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    Underwhelming.

    Feels like they're just re-arranging the deck chairs on the anic.

    Internal growth + another year from Derozan doesn't inspire feelings of le contention.
    le contention is a pipe dream with this group. Getting homecourt advantage in the first round would be an achievement for our roster.

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    le contention is a pipe dream with this group. Getting homecourt advantage in the first round would be an achievement for our roster.
    Agreed on it being a pipe dream.

    It's really disappointing to see the team employ the "run it back" philosophy when Tim, Tony, and Manu aren't walking through that door. Really don't understand why they think a one size fits all approach works with the current roster make up.

    Even if one thinks they were caught off-guard by the Kawhi episode, they've done nothing to alter the lineup into something that makes more sense.

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    Underwhelming.

    Feels like they're just re-arranging the deck chairs on the anic.

    Internal growth + another year from Derozan doesn't inspire feelings of le contention.
    Exactly. Another year of Dumbmar really dampens my enthusiasm. Besides, it feels like Pop’s aim now is to show how he can win with old Rators.
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    Agreed on it being a pipe dream.

    It's really disappointing to see the team employ the "run it back" philosophy when Tim, Tony, and Manu aren't walking through that door. Really don't understand why they think a one size fits all approach works with the current roster make up.

    Even if one thinks they were caught off-guard by the Kawhi episode, they've done nothing to alter the lineup into something that makes more sense.
    You are nailing it tonight.

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    You are nailing it tonight.
    Bend over and I'll show you nailing it tonight

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    Bend over and I'll show you nailing it tonight
    Lmfao. Best response to a guy giving a compliment to you

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    Bend over and I'll show you nailing it tonight
    You are hostile because I agree with you?

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    You are hostile because I agree with you?
    It's a joke, calm down

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    You are hostile because I agree with you?
    It's a joke, calm down

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    great value deal, but I still hope they make a trade and tighten up the guard rotation. Right now the roster is very deep, which is good for the regular season, but I'd rather see a 2 for 1 player trade and then sign somebody with the remaining 3.3 million of the MLE that's left

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    You are hostile because I agree with you?
    It's the "that's what she said" of ST.

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    I'm frustrated if the Spurs don't do anything else with the rest of the MLE. If they can fit in Milutinov (I would be surprised if they can) or bring in Singleton (I would be surprised if they did), then I get it. But I'm just not sure Carroll can do the job they need him to do (starting PF). I don't disagree it's a fine deal, value-wise. But if they could have gotten a better player for the whole MLE, they should have done it. That could just be wasted value. I mean sure, it could be useful for giving a prospect a three-year deal or outbidding teams who can only offer the min for a buyout candidate. But unless Carroll has his best seasons in years, I don't know if this improves the teams at all. Let's hope he can at least hold down the fort next year so that Samanic can get his feet out from under him.

    Independent of my wariness over giving this deal to Carroll, I like the Spurs giving two-year deals to their new guys. They will have money in the summer of 2021 with only Murray as the likely large contract on the books (though Poeltl's might also be notable if he stays). They should do whatever it takes to open a championship window around DeRozan and Aldridge, so long as they keep the best two or three of their young guys and make whichever trades they make count. The path seems pretty clear now: Give it the old college try for two years and then retool.

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    Demarre Carroll is a good defensive 3 and D wing, who can step in and replace guys like Pondexter Bertans etc.

    defensively through the draft and free agency and getting guys back they’re already WAY better.

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    Signing Carroll is an old tactic. Say Dejounte takes the best, Carroll takes the second best. That allows you to his DeRozan on the team’s worst guys’d and he’s got more juice for the offensive end. Also at the end of the year DeRozan was competent enough to defend a team’s third or fourth best floor guy. That’s more than anything this does. It increases your overall profile and hides the warts to some other guys.

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    I think I am happier with Demarre at his current price and contract length than if the Spurs paid more for other guys such as Aminu.

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    Only way the team will really get better at this point (as in raising their ceiling) is from improvement and contribution from the youngins. I kind of already knew this and at least they have youth that’s exciting to watch and I liked their draft choices.

    Demarre doesn’t move the needle but gives them depth and size they didn’t have last season. Solid but unspectacular.

    I know aome fans fans are disappointed with trades they wanted and didn’t happen. I myself find it difficult to believe in this team while Demar is in it tbh. So it is what it is. In the youngins I trust.

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    Bruce Bowen played another 5 seasons as a starter from the age 32 forward and did not play for the Spurs until he was 30. Carroll plays hard every minute on the floor and will energize the youth to do the same. He is exactly what the Spurs needed and will surprise many.

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    Still think a 2 for 1 trade that nets you a solid 3 or 4 in the rotation is necessary.....

    Ideally, it's Beli and Bertans for somebody but I'd be happy with Forbes/Bertans too (Lonnie NEEDS to be locked in for 20+ mins a night at minimum).....

    I'd go to Miami to see if they'd do James Johnson for Beli/Bertans.....

    Murray/White/Derozan/Johnson/LMA
    Fatty/Walker/Carroll/Gay/Poetl
    Quindarry/Forbes/Johnson/Samancic/Eubanks

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    James Johnson is someone I also wanted to try and get a few years ago. He usually had great games against the Spurs. I thought he could be a great backup SF and/or small ball PF. I also heard that the Spurs had him in for workouts and chat/interview during the off-season a few years ago (maybe before he signed with the Raptors), but I guess they passed, so I wonder what put them off? I still would love to get him if his game hasn't fallen off much.

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    Good signing because it provides a vet presence who will not take priority over the young guys. A full MLE player would, naturally, get minutes over the young kids. It’s a transition signing.

    I suspect they kept enough of the MLE open to sign a vet PG/SG if they’re able to move Mills and/or Belinelli.

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    Underwhelming.

    Feels like they're just re-arranging the deck chairs on the anic.

    Internal growth + another year from Derozan doesn't inspire feelings of le contention.
    was there really an MLE move that would inspire feelings of le contention?

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    His defense has fallen off a cliff

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    His defense has fallen off a cliff
    Great, that is just what I DIDN'T want to hear. I would have been happier if his defense was still decent and his offensive game had fallen off a bit instead.

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    Lol don’t forget to kiss your hand goodnight.

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    was there really an MLE move that would inspire feelings of le contention?
    No, but there were trades that probably could have opened up more space that would. Could have used a future pick(s) + Beli/Bertans/Mills to open up space so then could target a true difference maker.

    Im not saying give up the youth, but using some future assets+lesser core players for cap space was certainly an option if the team was really pressing to compete this year.

    Don’t hate what happened, still time for trades (think CHA) but SA was not going into this off season with the goal to really go for it and there is a strong argument they should have.

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