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    MB made a good point about Rasho. If the Spurs do succeed in trading him, they'd suddenly be a big man short. They could go with Marks, but Marks gets hurt more than Marcus Camby.

    Then what?

    Good thing the Spurs don't have Udonis Haslem, Jr. as the 14th man, right Spurs fans?


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    Again, the Spurs have carried at least 2 on IR forever.

    Radoslav and Beno are on the active roster.

    This year they have one on reserve. So what? They don't need Ford. Like five guys would have to go down before he played. There's no getting through to you.

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    I don't think money was the only issue with Ford.
    He plays good but Spurs have still 6 PF/C this season and way better big men prospect in Europe (Scola, Javtokas and Mahinmi).
    If Spurs invited for the camp 1PG, 3SG/SF and 1PF, it's because they were looking on a swingman.
    None of the 3 SG/SF play well enough to spend $1.5M for.
    Ford plays good but Spurs needn't a PF.
    You can't keep a player only because he has the nba level without any roster consideration.
    If Nobody claims him from waivers, there is a reason : he is not that good.

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    From a depth perspective it isn't good but I look at it more from a talent/prospecting angle. Why handicap one of the best talent evaluation staffs in the league over what is a pittance in the NBA? That is asinine. If you have the opportunity to find and develop more talent why stop that just because your team is stacked today?

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    Boy its just absolute misery to be a Spurs fan isn't it??

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    Boy its just absolute misery to be a Spurs fan isn't it??

    Just wait till Ford schools us in the Western Conf. Finals. Then we'll all be kissing MB's ass.

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    Last year we had 2 real centers in Rash and Nazr with Duncan playing some as well. Heck we only got Nazr for the last 1/3 of the season.

    Now, all of a sudden, with Oberto, Nazr, Rash, and Duncan playing some center - we'll have some gaping hole at the Center position if we trade Rash. I think it will take some time for Oberto to learn the ropes which is why I don't think Rash will be traded, if at all, until closer to the trade dead-line when the Spurs have a clearer picture of what Oberto brings to the table. I think Rash stays until next year's off-season at any rate, when the whole Rash vs. Nazr thing plays itself out. But losing Rash this season would hardly leave a big-man void that could only be filled by Ford.

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    This year they have one on reserve. So what? They don't need Ford. Like five guys would have to go down before he played. There's no getting through to you.
    So what? That hasn't been an issue before. Apparently you cannot understand the advantage of taking a young player and developing him on IR.

    Remember Stephen Jackson? Thank you.

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    Just wait till Ford schools us in the Western Conf. Finals. Then we'll all be kissing MB's ass.
    Just wait until when you find a clue.

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    If you have the opportunity to find and develop more talent why stop that just because your team is stacked today?
    They aren't only stacked this year but in the years to come too.
    Javtokas will likely come next year, Mahinmi in one or two years and maybe Scola one day.
    The only thing I regret is that Spurs doesn't sign another SG/SF as 14th man.

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    If the Spurs are so damn cheap.

    How come they signed Michael Finley at 2.5 or 2.7 million

    when they coulda kep Devin at 2.

    Cheaper, plays the same position.


    Once again, if they are so cheap, why didn't they do that?

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    Last year we had 2 real centers in Rash and Nazr with Duncan playing some as well. Heck we only got Nazr for the last 1/3 of the season.

    Now, all of a sudden, with Oberto, Nazr, Rash, and Duncan playing some center - we'll have some gaping hole at the Center position if we trade Rash. I think it will take some time for Oberto to learn the ropes which is why I don't think Rash will be traded, if at all, until closer to the trade dead-line when the Spurs have a clearer picture of what Oberto brings to the table. I think Rash stays until next year's off-season at any rate, when the whole Rash vs. Nazr thing plays itself out. But losing Rash this season would hardly leave a big-man void that could only be filled by Ford.

    coopdogg3

    I'm not too concerned about depth this season, but there is something to consider. If you see TD getting 35 minutes a night and Horry getting around 15, that leaves 46 minutes for the other bigs. That's a rather significant chunk of time.

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    So what? That hasn't been an issue before. Apparently you cannot understand the advantage of taking a young player and developing him on IR.

    Remember Stephen Jackson? Thank you.

    yeah, but we don't need to do that this year. There's plenty of Fords out there.

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    They aren't only stacked this year but in the years to come too.
    Javtokas will likely come next year, Mahinmi in one or two years and maybe Scola one day.
    The only thing I regret is that Spurs doesn't sign another SG/SF as 14th man.
    There's a reason they haven't done that.

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    They aren't only stacked this year but in the years to come too.
    Javtokas will likely come next year, Mahinmi in one or two years and maybe Scola one day.
    Funny I was just saying to LJ that they AREN'T stacked for years to come. This year's bench is pretty old. And the only one of the overseas players that I see ever coming is MAYBE Mahinmi in 3 years or so. I'm not worried about the Spurs at all, but I wish they'd eventually get that young, athletic forward here to start grooming. Pop talked about it a lot in the last two offseasons but it still hasn't materialized.

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    yeah, but we don't need to do that this year. There's plenty of Fords out there.

    Oh sure, it's so easy to land talent that is needed. Just like when the Spurs needed a small forward back in '99....

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    Remember Stephen Jackson? Thank you.
    Stephen jackson played one season in nba with 635 pts before signing with Spurs. Not the same case.

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    Funny I was just saying to LJ that they AREN'T stacked for years to come. This year's bench is pretty old. And the only one of the overseas players that I see ever coming is MAYBE Mahinmi in 3 years or so. I'm not worried about the Spurs at all, but I wish they'd eventually get that young, athletic forward here to start grooming. Pop talked about it a lot in the last two offseasons but it still hasn't materialized.

    No kidding. The swing rotation consists of 3 guys aged 32 and up.

    And again, so what if the team is stacked this year? What the is wrong with bringing in a couple of young guys to develop for the future? Why is everyone so concerned about seeing the ownership group make a few extra $? Are you guys basketball fans?

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    Stephen jackson played one season in nba with 635 pts before signing with Spurs. Not the same case.
    Close enough. He was looking to stay in the league after Byron Scott basically said he was uncoachable. He played on the Spurs' summerleague team, looking for a job. That's hardly what you would expect someone who wasn't on the bubble in the league to do.

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    Oh sure, it's so easy to land talent that is needed. Just like when the Spurs needed a small forward back in '99....

    Ford is a mediocre rookie. Why are you all over his nuts?

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    If the Spurs are so damn cheap.

    How come they signed Michael Finley at 2.5 or 2.7 million

    when they coulda kep Devin at 2.

    Cheaper, plays the same position.


    Once again, if they are so cheap, why didn't they do that?

    Actually, Devin's price was $2.5 mil.

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    I don't really know the answer to this, but do Spurs fans think Sean Marks is better than Sharrod Ford? And, if not, is Marks still here instead of Ford just because he's really well-liked?

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    Ford is a mediocre rookie. Why are you all over his nuts?
    It's not just about Ford. It's about not taking on young prospects and trying to develop them because of a paltry sum in the NBA. Is this not clear?

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    I'm not too concerned about depth this season, but there is something to consider. If you see TD getting 35 minutes a night and Horry getting around 15, that leaves 46 minutes for the other bigs. That's a rather significant chunk of time.

    /shrug. 23 minutes to Oberto, 23 minutes to Nazr doesn't seem that tough. Heck give Marks a few minutes and move Oberto to PF for 5-6 minutes a game. Trading Rash (unless it's for another big), and then having an injury hit Oberto or Nazr would be tough to swallow. That's why I don't see anything happening until next year as far as Rash is concerned.

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    It's not just about Ford. It's about not taking on young prospects and trying to develop them because of a paltry sum in the NBA. Is this not clear?

    Oh, I'm sure you'd like to develop Ford's "young prospects."






















































































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