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Please do not compare Phoenix to San Antonio.
Speaking in economics, there's no contest.
Lets now make that 15 pages.
Please do not compare Phoenix to San Antonio.
Speaking in economics, there's no contest.
I don't know if it's realistic or not. But at least let us be excited that they're looking into it. Come on, if you had your choice which sport would you pick?
Oh, now San Antonio is just as great of a market as Phoenix? The hits just keep on coming.
Again MB totally avoids the point and question just to throw another diss at the city.
His agenda is clear. Has been for a long time.
I haven't avoided anything. You make these vague assertions that SA is on par with Phoenix and then back away whenever someone bothers to call you out on it.
Phoenix has double the number of TV households as SA, per Nielsen. If you have a problem with their methodology, set up a firm and compete with them because obviously they are doing somethng wrong.
He's not dissing the city, THeWriter.
He's stating reality.
Pure and simple.
Look, TheWriter, I love your passion for San Antonio.
I've lived here for 11 years and I love it here.
But just because San Antonio is what, 9th, 8th, population wise, does not mean we are on par financially with the other major cities.
It took a monumental effort to get the SBC Center built, for a very cheap $200 million.
I never said SA was on par with Phoenix. I love how you put words into my mouth.
You said a city would need to be a DFW or Houston in order to have a NBA, NFL, and MLB team. I asked, was Phoenix a DFW or Houston when it got its three pro teams? , it isn't a DFW now.
That's good to know. Oh wait, I've always known that.Phoenix has double the number of TV households as SA, per Nielsen.
Ok, San Antonio isn't a Phoenix either.
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And it didn't take Phoenix a monumental "I'm leaving for San Antonio (ironically enough) if you don't approve a new stadium" effort to get the Cardinals a new stadium?It took a monumental effort to get the SBC Center built, for a very cheap $200 million.
Last edited by TheWriter; 10-28-2005 at 12:50 AM.
Per 2000 Census:
Phoenix
San AntonioThe median income for a household in the city was $41,207, and the median income for a family was $46,467
The per capita income for the city was $19,833.
Phoenix isn't impressing me too much.The median income for a household in the city is $36,214, and the median income for a family is $41,331.
The per capita income for the city is $17,487.
Okay, TheWriter, but that's per capita or per family. Now multiply the $2,000+ difference by Phoenix's population and tell me how much more money is circulating within their economy than SA's.
And tell me if that is enough to build a new stadium, for anything, including taxes, parking, concession, etc.
So Phoenix's MSA has a greater per capita income, median family income, median household income and, oh yeah, has double the # of TV households.
Yeah, no difference.
Those numbers are for county not MSA.
MSA numbers for both cities are higher.
The city isn't paying for the venues.
Don't be so sure. Obviously the developer is trying to get something out of the county.
How expensive is it to live in Phoenix as compared to SA? If it's more expensive then the difference is going to be quite a bit less.
But that still doesn't take TV markets and many other factors into account...
The point stands. Phoenix has the type of market that can support all of those teams.
I never said there was a difference.
Again, where the do you get your impressions from? Your interpretations of what I say are always wrong.
I said I wasn’t impressed seeing how you’ve put Phoenix at some kind of bar one much reach in order to have the big three.
More TV sets, we got it.
They are?
Is that why the Holly Hills CEO said on KSAT during an interview, they would seek no public money from anyone.
I guess so.
Last edited by TheWriter; 10-28-2005 at 01:07 AM.
More TV sets, we got it.
No number of emoticons can hide the foolishness of your argument.
Right. They're just talking with local officials for the of it.
Sounds like they aren't asking for any public money for the IRL track.
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