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    Yeah, he's so bad on offense that he could end up being worthless. Advanced stats (including RPM) grade him as consistently one of the worst offensive players in the league.

    But dat D doe. And his shot looks salvageable, IMO.
    Luckily his contract would theoretically reflect that risk. Since it’s via FA it’s not like he’s being traded for a shooter. He’s a spot guy unless he proves (that’s the hope) that he can be a net positive.

    But with all the ball handlers SA has (Murray, White, DeRozan and even Lonnie/Mills) he would not be asked to do much other than spot up. If he can do that effectively while having ANY improvement in secondary/third pass dribble drive creation that’s a of a fit

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    Would like. If we can get him for the min, awesome. Do we have any other options beside splitting the MLE? If we dumped someone, say belinelli, for a trade exception, could we use that?

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    How well does he defend against 4’s?

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    Would like. If we can get him for the min, awesome. Do we have any other options beside splitting the MLE? If we dumped someone, say belinelli, for a trade exception, could we use that?
    Anyone you trade while taking back LESS salary creates a trade exception. But that can’t be used to sign a free agent. Only used in a single trade (can’t be combined)

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    this man could be Chip's sistine chapel tbh

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    I imagine SJ still gets $3-4 million per season, especially now that he's unrestricted.

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    I imagine SJ still gets $3-4 million per season, especially now that he's unrestricted.
    Ya - at that level there is really no risk. Id sign him 4 full years at that price EASILY

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    happy he's ufa...hoping we sign him by day one. Price? just depending how much ha asks and how much we value him...but for sure if he wants to improve his chances to become a better player and enhance his value for his next contract, ther's no better choice for him than us...I would be inclined to let him sign a 3/4 years contract starting from a decent part (from 3 to half) of the MLE...but I would not be disappointed if we decide to go all in on him for the same multiple years with the full MLE...

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    Nope. Don't get the love. Having a guy who can "body up" Kawhi isn't remotely a concern. This isn't the 00s anymore. You don't win by putting your one-on-one defender on a guy and letting them go to work. Kawhi's a throwback player for sure, but he's only one guy, and it's probably still better to guard him with a team rather than a guy. Moreover, I wasn't really that impressed with Stan's defense. Kawhi seemed to let the contact get to him and tried to match like with like. He should have backed up and tried to go downhill rather than trying to post up. I assume Leonard learned how to go against Johnson as their teams' series went on.

    I mean, I'm not against any flier PATFO wants to take. Maybe Stan can learn to shoot and become an everyday starting four. Sign me up for that. But him doing okay against a guy who isn't even in the team's division doesn't feel worth the money and roster spot when they have a legit rotation spot they should be trying to fill.

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    Even at 23 he’d be as much of a project as a rookie and the Spurs already have a player of a similar ilk in Keldon Johnson, so I can’t see them being interested.

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    Get this guy plllllllllllllssssssssss

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    Get this guy plllllllllllllssssssssss

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    I hope we can get him for cheap. I think he is still young enough to fix his shot

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    "The New Orleans Pelicans will decline to extend qualifying offers to Stanley Johnson and Cheick Diallo."

    I guess Spurs can get him on the cheap if they want to.

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    Ya - at that level there is really no risk. Id sign him 4 full years at that price EASILY
    agree

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    Nope. Don't get the love. Having a guy who can "body up" Kawhi isn't remotely a concern. This isn't the 00s anymore. You don't win by putting your one-on-one defender on a guy and letting them go to work. Kawhi's a throwback player for sure, but he's only one guy, and it's probably still better to guard him with a team rather than a guy. Moreover, I wasn't really that impressed with Stan's defense. Kawhi seemed to let the contact get to him and tried to match like with like. He should have backed up and tried to go downhill rather than trying to post up. I assume Leonard learned how to go against Johnson as their teams' series went on.

    I mean, I'm not against any flier PATFO wants to take. Maybe Stan can learn to shoot and become an everyday starting four. Sign me up for that. But him doing okay against a guy who isn't even in the team's division doesn't feel worth the money and roster spot when they have a legit rotation spot they should be trying to fill.
    you're not wrong but the point is that he could have a big value for us just with his perimeter defense...think of a team that has anytime on then floor at least three and in special situations four to five players all young and good at defending the perimeter...that's a nightmare for opposing teams. With Murray, White, Walker, Kj and him (because one of his value for our team is that - and in this he's similar but different from KJ - cause his role is more like a 3/4 than a 2/3 and only in case 4) we could have 5 players that can come in and guarantee an high level and energetic perimeter defense also if the fourth and fifth man are defensively just average or less than average ...(like DDR, Bertans, Mills, Forbes, Belli...).

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    4 years 18/20 plz !!

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    I hope the kid lands here to get his career back on track & help us ring!

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    Nope. Don't get the love. Having a guy who can "body up" Kawhi isn't remotely a concern. This isn't the 00s anymore. You don't win by putting your one-on-one defender on a guy and letting them go to work. Kawhi's a throwback player for sure, but he's only one guy, and it's probably still better to guard him with a team rather than a guy. Moreover, I wasn't really that impressed with Stan's defense. Kawhi seemed to let the contact get to him and tried to match like with like. He should have backed up and tried to go downhill rather than trying to post up. I assume Leonard learned how to go against Johnson as their teams' series went on.

    I mean, I'm not against any flier PATFO wants to take. Maybe Stan can learn to shoot and become an everyday starting four. Sign me up for that. But him doing okay against a guy who isn't even in the team's division doesn't feel worth the money and roster spot when they have a legit rotation spot they should be trying to fill.
    Don't follow, tbh. It's not just Neph, the Spurs obviously had issues defending the majority of wing players. When the current backup small forward is Belinelli, I'd say a player who can defend that position classifies as a need.

    It's fine if you don't like SJ specifically. He's admittedly a mediocre prospect worth only worth something like $6 million over two years. If any of the rumors are true that he's hardheaded and doesn't listen to coaching, I'd be okay with the Spurs crossing him off their list. But in theory, he's in the ballpark of player that would help the Spurs, IMO.

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    Don't follow, tbh. It's not just Neph, the Spurs obviously had issues defending the majority of wing players. When the current backup small forward is Belinelli, I'd say a player who can defend that position classifies as a need.

    It's fine if you don't like SJ specifically. He's admittedly a mediocre prospect worth only worth something like $6 million over two years. If any of the rumors are true that he's hardheaded and doesn't listen to coaching, I'd be okay with the Spurs crossing him off their list. But in theory, he's in the ballpark of player that would help the Spurs, IMO.
    Side note to this - where’s the value in signing him to 2/6? If he’s willing to take 3-4 years at that price isn’t that the value play? If he improves at all he’s locked in. If he doesn’t? Not to big of a deal on your cap

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    Side note to this - where’s the value in signing him to 2/6? If he’s willing to take 3-4 years at that price isn’t that the value play? If he improves at all he’s locked in. If he doesn’t? Not to big of a deal on your cap
    I'm just assuming he'd want a shorter deal so he can hit the free agent market again quicker. It'd cost more per year to get a player like him to sign for longer.

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    This guy seems to fit the Bowen profile when the Spurs got him.

    Undervalued by an ambitious team in transition (Bowen/Miami, Johnson/NOP).

    Great defender.

    Potential to become a 3-point shooter (his latest % with NO was his best, finally over 30%). Chip awaits.

    I get a good feeling from this guy.

    The Spurs could be going with waves of unknown athletes, all playing in a unique system (i.e., any system at all).

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    Timeline wise, he fits.

    I say go for it. I think Brian Wright knows his situation very well.

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