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    What if you have young children and infants? What if you have nobody to provide shelter to you? The evacuees had no clue where to go. They trusted that the local government was giving them good advice when they were told to make it to the superdome. That didn't work out very well.

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    That was a personal insult? Can the poor not walk? I really don't understand the point to what you are saying. Even a person who has no money and has nothing but the shirt on their back can move a significant distance on foot or whatever means they may have availible to them. Only the infirm, disabled, or otherwise immobile are exempt from this. I wasn't attacking the poor, or any other groups of people if that's what you were implying. I would rather walk 50 miles than be at 20 feet below sea level at land fall of a hurricane. Race and poverty would not keep me from walking.
    You're right. You're so much better than those people of New Orleans. They must not be as intelligent and capable as you obviously are.

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    What if you have young children and infants? What if you have nobody to provide shelter to you? The evacuees had no clue where to go. They trusted that the local government was giving them good advice when they were told to make it to the superdome. That didn't work out very well.

    I don't live my life expecting anyone to give me anything or bail me out if I'm in trouble.



    Maybe that's the problem?

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    I don't live my life expecting anyone to give me anything or bail me out if I'm in trouble.



    Maybe that's the problem?
    I think the point of the article was that most of the stranded NO residents weren't leeching of the system as your idols Rush, Hannity, etc. would suggest.

    People were caught up in a bad, unprecedented situation. To blame them is wrong (or worse yet, racist).

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    You're right. You're so much better than those people of New Orleans. They must not be as intelligent and capable as you obviously are.

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    You're just making stuff up now. Quote me where I said I was better than anyone else? Show me where I called anyone out? I said if I was in that position this is what I'd do. 50 miles means that when a hurricane hits you are on ground that is above sea level. Tell me how that is not a good thing? How long does it take to drown compared to starving to death? When you are faced with survival, you don't worry about such things as food and water until you are out of harms way. Sorry if that offends you, but there's no reason it should.

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    I think the point of the article was that most of the stranded NO residents weren't leeching of the system as your idols Rush, Hannity, etc. would suggest.

    People were caught up in a bad, unprecedented situation. To blame them is wrong (or worse yet, racist).
    Who is blaming them?

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    Who is blaming them?
    you. but you're a racist.

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    I think the point of the article was that most of the stranded NO residents weren't leeching of the system as your idols Rush, Hannity, etc. would suggest.

    People were caught up in a bad, unprecedented situation. To blame them is wrong (or worse yet, racist).

    My idols? I don't listen to any of that .


    You don't think those people should bear any responsiblity whatsoever for their own safety?

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    My idols? I don't listen to any of that .


    You don't think those people should bear any responsiblity whatsoever for their own safety?

    I guess, but I'm not about to judge people that suffered through arguably the worst natural disaster in US history. I hope I would be able to escape with my family, but until I'm faced with something similar I can't answer your question honestly. You shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house. Think about it.

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    You're just making stuff up now. Quote me where I said I was better than anyone else? Show me where I called anyone out? I said if I was in that position this is what I'd do. 50 miles means that when a hurricane hits you are on ground that is above sea level.
    Statements like "There's no excuse for not walking....I would have walked, etc."

    If you don't think those statements are a little condescending it is because you are blinded by your ego and sense of superiority.
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    My idols? I don't listen to any of that .


    You don't think those people should bear any responsiblity whatsoever for their own safety?
    So what are you trying to get at? We shouldn't feel sorry for them, we shouldn't help them, this is all their fault, etc.

    What point are you trying to make?
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    ^^^THe Hannity's and limbaugh's were not blaming the poor, but the Democrat elite of NO who made the poor have no access to betterment and survival. NO was supposed to be a Utopia by liberal standards because they had the Great SOciety at work in NO. It failed. The conservative synopsis was that the liberal policies of "non responsibility" cost the poor who depended on their policies for their betterment. The article dan posted ironically showed no qoutes of the people he attacked.
    COuldn't of it been that they, the journalists', "twisted" their message to muddy the conservative point.

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    you. but you're a racist.
    [sarcasm] and your anti american!

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    I too feel that we have responsibility for ourselves but what about those who have homes on the coasts of Florida and California and they too get govt assistance to rebuild their million dollar homes?

    Everyone needs a helping hand sometimes.

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    ^^yes everyone does need help at one point or another. The conservative criticism of NO's was on the politicians and not the poor. Only a hack article like the one posted made conservatives turn out to hate the black poor.

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    Statements like "There's no excuse for not walking....I would have walked, etc."

    If you don't think those statements are a little condescending it is because you are blinded by your ego and sense of superiority.
    Whatever. You come here with a condescending tone towards me. I have never talked down to or put down the people. I said this is what I would do if in a certain situation. How is that condescending? If faced with a choice of drowning or starving to death, I choose starving. Why? Because it takes much longer to starve, than to drown. I even qualified my take with people who are disabled or infirm could understandably not move themselves out of harms way. These are all very basic principles that have nothing to do with putting some one down and entirely with the actual cir stances that happen in a disaster like Katrina.

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    you. but you're a racist.
    I'm not a racist and I take offense to be labeled as one. Why don't you bring some proof before you open your mouth.

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    Statements like "There's no excuse for not walking....I would have walked, etc."

    If you don't think those statements are a little condescending it is because you are blinded by your ego and sense of superiority.
    I never made that statement. You have modified it to try and make what I said into something else. I don't know why you feel the need to vilify what I have stated in this thread. I have not ridiculed, put down, or made any disparaging remarks about anyone in the forum or elsewhere.

    This is the statement I made:


    Also, the only people who have an excuse for not getting out of the area are those you can not MOVE on their own. I mean people who are infirm or disabled. I can walk 50 miles in three days. 50 miles would mean the difference in drowning or living in New Orleans during the hurricane.
    You said I stated there is no excuse for not walking, when I cleary was giving reasons for people not being able to move themselves out of harms way.

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