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    Every ing team in the NBA has "young/promising talent".
    So what do you think tanking is gonna do? Get you another Tim Duncan?

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    So what do you think tanking is gonna do? Get you another Tim Duncan?
    Way to make a jump there buddy. But you're content with mediocrity and/or you're delusional thinking this team is actually any good so this is who I'm dealing with.

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    Way to make a jump there buddy. But you're content with mediocrity and/or you're delusional thinking this team is actually any good so this is who I'm dealing with.
    Seriously, you want the team to tank, i'm curious what your expectations are?

    I'm spoiled, I hate how last year went. I hate that Murray got hurt and it screwed up what should have been a bounce back year. But yea, if I'm going to watch/support a mostly healthy team, I'd much rather watch compe ive basketball than watch them purposely lose games.

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    Seriously, you want the team to tank, i'm curious what your expectations are?

    I'm spoiled, I hate how last year went. I hate that Murray got hurt and it screwed up what should have been a bounce back year. But yea, if I'm going to watch/support a mostly healthy team, I'd much rather watch compe ive basketball than watch them purposely lose games.
    We have two different philosophies but obviously we both want the team to succeed; we just look at it differently. I want them to draft someone that's a game changer and covers the team's needs because I don't care how much cap space this team has in 2025 seeing as this team hamstrings themselves by handing out contracts to existing players like they're going out of style... and let's be real, SA is not a free agent hotspot.

    And like I said earlier, either draft someone that's a game changer OR trade their picks to move further up OR make a trade and dangle the pick by actually having an actual asset for once that a team would want for a player (or players) the Spurs could get. I said actual assets and not make believe assets.

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    We have two different philosophies but obviously we both want the team to succeed; we just look at it differently. I want them to draft someone that's a game changer and covers the team's needs because I don't care how much cap space this team has in 2025 seeing as this team hamstrings themselves by handing out contracts to existing players like they're going out of style... and let's be real, SA is not a free agent hotspot.

    And like I said earlier, either draft someone that's a game changer OR trade their picks to move further up OR make a trade and dangle the pick by actually having an actual asset for once that a team would want for a player (or players) the Spurs could get. I said actual assets and not make believe assets.
    Totally fair. But does tanking guarantee that they'll land that game changer?

    If not, might as well go out and compete. If nothing else, build up some guys trade value and see what happens. & yea, trading their picks could definitely come in handy depending on how the chips fall come draft time.

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    Because there is zero chance of winning a championship given the talent level of the team. Tanking ensures us a lottery pick so we can be more compe ive in the future.
    Ask the Philly fans about their 5 years of to not even be in the LoB conversation. They have no better chance to ring than we do, although they'll likely go further in the playoffs in the lEastern Conference.

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    All I'm saying is that the PATFO fluffers are the ones to quickly dismiss tanking by saying that tanking doesn't guarantee . To me it proves they talk out of one side of their mouths showing how little faith they have in PATFO.
    It's not about PATFO, it's about who's available. Three years after Tim Duncan, our 'prize' would have been Michael Olowokandi. Finished products just aren't available in the draft any more, and frankly, a lot of top 10 picks think they ARE ready.

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    It still doesn't change the fact that the team went 1-2, whether they were blown out by 40 or lost by a bunch of buzzer beaters. "Almost" victories aren't anywhere on the standings last time I checked.
    Your last point is correct, but going 1-2 over the last three where the win was comforable, one loss was pretty close and on the road against a very good team, and the other was given to the opponent by a bad no-call is far different than losing the two by 40 and scraping by in the win. While both cases count the same in the standings, they paint very different predictive pictures. Deciding whether or not to tank involves looking into the future, not the past.

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    Team should have been tanking after Murray went down. Lol @ people wanting another playoff sweep and a mediocre first round pick to follow.
    Only pussies give up.

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    Only pussies give up.
    Not giving up. Just what’s the point of another first round exit when this team can get a higher draft pick. But no, we can keep pretending that guys like Dante Cunningham is gonna be enough to make a run.

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    It would take more legit injuries before the wink wink ones happen. Due to West having no legit tanking team, the west is going to be tight. I wouldn't be suprised there are a lot of 40 to 45 win teams making the playoffs. It's not like the days when there were 10 very good West teams with 10 bad East teams to beat up. East teams are upsetting West teams this year. Thunder were like 0-5 and now the top 4 teams in the first 20 games. We don't know where the injury bug will strike and who. We don't know we going to remain healthy from now on and Lebron goes down for 5 games. The west is so tight any team could bomb out with a bad injury month.
    I agree with all your posts in this thread. In this time of all or nothing, the best or the worst, now or never, is good to read measured observations.


    Youngsters can't see the obvious: If tanking is that good, why isn't into it any no-contender team? I don't see more than a handful of them tanking. Maybe front offices are considering the number of teams that tanked during the past seasons and how many of these teams actually improved?? Nah, they are just stupid, they don't have the experience, the knowledge, and the data needed to make good decisions. They better listen to us, despised and misunderstood basketball minds, waiting in this forum to be discovered by the world.

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