeing with me, but trying to act like ur not... Lmfao

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    the Nets have a roster with more talent than ours, and Sean Marks nor picks had when he started his work, why would I want to see the tank? just have a competent front office and you can put a good and compe ive team on the court
    A competent front office makes trades... Like I'm asking for... I don't want to tank... I've said that numerous times... So once again u are agreeing with me, but wording it as if u aren't... It's ok to agree with me u know... Smh

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    Never thought I would see a Spurs fanbase be so divided after 20+ years of playoffs and winning culture. I think those who wants to see the team lose should maybe take a break and wait until the team actually goes full tank mode. I personally am so close of joining the tank movement. This year tanking is so compe ive with nearly 1/3 of the teams fighting for a chance to hit the lottery jackpot AKA RJ Barrett or Zion Willamson.

    I am a now a huge Zion fan and I really think he is going to be a generational talent. Would love to have him on the Spurs.

    With that being said, if the team wants to get a chance to get a top draft pick, they need to tank ASAP. The tank teams already got a head start.

    If the spurs can tank maybe just one year and get Zion Williamson, I think that will be enough to build around Zion and DeRozan and Murray.
    Trading LMA might be the best move right now. The big question is who on earth will take a 33 year old guy who is struggling to shoot. My guess would be Charlotte Hornets. They seem like they might make the playoffs in the east and Michael Jordan might want LMA.


    Murray
    DeRozan
    Zion Willamons

    those are good pieces.
    I would trade LMA for a decent young role player... Someone like OG

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    Lol. Make trades for the sake of making trades. You are a genius! So what realistic trades wins us a championship? ... won't wait, there are not any. You go around shopping you risk losing your reputation as a vet and player friendly organization as well as half the season ticket holders who like going to the playoffs. Only realistic trades is to ultimately rebuild and risk missing the playoffs numerous times with no guarantee of even being a 50 win team.
    Lebron is coming and so is Durbeta

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    Why bother to wake up? You aren't going to find a cure for cancer or likely do anything very significant. Meaning it's pretty ridiculous to not root for your team because after 20 years of being 'the most winning in all team sports' we are no longer that dominant. Winning 5 out of 20 championships against 30 other teams is the anomaly, not being middle of the road.

    It's fun to watch games and this season is more fun than last season because Kawhi is no longer here collecting paychecks and offering no support to his teammates.
    So because we won in the past, we shouldn't want to win in the future? Interesting...

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    Yep. Basically I don't know how to be a fan of a team and NOT root for it.
    U clearly only read the le and didn't read my actual post

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    What we root for doesn't affect the outcome. Why go to a team fan website if you're not rooting for the team? You could get a 1st overall pick for 5 straight seasons and still miss the playoffs.

    Spurs fans who came along after 1998 =
    What u are saying is that u are fine with being mediocre and not making moves to get better? Ok that's ur perspective... I want to get better

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    It is only November and the Spurs are still only 2.5 games out of first in the West, despite all of their issues.

    I don't care if the Big 3 are gone. I don't care if Aldridge and Demar have antiquated games. I don't care if the Warriors are still overwhelming favorites.

    Laying down right now would be a complete move. And rooting for it is also a complete move tbh.
    Did u read my post? I want trades... I don't want to tank...

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    This is a very dumb post... The ticket holders don't just want to make the playoffs to be bounced first round... I'm sure u see the dwindling numbers and energy... They want to win! We won't win with this team, we won't be able to draft high enough being bounced in first round... The only options are to trade or tank... And I prefer trading because tanking means we still have LMA who is a cancer to the team, and isn't a very good player
    What other small market team has done better at signing free agents? We signed Gay, Aldridge, Gasol, Boris, and resigned many others (Robinson, Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, etc) Making the playoffs is a lot more fun than repeated lotteries and seeing the inevitable busts and young players resign with the Lakers once they are developed.

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    team hasn't been healthy all season and had to change line ups and rotations constantly. And we still beat the top teams
    Who are the top teams we beat? And we sound like magic fans who beat us in the past when we were good... Bad teams beat good teams... It happens... That doesn't mean we should get delusional and think we are close to competing for a championship

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    So because we won in the past, we shouldn't want to win in the future? Interesting...
    So a smaller market team should take the Philly route? No thanks.

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    Get on op. From someone who cheered his ass off at the game and watched his undermanned team win a game they weren’t supposed to win against overwhelming odds. Keep sucking Kawhis .
    What was the overwhelming odds? A November game VS a struggling warriors team without Steph and dray? GTFOH

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    What other small market team has done better at signing free agents? We signed Gay, Aldridge, Gasol, Boris, and resigned many others (Robinson, Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, etc) Making the playoffs is a lot more fun than repeated lotteries and seeing the inevitable busts and young players resign with the Lakers once they are developed.
    We sign players past prime... They NEVER come here at the height of their prime... And the only reason those players even came was because they wanted to win a ring... A star player won't just come to SA because of the night life and weather

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    So a smaller market team should take the Philly route? No thanks.
    Point out where I want to tank... Did u even read the post I made? I want trades... I most definitely don't want to tank... I said tanking and making trades are our only options be we aren't the Lakers... Players aren't coming because they like the city...

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    Point out where I want to tank... Did u even read the post I made? I want trades... I most definitely don't want to tank... I said tanking and making trades are our only options be we aren't the Lakers... Players aren't coming because they like the city...
    Trust me. No trades that make us better this year. You haven't brought up any realistic scenarios.

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    We sign players past prime... They NEVER come here at the height of their prime... And the only reason those players even came was because they wanted to win a ring... A star player won't just come to SA because of the night life and weather
    They never came at the height of their prime because there was already an established legendary big 3 then Kawhitter and no room for another top dog. All spurs needed was role players and precisely past their prime "over themselves" vets who wouldn't whine about their touches and know their place..

    And guess what, they won more than most other teams that way and if not for Zaza and Uncle, the'd still have a top 3 NBA player and probalby be top 2 in the west right now.

    And keeping your best players is already a talent. PG13 asked for a trade in Indy, Irving asked for a trade in Cleveland, Melo asked for a trade in Denver, Minny traded Garnett and Love, NO and Clippers lost CP3, Portland lost Aldridge, Shaq asked for a trade in LA, Phoenix traded Stoudemire, Sacto traded Cousins to NO who lost him...
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    Ur literally agreeing with me, but trying to act like ur not... Lmfao
    I agree that we’re probably not very good but I just have a different mindset as a fan imo I don’t hope we tank but idc if we do either.

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    I agree that we’re probably not very good but I just have a different mindset as a fan imo I don’t hope we tank but idc if we do either.
    That's my point of view also... I don't want to tank

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    They never came at the height of their prime because there was already an established legendary big 3 then Kawhitter and no room for another top dog. All spurs needed was role players and precisely past their prime "over themselves" vets who wouldn't whine about their touches and know their place..

    And guess what, they won more than most other teams that way and if not for Zaza and Uncle, the'd still have a top 3 NBA player and probalby be top 2 in the west right now.

    And keeping your best players is already a talent. PG13 asked for a trade in Indy, Irving asked for a trade in Cleveland, Melo asked for a trade in Denver, Minny traded Garnett and Love, NO and Clippers lost CP3, Portland lost Aldridge, Shaq asked for a trade in LA, Phoenix traded Stoudemire, Sacto traded Cousins to NO who lost him...
    When in history have free agents ever come here that were superstars in their prime? Never... Our methods have to be trades or tanking... And I'm against tanking

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    The era of the "generational" franchise player talent that changes your team is over. We're past the Magic Lakers vs Jordan Bulls NBA. And spurs contibuted to that with their unselfish, team game.

    Now to win you need to a whole coherent roster with 3 stars + 2-3 top bench players with the right mentality, which is damn hard to find and built, which is why some poeple don't seem to understand PATFO's credit. Lebron had to play the GM and collude with Bosh and D-Wade to win a ship, then bring Love and other players in Cleveland (and thank Draymond).

    As other said, you could get 3 top picks and still suck for a decade. NO got what you'd call a "unicorn" in Davis and 6 years later, they have 2 PO (13 games total) a one second round appearances, for 5 total wins...

    5 total PO wins in six years of Davis who has put pressure on his team, mentioning playing somewhere else. 5 PO wins in 6 years, Yoowhoo !! Let's tank for the savior.

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    When in history have free agents ever come here that were superstars in their prime? Never... Our methods have to be trades or tanking... And I'm against tanking
    Did you read my post ? and who do you want to trade for ? Davis for Gasol + Patty and fillers... No ? Ok, let me add 2 second rounders... Kawhi screw everything forcing spurs to reconsider what they built for the past 5 years.
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