In your projections, you were confused over Jackson or Hedo getting the crunch time minutes, scott.
Jackson would.
But Jackson is gone, so Hedo will.
You say Jackson would as if it is some certainty. I disagree. I think, in all likelyhood, Hedo would get the minutes Jack normally got in the crunch.
Not because Hedo is necessarily better or because that is what I want- but because I think that's what Pop would do.
When he didn't get what he wanted. Just as a fer instance, the playoffs, when he thought he should be on the floor he was mad because he wasn't. The Spurs were struggling and instead of jumping up and supporting them he moved away from the bench, practically under the basket, and was sulking. Maybe bad at ude is not exactly the correct terminology, but that's what I chose.When did Jack have a bad at ude?
I think Spursman equates "bad at ude" with being young and black.
Thanks for the laugh GW.
Jackson has proven himself to come through in the clutch, while Hedo has never even gotten off the bench in the clutch.
And Jackson, Manu, and Parker had never played any crunch time minutes until Greg Popovich gave them the opportunity to.
My entire contention is that Pop plays his "key guys" in the clutch, and in the Spurs system, Hedo would be more of a key guy than Jack would be- under Pop.
You should know better than anyone that Pop doesn't always put The Magic Lineup in at the end of games.
Assume Jack was back, I'd put the 2003-2004 Magic Lineup as follows, under the assumption that Hedo can handle playing the 4.
Parker-Manu-Jackson-Hedo-Duncan.
However, you and I don't coach the San Antonio Spurs. The incomprehensible Greg Popovich does. The most likely linup, IMO, would be:
Parker-Manu-Hedo-Duncan-Rasho.
As far as I know (and what really do I know) is that the only way to get Jack back is to over pay him. Pop said last night that Jack will not be back and that they will not over pay him.
I know, scott, but Pop must've noticed all the games we won with The Magic Lienup and he can be fiercely loyal to his proven players.
Kori, to be fair, when Tony did the same thing it also rubbed me the wrong way. When Speedy was hitting jumpers during Game 6 of the Finals, the whole bench was jumping up and down except for Parker who was clapping, but altogether looking somewhat less than thrilled. That pissed me off! Moping after being benched is not a great at ude, but I also recognize that both TP and SJax are young players and still have some growing up to do.Tony Parker moped on the bench too when pulled for Speedy, but I guess since he's not on his way out the door, we don't bring it up or criticize it.
Jack always did a great job pumping up the team.
Who do you think will fill the role of the Spurs "Rah-Rah" guy?
There aren't many of those types on this Spurs' squad.
Malik will be the new cheerleader. And Tim will grab a few more heads.
You people laugh, but I quiver to think who is going to demand to take the shots that matter next year.
Stephen begged for the ball in critical moments and made his share of clutch shots.
Who's going to fill that void?
Question.
hmmm...You people laugh, but I quiver to think who is going to demand to take the shots that matter next year.
Stephen begged for the ball in critical moments and made his share of clutch shots.
Who's going to fill that void?
4 down DOES come to mind....:vomit
Hi folks, I'm new here. I've been following the Kings for the past 3 years. I thought I could lend some insight on Hedo here.
Ghost writer, with all due respect, you seem to know little about Hedo. Last season was a miserable season for him due to various reasons, many resting solely on his shoulders. However, the 2 prior seasons he has been clutch off the bench on MANY occassions, including the 2001 and 2002 playoffs. He has torched the Lakers and Mavs in several playoff games.
Make no mistake about it, this kid has tremendous upside and has already shown it. If he gains some maturity and dedicates himself to the game, Spurs fans are going to be very happy.
Welcome to the Forum Taruky! There are some pretty knowledgeable basketball fans in here. I'm sure you will be a positive addition to the group (I saw a couple of your posts in another forum).
Feel free to provide more insight on Hedo, particularly his ball-handling ability and how effective he might be in breaking a press. Did the Kings ever use him for spot duty in that way, or was he mostly used at the wing? RC Buford spoke of Hedo's ability to initiate the offense, if called upon.
Welcome, Taruky. Any Hedo insight is more than welcome.
I know that in the 2002 playoffs, Hedo had a bad game one but bounced back with big games. Hopefully he can fill the void left by Jackson.
I don't like how people talk about Clutch Shooting being Jack's only positive.
Let's not forget he would actually score during the game, and when he was just concerned with finishing, rather than creating he was deadly. The occasional drive instead of constant creating, was usually successful and he was very good at feeding Duncan after driving, and Ran the PnR well with Duncan, splitting the defenders etc.
He is going to be severly missed IMO and the Spurs are going to be less confident, exciting and will have less of that element of surprise Jackson bought them.
Let's not forget the experience Jax has with our system. This work will have to be re-learned by Hedo and Ron (if he gets the chance to play). This will cost us some games.
I agree we will miss Jax clutch shooting. But we won't miss the ball handling skills. Let's just hope it works out for the best for everyone involved. Some times the best moves are the ones you DON'T make, Jax are you listening?
Someone needs to beat Jax agent with a stick.
Go Spurs...
I just hope the rest of the leauge has forgotten who holds the biggest nutsack this side of the mississippi based off one bad playoffs.
ROBERT FRICKING HORRY.
Are you telling me none of you would cringe if he took a last second 3 for another team against the Spurs now? I know I would.
taruky, with all due respect, you didn't tell me anything I didn't already know about Hedo.
It's about time he turned his career around and started realizing that potential.
Has Turkoglu ever made a big shot in his career?
:Q
I wish Jack was back.
Another thing I will miss about Jack is his ability to move without the ball. I think he may have been the best on our team at moving without the ball and getting free for a feed from Duncan or Manu for a layup. Thats exactly the type of thing our team has had a tendency to stop doing during the 4th Q of games.
Ghostwriter, with even more due respect :wink , yes he has made big shots. I guess I'm not understanding what you mean by big shot. A 3-pointer in game 7 of the NBA finals? Well no.
I'm not denying that Hedo had a bad year and needs to take some responsibility. But you said he's never been clutch, and that is wrong.
I'll miss Jack's clutch shootung.
I won't miss the turnovers.
One would have to wonder if the Spurs will simply be in as many clutch situations with three or so fewer turnovers per game.
I've enjoyed Jack, but he's being an idiot about his contract. I hope he ends up in a situation where he can reach his potential as a player, be that here or elsewhere.
No matter how much talent you have or how well your team plays, playoff games will always be close. That is the rule of the sport. Defenses clamp down and players elevate their game to the point where winning and losing is decided on a very thin line.
That thin line is where the Spurs will miss Jackson. He wasn't afraid to put his neck on the chopping block during the late parts of games. If he misses those threes in Game 6 of the Finals, Spurs fans would still be pissed at him. But he didn't care and helped bring home the W and the rings.
He'll be missed.
R.I.U., Jackson
(Rest In Utah)
I'm still holding my silver and black rosary in hopes of Jackson's return to San Antonio. Maybe once he finds out that no one will give him what he wants then he and the Spurs can make up and move on...together.
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