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    tony parker, manu and boris were the beautiful game. They all fell off a cliff in 2015 and kawhi turned the team to Kawhi iso; laMarcus and derozan just assumed the movement kawhi started. once derozan and Lamarcus leave the spurs will resume a modern style.



    It's just funny that the team Kawhi bailed on: a old gasol and dumb Tony parker is some how worse than the raptor's old gasol and fat and dumb kyle lowry. I know Kawhi isn't staying with the raps, but cmon, he's playing the ing 76ers with an injured embid. Kawhi shriveled more than not in the western conf and will be a coward against the warriors if they advance. Kevin Durant is his Dad.

    He's a top 3 player but not an alpha.
    Them losing was more on pop and lma than Kawhi... Also the 2017 spurs were near the top of the league in assists and efficiency...

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    Giannis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kawhi
    How is that a bad thing? He is the MVP... so everyone else is under him

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    Pop is a old school, Southern, belt using, get the best out of you father. Nick Nurse is a 2019 tight jeans wearing, being your kids best friend, pack you on the back saying it's ok Dad...
    So is Kerr... And look where he is at

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    We marvel at other team's players, but let's be honest, as I've always said, Curry wouldn't have been great under Pop... He would have simply been good... The minute he took a 40 foot three, he would be benched... The minute he got beat on D, he would be benched, and his confidence would have been affected as a young player... He would have only been able to operate within Pop's limitations... So no 1on 4 fast break pull up threes that absolutely bury opponents for him

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    Pop learned to coach in an era where Star players weren’t overriding the coaches and GMs.

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    Kawhi would have been a star on any other team... U do know other teams have stars that were chosen waaaaaay after where Kawhi was chosen, right?
    When you're so far up Kawhi's ass that you don't realize that Mugen was talking about Danny Green.

    Your schtick is tired.

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    So what else did Danny Green say or was that it? Lol. I'm sure Danny said more than what was posted but the way the tweet is set up makes great click bait.

    The people who are upset and want to blame Pop and RC regardless of what is put out there will not be swayed in their beliefs no matter if the evidence suggests other wise. Lol

    I do believe Nurse is more open to suggestion than Pop and I don't think Danny or Steven Jackson were lying by saying as such. I can understand why Nurse is more open to suggestion and its because he is a new coach who is trying not to be the reason Kawhi wants to leave. Not to mention he is trying not to be the reason the team underperforms how well they played with their previous coach of the year

    I have an issue with people trying to say Pop will not change or listen to players who prove themselves. He has most definitely listened to players who have proven they can play and showed they are trust worthy. Its obvious how this is the case by looking at how the team consistently changes it style to fit the players on the rosters strength. Pop even publically admitted he was using Aldridge wrong and changed the teams style to fit Kawhi better also.

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    If you swap Nurse for Pop, Toronto would be the prohibitive favorite to win it all, it's that simple imo. This is the same narrative like some here were saying about Brad ing Stevens. Where the is little Brad now with all that talent the Celtics have?

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    So is Kerr... And look where he is at
    An he cant get no respect from his Superstar player to turn the music down while he does an interview. Raps DO NOT have the stars the Warriors have. It's not even ckos3

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    When you're so far up Kawhi's ass that you don't realize that Mugen was talking about Danny Green.

    Your schtick is tired.
    Seriously

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    Those girls are hot man
    Glad you approve!

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    Glad you approve!

    Yeah, but you got rid of the guitar girl and replaced her with a wine glass of chocolate milk. I think there's something Freudian going on there.

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    You can't complain that Pop didn't give Kawhi enough freedom and also complain the the Beautiful Game went away.... Kawhi's emergence as an offensive powerhouse was always going to be more iso-heavy.
    Last edited by R. DeMurre; 05-07-2019 at 12:56 PM.

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    Yeah, but you got rid of the guitar girl and replaced her with a wine glass of chocolate milk. I think there's something Freudian going on there.


    Guitar girl may return next season by popular demand.

    Bobo approves of the wine glass girl.

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    I believe in balance. You have to be able to meet somewhere in the middle. Pop is the extreme of being a dictator while Coach Nurse is on the other extreme of being a cuck/pushover.
    Holy balls!!! We finally agree on something.

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    Link? Players?
    I'm not doubting you.
    Just that everything one hears and reads (at least upstairs and from the MSM bots) is "slurp slurp *everyone* wants to play for Pop. The entire NBA."
    https://www.slamonline.com/archives/...succeed-spurs/

    Richard Jefferson: “Tony came through the system: great player; Manu came through the system: great player; Tim came through the system: great player.

    “Myself: I struggled; Antonio McDyess: struggled; Michael Finley: struggled; LaMarcus Aldridge: struggling.” […]

    Robert Horry: “I remember my first year there, I struggled. And it was funny, the San Antonio fans were like, ‘Oh, he’s a spy! Lakers sending him here for us to suck!’

    “I’m like are you serious right now? I took less money just to get my rep back.

    “And I told Michael Finley, I said Mike let me tell you something, In order for you to be successful, you gotta dumb your game down.


    “He looked at me like, ‘What?’

    “You have to be a robot because when you get to San Antonio they get A, B, C, D. If you try to go to A, B, E, they gon’ look at you like, ‘Woah, what you doing?’”


    This pretty much explains why the Spurs are great at developing draft picks and free agents struggle to fit in

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    Bud was the real mastermind behind those 2013/14 teams and probably even more years before that.

    The beautiful game slowly turned into a 1994 system once he left. Yes, he was gone in 2014, but the Spurs still played unselfish like his teams usually do, and the players were playing with a hunger to get the job done. He won CotY twice in his 6 years of coaching. Took two mid table teams to the Conference Finals. Finds a home for journeymen who got let go from lottery teams like Lopez and Hill, much like we did with Diaw before he started turning into 0.2 Boris once Bud left. Makes all stars out of role players (Middleton, Korver, Teague), you know, the narratives everyone gifts to Pop. Bud actually does it.

    Giannis and Bledsoe can't shoot for , neither can Aldridge and Derozan. Two of those guys play for a team that shoot the 2nd most 3s, the other two play for the team that's dead last in 3PA. There's levels to systems.

    Excited to see what Coach Bud can do now that he finally has a generational talent just like Pop had with Duncan and Kawhi.
    truth bomb tbh. Not to mention Bud almost had to fight Pop to trade Hill for Kawhi

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    it was always funny when people called kawhi a system player when our system actually restricts individual stats quite a bit
    No matter how you or anyone slices it, Spurs won 5 les and went to 6! Nothing is guaranteed no matter the mix of a team. All those pieces, players and coaches, contributed to the les. Twenty plus of consecutive playoff seasons? Dude we’ve been so lucky it’s blinded us.

    Everyone everywhere is some kind of system player. Everyone runs a system of sorts.

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    All good, just don't forget who made you though tbh. He'd be dancing in layup lines somewhere in Lithuania if it weren't for the Spurs.


    I got sick of his passive-aggressive, thinly veiled bull early in the season. If he's got something to say, have some balls and say it.

    He's been slurping up to Toronto media since his arrival, trying to play team spokesman (while doubling as s bag's hype man), so if he re-signs, maybe he'll try to work his way into the media there when he retires . . . if he tries to worm his way back in here, the organization should pull some strings and shut that down.

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    Man the animosity towards Danny is misplaced imo.

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    This pretty much explains why the Spurs are great at developing draft picks and free agents struggle to fit in
    Pretty interesting. A lot of times, companies would rather have young new minds to mold vs getting someone that already has had experience in that field because of old habits that may go against on how they do things.

    I'm trying to think of what free agents spurs have signed in the last 20 years that has been successful. Off the top of my head
    -Brent Barry
    -Bruce Bowen
    -Boris Diaw

    Thats all i can think of, there was probably more. not sure lol

    But i don't see it as a necessarily bad thing that some of these players have a hard time fitting in. Its bad in the sense for future free agents. But at the same time, we have won more than other teams in the last 2 decades. So something in our system is good. But its definitely not for everyone.

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    If you swap Nurse for Pop, Toronto would be the prohibitive favorite to win it all, it's that simple imo. This is the same narrative like some here were saying about Brad ing Stevens. Where the is little Brad now with all that talent the Celtics have?
    Stevens got rid of too many key players, ing the nucleus in the process.
    Also getting one B star like Hayward is not going to do a lot for your team.

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    An he cant get no respect from his Superstar player to turn the music down while he does an interview. Raps DO NOT have the stars the Warriors have. It's not even ckos3
    U completely missed the point... Having the qualities of giving ur players freedom doesn't make u a bad or weak coach... Kerr has had the best team in the league even before KD, and he allowed them tons of freedom... Larry Brown was rigid and never won a championship

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    I got sick of his passive-aggressive, thinly veiled bull early in the season. If he's got something to say, have some balls and say it.

    He's been slurping up to Toronto media since his arrival, trying to play team spokesman (while doubling as s bag's hype man), so if he re-signs, maybe he'll try to work his way into the media there when he retires . . . if he tries to worm his way back in here, the organization should pull some strings and shut that down.
    Tbf Danny might be the one guy that has a right to feel a little slighted by PATFO. I don't feel Pop ever truly embraced him. I get why Pop would never embrace him like he embraced the Big 3, but he never even embraced him the way he did Patty (a much lesser player). Danny was a vital cog of the '14 team and numerous other deep runs, did the Spurs a solid with his current contract, and seemed to genuinely love the Spurs and Big 3. I still remember how sad he seemed after the Clippers loss because his future (FA) and the future of Manu/Timmy (retirement) was uncertain.

    Yet Pop always coached him the hardest and dangled him in trade talks for years.

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    I got sick of his passive-aggressive, thinly veiled bull early in the season. If he's got something to say, have some balls and say it.

    He's been slurping up to Toronto media since his arrival, trying to play team spokesman (while doubling as s bag's hype man), so if he re-signs, maybe he'll try to work his way into the media there when he retires . . . if he tries to worm his way back in here, the organization should pull some strings and shut that down.
    He did say it

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