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    If he stays in the East, that IS better for the Spurs. The past is the past. Going forward having another Top 4 talent in the West would be worse than any "saving face" stuff.

    Also, it would make Cris Carter look stupid. Which I would enjoy.

    Now if Kawhi re-signs with Raptors, Durant goes to NY and Houston implodes (as they might) West becomes much more open.


    You know, a cynical person could read all that to say that the only way for the Spurs to get deeper into the playoffs is for everyone else to get worse. Not me... but a cynical person.
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    It doesnt sound too crazy to think that the Spurs have a chance to make a deep playoff run/finals appearance in the next few years with kawhi staying in the east .. Durant leaving to NY and Houston blowing up their team... it's possible

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    Good choice tbh.

    Be the new Lebron's replacement and dominate the East and reaching Finals every year.

    Let the western monsters beat/injure themselves on their way to the Finals. And then slay the western champion
    what "Western monsters"? It's 2019, the West is just a bunch of RS pretenders outside of the Warriors, and even they might lose Durant next season..

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    If he really does extend, will the contingent that still hates him on this site turn their vitriol to PATFO, as deserved?
    I hope so. I've been off the PoopATFO train since Poop took Timmy out with 28 seconds to go in 6, but it's been amplified over the past 2 years big time. I fully support Kawhi and view Poop as a coattail rider who's benefited off full careers of 2 generational all-world talents (Timmy and Manu), 1 perennial All-Star in Parker who would have been the same player with or without Poop, and then of course the chance to extend the dynasty by lucking into Kawhi but completely blowing it with his hypocritical "get over yourself" bull . I hate Poop(ATFO) with a passion and I hope they retire and the team relocates and preserves its history in SA.

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    what "Western monsters"? It's 2019, the West is just a bunch of RS pretenders outside of the Warriors, and even they might lose Durant next season..
    73 wins without Durant, an 67 and a championship the year before. They'll be fine.

    Harden gets traded to Sacramento for a player and pick. Kings also get Walker and possibly a big man.

    Clippers get Durant at the very least.

    Lakers...? They might luck into Irving and reach trade for DeRozan.

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    what "Western monsters"? It's 2019, the West is just a bunch of RS pretenders outside of the Warriors, and even they might lose Durant next season..
    Pretty much. The West as a whole is mediocre outside of the Warriors.

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    Good!

    Clippers

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    You know, a cynical person could read all that to say that the only way for the Spurs to get deeper into the playoffs is for everyone else to get worse. Not me... but a cynical person.
    Cynics originated in ancient Greece, Zeus, so can I blame you?

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    Cynics originated in ancient Greece, Zeus, so can I blame you?

    Dammit. You just beat me with my own schtick.

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    Dammit. You just beat me with my own schtick.

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    what "Western monsters"? It's 2019, the West is just a bunch of RS pretenders outside of the Warriors, and even they might lose Durant next season..
    Tbh

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    Soo he wasnt bent on la afterall!?

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    Soo he wasnt bent on la afterall!?
    Don't count on it.

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    I don't understand Spurs fans who think this would be bad news. Spurs fans should want Neph to stay in the East. Nephew coming back West and torturing the Spurs for the rest of his career is by far the worst case scenario.

    The trade is done; Spurs fans should want him to stay in the East; any other thinking is being skewed by the sunk cost fallacy, tbh.

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    Kawhi and whatever success he has achieved so far and what he will achieve going forward.. My beef is with what we received in exchange, and how rushed it was. Why did PATFO feel the need to move him for such a ty deal? New Orleans is handling their situation so much better..

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    The LAL fans would bandwagon to whatever Cali team so this is good news, stay east

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    Why did PATFO feel the need to move him for such a ty deal?
    Player-friendly reputation to maintain.

    Plus, adverse to conflict or controversy.

    I think they did fine under extreme unforeseen cir stances.

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    Player-friendly reputation to maintain.

    Plus, adverse to conflict or controversy.

    I think they did fine under extreme unforeseen cir stances.
    How does one soured relationship with a player erase a history of a well run, player first tight knit franchise? PATFO rushed that trade considering story just came out in one of the major media outlets on how Anunoby and Siakam were off limits..

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    Kawhi and whatever success he has achieved so far and what he will achieve going forward.. My beef is with what we received in exchange, and how rushed it was. Why did PATFO feel the need to move him for such a ty deal? New Orleans is handling their situation so much better..
    Umm lets wait until the Pels end up after AD is traded. Plus they got lucky and got the 1st pick.

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    I don't understand Spurs fans who think this would be bad news. Spurs fans should want Neph to stay in the East. Nephew coming back West and torturing the Spurs for the rest of his career is by far the worst case scenario.

    The trade is done; Spurs fans should want him to stay in the East; any other thinking is being skewed by the sunk cost fallacy, tbh.
    At the time of the trade, the prevailing theory was that he wanted out from the spurs to go play in California. The idea was that there was nothing the team could do to make him want to play in south Texas because his heart was set on California. Totally outside of the team’s control. Nothing could be done because nephew is under uncle’s control, etc etc

    If he reups in Toronto, the entire narrative changes. It ceases to be about Kawhi wanting SoCal and nothing else — meaning his wanting out was something the spurs could have controlled. The blame would shift from nephew to the organization because Kawhi’s desired team wouldn’t revolve around something the spurs could control (is being in California) and would shift to something they could have (ie, personnel issues that you’ve intimated).

    Does it matter in the end? Kinda. I do agree what’s done is done, so stop checking your exes insta. But as fans who consume the product put out by the spurs, if you don’t place a large chunk of the blame on the ownership and management team (should Kawhi re-up), then what’s the point? The product is ultimately made for the fans and if mediocrity is the name of the game now because “who cares about the Kawhi deal,” then I’d imagine a lot of fans should stop watching.

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    Umm lets wait until the Pels end up after AD is traded. Plus they got lucky and got the 1st pick.
    Not sure how the 1st overall got brought into this, but my point is AD wants out, and the Pelicans did not ask "how high" when he demanded they jump. I'm not expecting PATFO to become the Detroit Lions FO here, but damn it really seems in retrospect that we could have exercised a bit more patience with the future in mind.

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    I have a feeling that Kawhi will experience some kind of injury in this series.

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    At the time of the trade, the prevailing theory was that he wanted out from the spurs to go play in California. The idea was that there was nothing the team could do to make him want to play in south Texas because his heart was set on California. Totally outside of the team’s control. Nothing could be done because nephew is under uncle’s control, etc etc

    If he reups in Toronto, the entire narrative changes. It ceases to be about Kawhi wanting SoCal and nothing else — meaning his wanting out was something the spurs could have controlled. The blame would shift from nephew to the organization because Kawhi’s desired team wouldn’t revolve around something the spurs could control (is being in California) and would shift to something they could have (ie, personnel issues that you’ve intimated).
    No it doesn't. So much has changed in a year, as in a year of red-carpet treatment, and a trip to the Finals with a chance to beat a so-called dynasty.

    It would be weird if he didn't want to stay, regardless of what he might have wanted last year. Experience changes things.

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    At the time of the trade, the prevailing theory was that he wanted out from the spurs to go play in California. The idea was that there was nothing the team could do to make him want to play in south Texas because his heart was set on California. Totally outside of the team’s control. Nothing could be done because nephew is under uncle’s control, etc etc

    If he reups in Toronto, the entire narrative changes.
    It ceases to be about Kawhi wanting SoCal and nothing else — meaning his wanting out was something the spurs could have controlled. The blame would shift from nephew to the organization because Kawhi’s desired team wouldn’t revolve around something the spurs could control (is being in California) and would shift to something they could have (ie, personnel issues that you’ve intimated).

    Does it matter in the end? Kinda. I do agree what’s done is done, so stop checking your exes insta. But as fans who consume the product put out by the spurs, if you don’t place a large chunk of the blame on the ownership and management team (should Kawhi re-up), then what’s the point? The product is ultimately made for the fans and if mediocrity is the name of the game now because “who cares about the Kawhi deal,” then I’d imagine a lot of fans should stop watching.
    exactly what I think (and said earlier), if he really stay in Toronto the story gets even stranger.

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    him and the horse he rode in on; I'd just as soon hear another Rod Strickland update.

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