Since it got hidden in the last page, I'll ask again:
Ghost, how much (if anything) do you think we should pay Horry. What should we do with the capspace Horry would cost?
a trade for talent....
didn't the spurs look to trade for talent all of last week, thus the reasoning behind telling horry to wait til monday.
i think the FO has a plan, and it might change on a day to day basis. but I won't every step of the way.
if at the end of the day(offseason), the spurs still don't have a backup point. another quality shooter, especially if jax walks...where he would go i have no idea....then i'll say what's up with that....until then....
I would offer Horry like $2 million.
My first priority would still be to get Odom.
Then I would work on retaining Claxton.
Like I said before, if we're gonna pay Horry that much, make him our primary frontcourt backup and trade Rose or Bowen to get Sprewell.
I want an overall talent upgrade and a backup PG before we go throwing all kinds of money at crap bench players.
"Crap" is strong for Horry, but his best days are clearly behind him.
Manny - LA still has Bird rights on Horry. They can offer him as much as they want.
Yeah 2Cleva, but are they willing to pay him more money to add more payroll to an already capped out team. I thought Jerry Buss didn't want to pay a lot, if any on the luxury taxes.
LA didn't take the option on Horry because of Lux Tax concerns. But yes, they do still have his Bird Rights. You are not going to get Horry on the cheap.
There isn't much of a reason to about $5 mil for one season. But no doubt that Ghost will use it to cry like a baby today.
GW,
where in my post do I say that I want Horry for 5M? I agree with you that he is washed up. I never said he was a star either. He is however a big name (aging FA), because he hit clutch shots for both houston and la.
you are the one who needs better reading comprehension.
I would love to bring Speedy back, but I am a realist and don't think it will happen.
Odem would be nice if he didn't have a dope problem. Because of this he is not and option. Deal with it
I am surprised that you are not selling Spree for Malik or Jackson though.
I thought that since Horry was released from his contract, team did not pick up next season's option, that la gave up his bird rigths?
Go Spurs...
I thought they lost bird rights when they didn't pick up his optoin?
The idea of making Horry our primary big doesn't make me at all excited. Rose >>>>>>>> Horry as far as backup 4s go.
It looks like the Spurs are no longer interested in Odom due to character concerns, and ALSPURS posted at another site that he spoke with Speedy at Six Flags in NJ a few weeks ago and Speedy said it looks like he won't be a Spur.
Lamar Odom?
Why sign a guy for big money thats only gonna play 20 games because of drug problems and injuries.
No thanks.
Speedy is gone, get over it. DEAL WITH IT!
He doesnt want to be a back up point anymore!
Signing Horry would be HUGE!
I like Bob coming off the bench.
Solid LOW POST scorer, still a good defender, will get his shot back after resting this offseason, GREAT rebounder still.
He showed in the Spurs series that if he can get some rest, that he can STILL be a good player.
This signing would be a Cou.
But I dont like how he might be trying to get more money from the Lakers.
I am open to a Sprewell trade.
Horry is done and is not worth $5 million.
He is not done.
Sheesh.
He played wayyyy too many minutes in the regular season, he had nothing left in the tank.
He still has a great shot and is a solid rebounder and defender.
Yeah, I wanted to go after Odom, but that looks a bit less likely now that Arenas looks to be going to the Wiz. We'd get in a bidding war with Miami anyway and lose just like we did with Brand.
Even if we do pay Horry $5 million we still have a crapwad of money to overpay Claxton.
And yes, we did pay Ferry $4.5 million last year as a thank you for taking the pay cut for the minimum the year before.
We'd be thanking Horry up front.
If a player is asking for a 3-4 year deal and will accept $2-3M/year for the duration ... and you only want to give him a one-year deal (which is basically what a 2-year with 2nd yr team option is) then you have to offer him more money.
That's the concept of a one-year inflated deal.
It's the same thing that we were trying to do with Pippen. Pippen refused -- wanted more guaranteed years. This is what we are doing with Horry -- $5M for one year isn't that bad.
You can't just look at his bad playoffs and write him off as "done". He was overplayed by the Lakers during the season and by postseason time was worn out. He'd be a solid contributor off the bench in limited minutes for the Spurs.
Sign him up.
In regard to Odom, the Spurs explored it. They did background checks, they sent someone out to interview him ... and it appears they decided that he wasn't worth the risk.
Lamar Odom is the next Roy Tarpley.
I think if the Spurs secure Horry for 2 years they may move Malik soon after.
Perhaps a Malik and Jax S&T for Spree with 2 years left.
It seems that the Spurs real focus is 2 years ahead.
When the greatest small forward out there is a free agent.
No not Dirk dumbass!
I think they're eyeballing TMAC, since Spurs seem fixated on a 2 year time line.
That would fit since they really seem like they don't want to commit to the Small Forward spot. Come on they pass on Odem and drag on with Jax.... hmmmm.
With Bowen, Manu and Horry at SF and Manu and Spree at SG you would still be sitting pretty.
I mean where will TMAC want to be if he's still killing himself to get a ring and Grant Hill's still sitting back slamming pills cause his ankle hurts.
Why oh why must it be Horry. I wish there was some other half-way washed up veteran we could overpay for a year to play the 3/4/(?)5 position. I've watched Horry for many years and he doesn't fit in well with the M.O. of the spurs. He is often lazy, and is one of the worst for sportmanship I very honestly have ever seen in the NBA. (And I watched the Pistons in their prime!) Did no one see what he did to DRob and Rose last year in the playoffs and regular season with cheap shots, etc? I have watched the spurs for >20 years and have always been a huge fan, but I will have to cringe every time I see that moron step his foot onto our sacred (albeit new) court. If only there was some way we could pay him $2 million to go live in Iraq for a year I'd be content.
I realize he may add a small contribution to the team, but for the cost of his personality and at ude I can't justify the signing.
-G
Ghost,
>I would offer Horry like $2 million.
LA can match that easy.
> My first priority would still be to get Odom.
What part of the "Clips are finalizing a 5 year contract extension with forward Lamar Odom" don't you comprehend?
And you wanted to trade for Spree today? Yesterday you said he was too old. Good lord man, talk about being all over the map...
AHF
Kori, any update today regarding Horry? If Horry drags this out and turns the Spurs down and more opportunities are lost, I don't know what to do. I wish we could officially get him on the dotted line so we can move on and figure out what to do next...
I haven't talked to anyone this afternoon. Let me see if I can find out anything.Kori, any update today regarding Horry?
Thanks, Kori.
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