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    Let's face it: Uncle outplayed everybody.

    Like it or not (and I don't like it a bit), the guy is a genius. A three year plan which included a ring (maybe two), a year's rest, choosing the city and the team and the star to pair with. I mean, this is masterful.

    And BTW he showed why being quiet and not talking to the press (or to people leaking to the press) works out better. Again, I don't like it, but we must give it to the Uncle.
    If Uncle Dennis were any kind of genius he would have done better on his own. His Impact Sports, or whatever its called, is no work of genius.

    None of what you mention was achieved by Uncle Dennis. Kawhi, himself, recruited Paul George. Kawhi, himself, decided to sign with the Clippers.
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    You really know about pro sport business, and business in general, quite obviously.
    And you do? ...you must Dennis
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    Let's face it: Uncle outplayed everybody.

    Like it or not (and I don't like it a bit), the guy is a genius. A three year plan which included a ring (maybe two), a year's rest, choosing the city and the team and the star to pair with. I mean, this is masterful.

    And BTW he showed why being quiet and not talking to the press (or to people leaking to the press) works out better. Again, I don't like it, but we must give it to the Uncle.
    lol at the idea of this inexperienced dumbass being any kind of genius.

    Dude cost his nephew millions over millions of dollars, still can't get him any really good deals off court and transformed him into one of, if not THE, most hated player in the league.

    The only reason anyone can say this wasn't a total show by Uncle is because Kawhi is the best ing player in the World and PATFO were dumb enough to trade him to a stacked team.
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    Water is wet.
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    Leonard is damn near 30 years old. It’s all on him. This uncle Dennis thing is fine for comedic value but at the end of the day obviously it is Leonard. The guy is a snake in the grass. Now they got a taste of it as well. At least they got a championship. Good for them. Now back to the lottery.
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    The Slipper's can deal with that problem now, we didn't want it and neither did Masai.
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    And you do? ...you must Dennis
    clearly so much more than you....But feel free to relax and enjoy ignorance, will not do good to your wallet though.
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    Nephew & Uncle will basically be responsible for ending guaranteed contracts in the NBA. No play, no pay... regardless of reason. Demand a trade, sit out a year and team gets salary waiver to sign other player or pay team back.
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    Leonard's sister had an instagram post lashing out at Toronto fans being upset at her autist brother for leaving. Her lashing out included the opinion that the Spurs "Screwed" her precious brother over by sending him him anywhere but LA and Toronto should be happy about the one year rental
    I believe you, but any chance you got a link? Please? Need to send it to someone else...
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    Hi don't blame Kawhi or his uncle for what they did this summer. He was a free agent and is en led to sign with any team he wants. I don't think he broke any rules there. My real issue is the way he cheated the Spurs. They lied about Kawhi's injury. They cheated the contract obligations they had with the spurs. Spurs cooperated with all of Kawhi's request. Spurs agreed when Kawhi wanted his own specialist/doctor. Spurs are paying the guy and their team doctors wanted to see how kawhi is doing but what did he do, he hid from the team and didn't show face. The spurs players wanted to know how he was doing but his sensitive ass took offense to it. He got paid over 20M for lying and cheating. He lied and cheated the Spurs and thats my biggest issue with him. Kawhi will get Karma I believe. I just feel bad for the Clippers that Kawhi's karma will hit them as well.
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    Leonard is damn near 30 years old. It’s all on him. This uncle Dennis thing is fine for comedic value but at the end of the day obviously it is Leonard. The guy is a snake in the grass. Now they got a taste of it as well. At least they got a championship. Good for them. Now back to the lottery.
    He's 30 with a 15 year old brain, you don't need to be a in Sherlock Holmes to figure that out. He's a puppet and uncle runs the show. Uncle does everything behind the scenes
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    Masai took the risk and it paid off...what’s unfortunate is the best case scenario happened and he still lost Kawhi..

    All that did was just show Kawhi and his camps true colors. They wanted LA no matter what...Spurs could’ve offered the super max...he signed...they ring.. he 100% demands a trade.

    The “injury” was just a way to weasel out of a top flight organization without really looking like a he really is. Being homesick isn’t a justifiable reason to get out of a contract with your employer.

    The SA organization knew this...now maybe the Raptors do as well.
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    clearly so much more than you....But feel free to relax and enjoy ignorance, will not do good to your wallet though.
    Believe me son...totally relaxed here...and my wallet is doing just fine
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    Guys like Uncle Dennis and Rich Paul are changing the rules of the game. I think, historically, there was almost a gentleman's approach taken when it came to most negotiations between teams and players' agents/representatives, and certainly when it came to honoring commitments, you saw most players follow through. We definitely had exceptions over the years, but not nearly what happens now. As far back as the Lew Alcindor days we saw guys demanding trades while still under contract, but in the case of Kareem, he earned a negative reputation from that event, that, compounded with his personality and at ude at times, haunted him his whole career, in spite of his success. Now, guys like Rich Paul and Uncle Dennis are playing with a ruthlessness that is going to ultimately leave teams powerless when it comes to any sort of long-term planning, or an even playing field for teams in the league as more and more agents and players follow suit. And it appears, because it causes social media to blow up when the drama unfolds, Adam Silver and the NBA see these antics as a ratings booster and so they'll sit back and watch, smile, and do nothing about it.

    IMO, something will need to change, because even though it's kind of exciting for fans to watch all the drama unfold from the sidelines, I think there's going to be long-term consequences for franchises in this league. Small market teams will suffer. Fans won't know who to root for. Fan loyalty will dwindle. And, ultimately, I think our short attention-span public will get bored with the NBA, and it's ever-growing core of prima donnas, and move on to something else. Teams like San Antonio don't stand a chance in an environment like this one, long-term, because every time we groom a talent they'll leave for a bigger market. Small market teams will be the bottom feeders, and we'll be back to the days that we're watching the same 2 or 3 elite franchises pile up championships while everyone else is out in the cold.

    I hope guys like Murray prove me wrong. I hope he develops into a super star and stays here. Not because we pay him a super-max contract, but because he wants to build something great in San Antonio.
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    Meh... if Durant and Klay stay healthy, the Warriors probably win the series and nobody's talking about the Uncle being a "genius."
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    Quadriceps tendinopathy, apparently with its ultimate origin in a deep thigh bruise suffered on 3/23/2016 against the Miami Heat, which caused Leonard to miss the next three games. So they say.

    Of course the medical details have not been publicly released, nor should they be, since it is private medical information. If Leonard's private medical information could be released to the public then so could yours.
    There has to be some level of detail in 2017-2018 when an entire season is essentially missed. The Spurs stated Tendiopathy at the time the transition happened to the "Groups" medical team in the summer of 2017. There was nothing else, the ankle healed and this was a condition - not an injury. 73 games were missed for a condition that is not serious enough to miss an entire season. There was no transparency on the situation, but a thigh bruise from 2016 ain't cuttin it 18 months later. Neph has had an issue with patella tendonitis his ENTIRE pro career BTW.

    When a player has no obvious injury (requiring surgery) and misses way more games than he should, there is a credibility issue. The "group" was allowed all the room they asked for the entire 2017-2018 season and they abused that while forcing their way out of town. The situation was exploited by the "Group" and the Spurs backed off. Then they got stabbed in the back by the collection of snakes.
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    I believe you, but any chance you got a link? Please? Need to send it to someone else...
    I saw it in one of the KL threads on spurstalk I think. It was a sister and she kind of ran some social media for KL in the past (not well or current BTW).
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    More leaks from Raptors writers:
    https://www.tsn.ca/talent/raptors-fo...zrl_jLNHNeIj6A

    "Robertson has a reputation for being hard to deal with and would have been hands on throughout the process. According to sources, Leonard and his camp – namely Uncle Dennis – asked for a lot from the Raptors in that meeting, things players don’t generally ask for in standard contract negotiations.

    In some cases, they were asking for things that Ujiri – one of the most well-compensated executives in the league – wouldn’t have even had at his disposal. Their requests were “unreasonable”, a source said, which made the Raptors wonder whether Leonard was seriously considering them at all."
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    Nephew and his uncle are snakes.
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    Let's face it: Uncle outplayed everybody.

    Like it or not (and I don't like it a bit), the guy is a genius. A three year plan which included a ring (maybe two), a year's rest, choosing the city and the team and the star to pair with. I mean, this is masterful.

    And BTW he showed why being quiet and not talking to the press (or to people leaking to the press) works out better. Again, I don't like it, but we must give it to the Uncle.
    Outplayed?

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    There has to be some level of detail in 2017-2018 when an entire season is essentially missed. The Spurs stated Tendiopathy at the time the transition happened to the "Groups" medical team in the summer of 2017. There was nothing else, the ankle healed and this was a condition - not an injury. 73 games were missed for a condition that is not serious enough to miss an entire season. There was no transparency on the situation, but a thigh bruise from 2016 ain't cuttin in for 18 months later. Neph has had an issue with patella tendonitis his ENTIRE pro career BTW.

    When a player has no obvious injury (requiring surgery) and misses way more games than he should, there is a credibility issue. The "group" was allowed all the room they asked for the entire 2017-2018 season and they abused that while forcing their way out of town. The situation was exploited by the "Group" and the Spurs backed off. Then they got stabbed in the back by the collection of snakes.
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    Outplayed?

    so what? you think he cannot make back those money multiple times? do you have any idea of the business opportunities he'll get in LA with the proximity to Ballmer?

    (ask Nowitzki why he never left Cuban)
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    so what? you think he cannot make back those money multiple times? do you have any idea of the business opportunities he'll get in LA with the proximity to Ballmer?

    (ask Nowitzki why he never left Cuban)
    You're really comparing $118 million guaranteed to possibly making it back and then some? Who knows, maybe he does get a bigger shoe deal being in LA and maybe he does get in on some good investments...but until that happens his bank teller Uncle (which is all he was before he coattailed Neph's greatness) is anything but a genius.
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    More leaks from Raptors writers:
    https://www.tsn.ca/talent/raptors-fo...zrl_jLNHNeIj6A

    "Robertson has a reputation for being hard to deal with and would have been hands on throughout the process. According to sources, Leonard and his camp – namely Uncle Dennis – asked for a lot from the Raptors in that meeting, things players don’t generally ask for in standard contract negotiations.

    In some cases, they were asking for things that Ujiri – one of the most well-compensated executives in the league – wouldn’t have even had at his disposal. Their requests were “unreasonable”, a source said, which made the Raptors wonder whether Leonard was seriously considering them at all."
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    Uncle Dennis was told there would be elephants. That is disappointing.
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