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    Some interesting info about Samanic, concerning his current team.

    - he went to draft combine in the middle of Slovenian league playoffs, missing 2nd semifinals game and first finals game
    - he was supposed to be back for game 2 of the finals
    - yesterday was game 2, he wasn't playing and neither was he present at the game
    - apparently, the team doesn't even know if he is still in USA, he is not communicating with them (only via agent) and nedless to say he won't play a game for the team again

    I know all this stuff that is happening isn't directly connected to Spurs, but a player acting like that to his current team reminds me a lot about a certain player. Do I want to see a player acting like that at the age of 19 (what else's to come?) on our team? No.
    Maybe he doesnt want to risk injury? I mean who wants to play in a minor league anyway

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    Yeah but you are under contract, none of the "who wants to play" schtick should be tolerated. whatever the reason is, you at least talk to the team, right? Or... We have seen that movie before.

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    Some interesting info about Samanic, concerning his current team.

    - he went to draft combine in the middle of Slovenian league playoffs, missing 2nd semifinals game and first finals game
    - he was supposed to be back for game 2 of the finals
    - yesterday was game 2, he wasn't playing and neither was he present at the game
    - apparently, the team doesn't even know if he is still in USA, he is not communicating with them (only via agent) and nedless to say he won't play a game for the team again

    I know all this stuff that is happening isn't directly connected to Spurs, but a player acting like that to his current team reminds me a lot about a certain player. Do I want to see a player acting like that at the age of 19 (what else's to come?) on our team? No.
    If you are considering taking him you can't ignore this kind of information. Is this just a 19 year old getting bad advice and being overwhelmed by "the big city" or is it signs of more serious long term Diva behavior.

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    Maybe he doesnt want to risk injury? I mean who wants to play in a minor league anyway
    So ing familiar huh?

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    Spurs would have the option to make Simmons deal guaranteed before July 1st. They can make that trade and let him go soon after as long as its before July 1st.
    They can't DO the trade before July 1st. After the draft, there is a moratorium on trades until the FA period opens on..........drum roll..........JULY 1st! Philly won't have cap room until the FA period starts, so you can't do it before that.

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    Some interesting info about Samanic, concerning his current team.

    - he went to draft combine in the middle of Slovenian league playoffs, missing 2nd semifinals game and first finals game
    - he was supposed to be back for game 2 of the finals
    - yesterday was game 2, he wasn't playing and neither was he present at the game
    - apparently, the team doesn't even know if he is still in USA, he is not communicating with them (only via agent) and nedless to say he won't play a game for the team again

    I know all this stuff that is happening isn't directly connected to Spurs, but a player acting like that to his current team reminds me a lot about a certain player. Do I want to see a player acting like that at the age of 19 (what else's to come?) on our team? No.
    Assuming your info is correct, do not want... especially as the impression I get is he's not a gym rat who likes ball (like Kawhi was, regardless of other character traits/bad advice/uncle).

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    move to run away from his team for sure, however they might have had an understanding beforehand as he was always going to be in the draft.

    I think what has changed the most is that he no longer seems like a draft and stash pick, which could affect his drafting position. On the other hand he seems to have done well for himself and if some team likes him and he gets drafted in the 1st round and he's brought to the NBA right away that'd be a huge win for him and his agent. I'm sure his current team will get a payoff and be fine with it all as well.

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    move to run away from his team for sure, however they might have had an understanding beforehand as he was always going to be in the draft.

    I think what has changed the most is that he no longer seems like a draft and stash pick, which could affect his drafting position. On the other hand he seems to have done well for himself and if some team likes him and he gets drafted in the 1st round and he's brought to the NBA right away that'd be a huge win for him and his agent. I'm sure his current team will get a payoff and be fine with it all as well.
    He and his agent have been very forthcoming in stating that their goal was the NBA this coming season. To "stash" a player, you have to get them to sign an NBA form stating that they're not coming over. Otherwise, they can show up, and demand their guaranteed first round contract. Failure to offer it costs the team it's draft rights, and makes the player a FA.

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    Yeah he should be back with his team playing even Zion came back from injury to play with his team.

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    LuQuisling tbh. But if he gives us a chip, then all is forgiven fwiw.

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    Sounds like a team made a promise that he would be drafted. Why would he risk injury before getting drafted.

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    I assume he shut it down because he outplayed everybody. His stock is rising, so no need to play again and look like the first day was a fluke

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    Some interesting info about Samanic, concerning his current team.

    - he went to draft combine in the middle of Slovenian league playoffs, missing 2nd semifinals game and first finals game
    - he was supposed to be back for game 2 of the finals
    - yesterday was game 2, he wasn't playing and neither was he present at the game
    - apparently, the team doesn't even know if he is still in USA, he is not communicating with them (only via agent) and nedless to say he won't play a game for the team again

    I know all this stuff that is happening isn't directly connected to Spurs, but a player acting like that to his current team reminds me a lot about a certain player. Do I want to see a player acting like that at the age of 19 (what else's to come?) on our team? No.
    Good info.

    I don't think it makes him undraftable, though. He's not the first prospect to do something similar. IIRC, Dirk Nowitzki escaped his team in the middle of the night without telling anyone in order to come to America ... and he didn't end up having any lingering character issues.

    The Spurs have good contacts in that region so they should be able to figure out if Samanic's character is something to worry about.

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    I assume he shut it down because he outplayed everybody. His stock is rising, so no need to play again and look like the first day was a fluke
    Kinda reminds me of Livio

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    Sounds like a team made a promise that he would be drafted. Why would he risk injury before getting drafted.
    I'd go further and say he got a first round promise. No reason to continue the combine, work out or go back to whatever beet basket team he abandoned.

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    High IQ and scrappy tbh...

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    Question regarding “promises” how does it work if say, the thunder promised to take him at their pick, but then he gets drafted way before? The thunder just go to Plan B? I’m sure it makes no difference for the player as they are just happy to get drafted in the 1st?

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    Question regarding “promises” how does it work if say, the thunder promised to take him at their pick, but then he gets drafted way before? The thunder just go to Plan B? I’m sure it makes no difference for the player as they are just happy to get drafted in the 1st?
    Yeah, the promise is only for the team making that promise. Guarantees a floor for their earnings.

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    Unfortunate that he's now in the radar. He could still be picked by the Spurs at #19.

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    Would be happy with him at 19 and Clayton at 29. Trade Bertans for high 2nd and get Okeke.

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    Im pretty sure if RC went to go personally scout this kid overseas a few times he’s our guy at 19. We havnt had a bad attirude Euro player yet. We’ll see

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    I wouldn't be surprised if CIA PATFO is making him look scarce to other teams.

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    Would be happy with him at 19 and Clayton at 29. Trade Bertans for high 2nd and get Okeke.
    Very Nice - Me Like.

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    I think i'd be ok with him at 19 If Roby or Okpala are there at 29 to take.

    Samanic is an interesting player; he isn't a good 3pt shooter but has good shooting form (even though his FT% is shaky) surprisingly good rebounder based on his stats. Has post skill and looks comfortable driving.

    Spurs get a potiential starter at the 4, long term and the same at the 3 with a player that is big enough to scale up.

    Murray, Mills
    Forbes, White, Walker
    DeRozan, Belinelli, Roby/Okpala
    Gay, Bertans, Samanic
    Aldridge, Poeltl, Metu

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    Would be happy with him at 19 and Clayton at 29. Trade Bertans for high 2nd and get Okeke.
    I don't know, maybe it's the other way around Clayton at 19 and Samanic at 29. Samanic however is the more skilled player, but the upside is with Clayton.

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