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    Gawd, I can't wait to get a job, so I can take time from the stupid extra-curricular clubs that look good on resumes and start doing some good like, Habitat for Humanity.
    I hear USAA is going to get into that, so I am hoping my interview with them panned out.
    Hope you get it.

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    Well, we completely disagree on Bush,
    but I thank you for the compliments. Helping the poor is a passion I've had since childhood.
    However I don't see Bush as a help in that quest or a "real" follower of Jesus. But thank you very much.


    you see, this is the question I pose to you, as I have asked myself.

    what about the poor in Iraq?

    do you not believe that they will be better off and have a brighter future

    with Saddam Hussien removed from power?

    do you value American life over Iraqi life?

    I value all life. and I agree with the fact that people that do evil deeds should face judgement.

    IF it comes to light that Bush led our Country to War for many more Evil Reasons than for Good ones? I won't fear the truth. IF this war was motivated by 100% Oil, Military, Corporate Greed, then I will mourn, but not for long...as, the Iraqi people will still be FREE!

    Does the END justify the MEANS?

    Everyone will have their own opinion.

    If the Iraqi children have a brighter future, a chance at a real life?

    I know what my opinion will be.


    would you pick Saddam over Bush?

    who would you rather live under the authority of?

    Thanks in advance, man.

    Anyone else, please give your answer to that question as well if you so choose. Thanks!

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    it's not too late for you Duffman.

    why don't you LOVE YOURSELF!!!

    what is your pain?

    who mind ed you?

    forgive them. forgive yourself.
    I love you too man.
    Now put the gun down and wake the up brother.

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    you see, this is the question I pose to you, as I have asked myself.

    what about the poor in Iraq?

    do you not believe that they will be better off and have a brighter future

    with Saddam Hussien removed from power? No, not really.

    do you value American life over Iraqi life?

    I value all life. and I agree with the fact that people that do evil deeds should face judgement. Have you seen the Iraqi casualties? Didn't Abu Graib smack of meet the old boss, same as the old boss?

    IF it comes to light that Bush led our Country to War for many more Evil Reasons than for Good ones? I won't fear the truth. IF this war was motivated by 100% Oil, Military, Corporate Greed, then I will mourn, but not for long...as, the Iraqi people will still be FREE!Curious sort of freedom.

    Does the END justify the MEANS?

    Everyone will have their own opinion.Indeed.

    If the Iraqi children have a brighter future, a chance at a real life?

    I know what my opinion will be.


    would you pick Saddam over Bush?

    who would you rather live under the authority of? Neither, how about Kerry?

    Thanks in advance, man. No problem bro.

    Anyone else, please give your answer to that question as well if you so choose. Thanks!

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    kerry has no spine. no wonder you like him, you didn't take a stand and answer the question posed...you are just like Kerry.

    but Godbless you bro.

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    Bush has no brain Is that why you like him? We would be better off with Kerry in the White House.

    I am blessed thank you very much, cleansed by the blood of the Lamb.

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    25,000 Iraqis have died in the last 2 years, that's a lot more than saddam ever killed, ( so no I dont think they'll be better off)

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    http://search.csmonitor.com/2005/1026/p07s01-woiq.html


    What the US death toll in Iraq reveals

    A new poll shows that 53 percent of Americans say the war wasn't worth it.

    By Dan Murphy | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

    BAGHDAD – Sometime in the coming days, the United States military will probably report the 2,000th American military death of the Iraq war.
    While in some ways an arbitrary milestone, the tragic figure only tells part of the story when it comes to the human costs and human successes - both foreign and local - of the war.


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    Perhaps the most striking statistic from this war, compared with any other conflict in US history, shows troops today have a much better chance of surviving if wounded. This is because of vast improvements in body armor and strides in battlefield medicine.

    For instance, the ratio of deaths to serious injuries in Iraq is less than half what it was in World War II. As recently as Vietnam, 28 percent of Americans hurt in action died. In Iraq, the ratio is 11 percent. In all, about 15,000 Americans have been wounded in combat here, about half of them seriously enough to go home.

    What may be most telling about the number of deaths is whether it creates a major shift in American public opinion, which has largely been tolerant of the loss of life in Iraq.

    "By any historical standards the casualties are incredibly low,'' says Anthony Cordesman, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington and a former US Defense Department official. "But America has changed. On the one hand, Americans don't have the stakes where their sons and daughters were subject to the draft. On the other, we have a media and a people that have been educated to believe in a precision, almost bloodless form of war."

    This milestone will be visited by both antiwar protesters and war supporters who say that the dead should be honored by finishing the job. Who wins that debate will hinge on how Americans answer the following questions: Has the cost been worth it? Is America willing to pay much more?

    Mr. Cordesman says at this time, the next few months will determine whether the military deaths will eventually become a rallying point for those who want America out of Iraq.

    "There's nothing magic about any given number of casualties, but what virtually any serious study of this shows is that Americans will tolerate casualties if they believe the conflict is needed, well managed, and there's a real purpose in continuing it,'' he says. "It seems obvious from public opinion polls that fewer and fewer Americans believe that."

    Improved rates of survival also mean that there are more amputees coming home. On a US base in Baquba, Iraq, recently, an Iraqi interpreter said he really missed his best friend in the army, a young woman lieutenant he served with. Asked what happened to her, he pulls from his wallet a snapshot of a young woman posing defiantly with the prosthesis for her right arm.

    While hard data aren't available on the number of amputees, the issue has led to a boom in research and development of advanced prosthetics in the US, most funded by the US Army. Amputees are now being fitted with artificial legs, that have computer chips that ease movement and develop a sort of artificial "muscle-memory."

    Also frequently neglected is looking at the war's cost to Iraqis. Roughly 25,000 Iraqi civilians have died in the course of the war, and this year has been particularly deadly for Iraqi police and soldiers, who patrol the streets of Iraq without the armored vehicles, medical expertise, and heavy weaponry that US forces rely on.
    Since the war began, about 3,300 Iraqi soldiers and police have been killed, 2,100 this year alone, according to a report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies released this week. The Iraqi Interior Ministry refuses to say how many police have been wounded.

    Three police interviewed in Baghdad Tuesday have lost 12 coworkers since the war began. "Of course I'm afraid - working as a policeman makes me an enormous target,'' says Amar Hasan, young cop guarding an interior ministry building. "But I'm not going to quit. We have to do this."

    Cordesman's data show that the US death rate is very low for a war of this size. But US support continues to slide. A Harris Interactive poll published in Tuesday's Wall Street Journal found that 53 percent of Americans now think invading Iraq was the "wrong thing to do." That's the first time that number has risen above 50 percent in the poll. The same poll in September found 49 percent of Americans opposed.

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    you see, this is the question I pose to you, as I have asked myself.

    what about the poor in Iraq?

    do you not believe that they will be better off and have a brighter future

    with Saddam Hussien removed from power?

    do you value American life over Iraqi life?

    I value all life. and I agree with the fact that people that do evil deeds should face judgement.

    IF it comes to light that Bush led our Country to War for many more Evil Reasons than for Good ones? I won't fear the truth. IF this war was motivated by 100% Oil, Military, Corporate Greed, then I will mourn, but not for long...as, the Iraqi people will still be FREE!

    Does the END justify the MEANS?

    Everyone will have their own opinion.

    If the Iraqi children have a brighter future, a chance at a real life?

    I know what my opinion will be.


    would you pick Saddam over Bush?

    who would you rather live under the authority of?

    Thanks in advance, man.

    Anyone else, please give your answer to that question as well if you so choose. Thanks!
    I value all life. But who are you to make people face judment in war and killing?

    Iraqi's will not be free, and Bush is in this for evil and greed.
    So what punishment should he face?

    Will I pick Saddam over Bush? You've got to be kidding.
    I'd rather have someone who doesn't say "internetsss" as my President, someone who can be a president and not send us to war with lies.

    The poor in Iraq? Yea, I'm sure Bush is doing this for the poor in Iraq. He doesn't even care about the poor here at home.

    How many of the poor in Iraq have we bombed? Did they face their judgement?

    Do I feel they will be better off with Saddam removed from power? NO.

    I feel we will be better off when Bush is removed from power.

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    Jesus would be a half Puerto Rican (with that name what else could you expect)
    Well his first name could be Murray.

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    Jesus is for virtous charity. Being forced to be charitous has no virtue. Jesus supporting a proggressive tax code seems a little too much wishful thinking on your part. Giving to charity and establishing a tax code that punishes pursuit of happiness is totally all different. Another thing to consider is that the poor dont pay taxes.

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    ^^^ The poor don't pay taxes?
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    One wonders if the president who decided to invade Iraq was pro-choice and pro-gay marriage if anyone on the left would give two flips about the poor of Iraq.

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    These seem to contradict one another.

    trouble maker

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    I don't know if this has been mentioned, but a Mexican will never be president.

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    I don't know if this has been mentioned, but a Mexican will never be president.

    You are right, he will be an American of Mexican Heritage. Just like the rest of our Presidents came from some foreign background. The only requirement is to be born in the U.S. of A.

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    You are right, he will be an American of Mexican Heritage. Just like the rest of our Presidents came from some foreign background. The only requirement is to be born in the U.S. of A.

    It will never happen. And the "foreign backgrounds" of all of our former presidents have been european.

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    It will never happen. And the "foreign backgrounds" of all of our former presidents have been european.
    Of course it will happen. Haven't you been watching the West Wing?
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    Of course it will happen. Haven't you been watching the West Wing?

    yeah, your dad is like totally gonna win

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    Of course it will happen. Con. Santos has all the momentum. Havent you been watching the West Wing?

    Or did you mean a Mexican will never be president in real life? If that's your argument, then I agree with you.
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    It will never happen. And the "foreign backgrounds" of all of our former presidents have been european.
    Yes, eventually there will be a President of Latino heritage, and eventually there will be one whose Latino background is Mexican.

    Eventually nobody will find the notion any stranger than the notion of an Irish or Italian President.

    Here's dirty little secret: According to the U.S. Government, most Hispanics are white people.

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    Of course it will happen. Con. Santos has all the momentum. Havent you been watching the West Wing?

    Or did you mean a Mexican will never be president in real life? If that's your argument, then I agree with you.

    I speak only in terms of "real life." What is this "West Wing" of which you speak?

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    Here's dirty little secret: According to the U.S. Government, most Hispanics are white people.
    I wish the parents of the girls I dated in high school felt the same way....
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    Yes, eventually there will be a President of Latino heritage, and eventually there will be one whose Latino background is Mexican.

    Eventually nobody will find the notion any stranger than the notion of an Irish or Italian President.

    Here's dirty little secret: According to the U.S. Government, most Hispanics are white people.

    OMG!!! He'll like totally steal all the furniture.

    and

    WOO-HOO, I'm white. Where's my money?

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    OMG!!! He'll like totally steal all the furniture.

    and

    WOO-HOO, I'm white. Where's my money?
    Either that or he'd have half his family crashing with him at the White House.
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