White rash

[DaBears]

White will get playin time, for 2 reasons, 1 is he plays Defense, arguably already one of the teams best off the ball defenders the SPURS have, and he is a good help defender. 2nd he is a good decision maker ( still makes rookie & 2nd yr player mistakes, but you live with those ) on the floor and puts players in their natural positions.
DW on the floor puts DMAR in natural position & When Forbes in a more comfortable position not having to be a primary ball handler..

[J_Paco]

How was that a stupid take? His offense was terrible up until recently..his 3-point shooting was in the 20s and his offensive RPM was around -2..

The fact that he's recently improved doesn't change what was happening at the time of my post, I know that's a difficult concept for some of you it's literally a fact that the Spurs' offense was worse when he was on the floor..

It was only a quarter of the way through the season and he is clearly still adjusting to the NBA game speed. Yes, his advanced numbers were poor but he's shown in limited time last year that he has a solid offensive repertoire (pull-up, catch - and - shot, driving, etc.) and game.

His heel injury was a setback right at the beginning of the season that definitely stunted where he was at. It took Spencer Dinwiddie - a guy with a similar physical profile and background -two or three whole seasons to adjust (plus leaving the Pistons), but were supposed believe that time and patience weren't needed with White?

No, but let's just jump the gun after 20 - 25 games and assume White, Aldridge and Poetl were going to suck all season just cause the NBA "genius" Harlem says so. LOL

[R. DeMurre]

White's looking better every week. Definitely is a keeper, whether he's starting or not.
The defense of a Murray/White backcourt is going to be something nice to see!

[Spurs Homer]

White trash.

White and Forbes should not be on the floor at the end of any meaningful game. White shrinks under the big lights and Forbes is a liability on defense.

Longtimespursfan?


no

Longtime got-op

[kaji157]

He has very good size for his position at 6-4, i don´t know why some call him midget, league average for point guards is 6-2.

Also seems like a capable offensive player, it´s clear that he is not very fast but still has the tools to be effective.

Manu said many times that players that are not "as fast or as athletic" as the NBA media, could take up to a year to get used to the speed and size of the NBA, White barely played last year and he is already a better player than Mills and Forbes.

If DeJounte Murray is as improved as some here said, White would be the perfect candidate to be the second´s unit facilitator ala Manu, as he is very suited for it, and also could come in hady to be played alongside DJ when two point guards are needed together.

[r0drig0lac]

He has very good size for his position at 6-4, i don´t know why some call him midget, league average for point guards is 6-2.

Also seems like a capable offensive player, it´s clear that he is not very fast but still has the tools to be effective.

Manu said many times that players that are not "as fast or as athletic" as the NBA media, could take up to a year to get used to the speed and size of the NBA, White barely played last year and he is already a better player than Mills and Forbes.

If DeJounte Murray is as improved as some here said, White would be the perfect candidate to be the second´s unit facilitator ala Manu, as he is very suited for it, and also could come in hady to be played alongside DJ when two point guards are needed together.

that's exactly what's going to happen imo

[Seventyniner]

Close the net - hurry! We caught all the bad takes.

[spurraider21]

Apparently not many are too familiar with the game. If anyone noticed, White was due for some progression to the mean with his shooting. Within his first 45 attempts from 3 he had MANY " good misses".

What do I mean by good misses? If you've played the game and were ever a good shooter -- you know I'm referring to back irons & in and outs. Derrick had A LOT of these.

Not only this, but early on Pop had him on a very short leash -- which made him play too careful to not make mistakes and took away his aggression. Combine that with the fact that he had just came back from an injury to where he was off his feet for a month -- which can derail a few degrees of a players confidence.

After watching him closely for over a year, and considering the aspects I just outlined, I knew it was just a matter of time for him to come around with his shooting & confident aggression. Hes a very talented and very smart player on both ends. The best guard we have outside of DeRozan on the active roster.

i like white a lot tbh, but...

"good misses"... that's just some non-verifiable you can say about any player you like who is struggling

[HarlemHeat37]

It was only a quarter of the way through the season and he is clearly still adjusting to the NBA game speed. Yes, his advanced numbers were poor but he's shown in limited time last year that he has a solid offensive repertoire (pull-up, catch - and - shot, driving, etc.) and game.

His heel injury was a setback right at the beginning of the season that definitely stunted where he was at. It took Spencer Dinwiddie - a guy with a similar physical profile and background -two or three whole seasons to adjust (plus leaving the Pistons), but were supposed believe that time and patience weren't needed with White?

No, but let's just jump the gun after 20 - 25 games and assume White, Aldridge and Poetl were going to suck all season just cause the NBA "genius" Harlem says so. LOL

I never said any of that, you're just making up now

And I never projected anything about White's future, I clearly said "right now" in my post that you cited..also, it's funny that you're assuming I projected White's future based on a 25-game sample size, yet you're praising his offense based on like 10 important minutes he played last season + the recent 2 games or so where he played well on offense

[MaNu4Tres]

i like white a lot tbh, but...

"good misses"... that's just some non-verifiable you can say about any player you like who is struggling

I watch every game. Its one thing I've noticed with him a lot.

And yes, there is such thing as a good miss. Only people that have played the game and have been good shooters will understand it.

[spurraider21]

I watch every game. Its one thing I've noticed with him a lot.

And yes, there is such thing as a good miss. Only people that have played the game and have been good shooters will understand it.

such a snob. we all know what those are. but you cant pretend to quantify them for NBA players.

[MaNu4Tres]

such a snob. we all know what those are. but you cant pretend to quantify them for NBA players.

Don't be offended if I clap back. And Im not pretending or making up just because.

[J_Paco]

I never said any of that, you're just making up now

And I never projected anything about White's future, I clearly said "right now" in my post that you cited..also, it's funny that you're assuming I projected White's future based on a 25-game sample size, yet you're praising his offense based on like 10 important minutes he played last season + the recent 2 games or so where he played well on offense

"Right now," being 20 - 25 games into the season. Like I said, projecting that he's "unable to score" after 20 - 25 games was silly.

He, like Poetl, needed to regain his confidence and the game needed to slow down for him. Now, he's making shots and playing with confidence but you never like to admit when you're wrong on here.

Also, he played extremely well during the Summer League too. And it is clear he wasn't going to be a "negative" on offense for long, but I forgot I was debating with the wise, knowing all, NBA genius of SpursTalk.

Anyway, I'm happy he's kicking ass and playing much, much better basketball.

[spurraider21]

Don't be offended if I clap back. And Im not prentending or making up just because.

its a toothless claim that you can make for just about any player struggling from the field

[MaNu4Tres]

its a toothless claim that you can make for just about any player struggling from the field

Not really. I actually have been paying close attention this season. Outside of that, you must have missed everything else I posted in the post you quoted.

Maybe you were just trying your best to sift out any negative in my post?

Small sample & a lot of back irons/in and outs. Variance is a part of shooting -- ask Marco & Patty except Marco threw up a lot of bad misses the first 30 games this year.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

It was a nice mid December early January run but well this team needs Murray back as starting PG

[GreekSpursfan]

It was a nice mid December early January run but well this team needs Murray back as starting PG

They are both offensive liabilities

[jjktkk]

White is definitely struggling. Wonder if it's a confidence thing, or maybe his plantar fasciitis is bothering him.

[Slippy]

Its both the rookie wall and the plantar but if you ask derrick he's fine.

Playoffs I expect him to turn it up a level but it will be short lived since spurs should exit early

[Hoops Czar]

White is definitely struggling. Wonder if it's a confidence thing, or maybe his plantar fasciitis is bothering him.

Or maybe he hit a rookie wall.

Edit: I meant to post that in blue font.

[duncan2150]

That’s just normal. Aldridge at the beginning of the season or derozan for weeks in 2019 had the same kind of struggle.

One thing white will not lose is his defense and that’s always valuable for our team. Now he needs to regain his confidence on offense.

[SpurPadre]

Or maybe he hit a rookie wall.

Edit: I meant to post that in blue font.

The league has clearly adjusted to White and it's up to him to step up.

[SpurPadre]

That’s just normal. Aldridge at the beginning of the season or derozan for weeks in 2019 had the same kind of struggle.

One thing white will not lose is his defense and that’s always valuable for our team. Now he needs to regain his confidence on offense.

LMA nor DDR had 0-10 games. Not the same kind of struggle.

[duncan2150]

They are better players and with way more experience. It’s just that every player have some struggle in a season.

[r0drig0lac]

The league has clearly adjusted to White and it's up to him to step up.

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