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    Um, welcome to the subject. Pop and RC wanted Brown and/or Evans. Holt said no.
    Really? You were a key figure in their discussions I see.


    It's fairly obvious. But recognizing that isn't your strong suit.
    So Pop can get Holt to sign Parker to a big ass contract extention but he can't get Holt to sign Brown or Evans?

    Is that what you're tell me?

    It seems Pop has less power than you thought.

    Or maybe Pop just didn't think they were a need.

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    More like $1.5 mil per.
    For three years = $4.5 million, genius.

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    Really? You were a key figure in their discussions I see.
    If you were paying attention you would know.


    So Pop can get Holt to sign Parker to a big ass contract extention but he can't get Holt to sign Brown or Evans?

    Is that what you're tell me?

    It seems Pop has less power than you thought.
    Seems like Pop's being limited and he had to fight tooth and nail to get Holt to do the obvious and extend Parker before he got a max offer the following offseason.

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    For three years = $4.5 million, genius.
    $1.5 mil per is more germane, Einstein.

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    Seems like Pop's being limited and he had to fight tooth and nail to get Holt to do the obvious and extend Parker before he got a max offer the following offseason.
    So Pop seeing how Parker was a need for the team in order to continue to repeat fought tooth and nail with Holt to get him an extention instead of try and get him as a FA.

    Yet Pop didn't fight tooth and nail for Brown or Evans?

    Hmmm.....

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    $1.5 mil per is more germane, Einstein.
    4.5 is the total deal, which matters more to an owner.

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    Yeah, he signed their offer for $1.5 mil, the LLE or less.

    Evans is 6'5" and 220.
    Listed at 6'5" which means 6'4"at most. Spurs need somebody 6'7" to 6'9" athletic, strong defense minded to guard the Melos, Artests, Lewises, not another 6'4" shooting guard. There are a dozen Maurice Evans up for grabs every year.

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    So Pop seeing how Parker was a need for the team in order to continue to repeat fought tooth and nail with Holt to get him an extention instead of try and get him as a FA.

    Yet Pop didn't fight tooth and nail for Brown or Evans?

    Hmmm.....
    Pop wanted at least one of them. When he couldn't knock some sense into Holt he tried to move the ageless Barry to keep Brown.

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    $1.5 mil per is more germane, Einstein.
    $3 million per is more germane if you really want to be pissy about it.

    Exactly when does Mo crack the rotation over the four other swingmen? After his deal is up?

    Is he a true small forward?

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    4.5 is the total deal, which matters more to an owner.

    Not as much when the owner is fixated on the lux tax threshold.

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    Pop wanted at least one of them. When he couldn't knock some sense into Holt he tried to move the ageless Barry to keep Brown.
    I see. So what else can you tell us oh great insider...



    I'm sure that's "exactly" how it all went down.

    How can I think otherwise, you're the one sharing all this insider type info with us.

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    $3 million is more germaine if you really want to be pissy about it.

    Exactly when does Mo crack the rotation over the four other swingmen? After his deal is up?

    Is he a true small forward?

    How much longer is Barry going to be useful? Since when did $1.5 mil per really become that big of a deal for a franchise that was willing to take on $9 mil in one case and $6.7 mil in another for players unwanted otherwise?

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    I see. So what else can you tell us oh great insider...



    I'm sure that's "exactly" how it all went down.

    How can I think otherwise, you're the one sharing all this insider type info with us.

    Uh that's what transpired this offseason. Not really inside info.

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    Not as much when the owner is fixated on the lux tax threshold.
    But doesn't a bigger total deal mean a large per year salary? Yes, sometimes the contract is back heavy, but usually they're not. BUt eventually they will be.

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    How much longer is Barry going to be useful?
    Can you answer that?
    Since when did $1.5 mil per really become that big of a deal for a franchise that was willing to take on $9 mil in one case and $6.7 mil in another for players unwanted otherwise?
    When it becomes $3 million per for a guy who will never see the floor.

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    Actually, my bad. The Spurs took on $19 mil over 2 seasons for a player who they really didn't want.

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    Can you answer that?
    35 year old perimeter player who was oft paralyzed with fear in the postseason and who was beat out by DBrown for his spot in the rotation.


    When it becomes $3 million per for a guy who will never see the floor.
    Again, they've paid more to make guys go away.

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    The a scary part is that Spurs fans will about ownership when the team has won three les in 7 years and is favored to repeat.

    Damn, should have gone with the Paul Allen type ownership formula.

    You know, the kind that pays Derek Anderson a bunch of money to play on their team for 6 years.

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    The a scary part is that Spurs fans will about ownership when the team has won three les in 7 years and is favored to repeat.
    The scary thing is that you can't distinguish between the contribution made by the management vis a vis ownership.

    Damn, should have gone with the Paul Allen type ownership formula.

    Nah, just an owner who will listen to his basketball people.

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    35 year old perimeter player who was oft paralyzed with fear in the postseason and who was beat out by DBrown for his spot in the rotation.
    So your answer is last season? I'll let whott deal with that.
    Again, they've paid more to make guys go away.
    Yeah, they signed those guys as free agents when they were over the tax threshold and had no intention of their playing ever.

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    The scary thing is that you can't distinguish between the contribution made by the management vis a vis ownership.
    It's all connected dip .

    It's one big circuit.

    Nah, just an owner who will listen to his basketball people.
    You mean internet geeks like you?

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    Connected? Not really. As long as Holt Cat listened to management there wasn't a problem.

    Geek? Um, ok.

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    Kinda hard to turn down an offer that wasn't made.
    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24848

    Yell Uncle.

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    Connected? Not really. As long as Holt Cat listened to management there wasn't a problem.


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    Your attempt to on the Spurs ownership has failed.

    NeXt.

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