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Suns choked, they had the game. Not my fault.Pistons 111 - Sun 104 !!
5-0 and at Portland tonight going for 6!
Talking smack? Who?? If I'm not mistaken a SPURS fan created this thread.
Your post wreaks of Fear, BTW. Not that I think we need to be feared yet, but considering how many anti-piston posts you've made in the last 3 hours it sure looks like you feel threatened. I'm especially fond of the "Go Boston" thread you started, then resorted to empty insults when we stomped on them in the 2nd half.
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Last edited by FreshPrince22; 09-12-2011 at 02:11 PM.
Suns choked, they had the game. Not my fault.Pistons 111 - Sun 104 !!
5-0 and at Portland tonight going for 6!
Pistons could lose to Houston or Dallas.
Honestly if we don't (and I expect us to at least lose 1, those are 2 tough teams for B2B's on the road) this team could have a scary regular season record. Did any of you guys hear Scottie Pippen predict the Pistons to win 70 games?
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Last edited by FreshPrince22; 09-12-2011 at 02:11 PM.
For the record I see the Pistons as a very, very good team but not one to be "feared" versus this Spurs team.
Why?
1) The Spurs now have a healthy, more mobile and seemingly even more motivated Tim Duncan. That is by far the most significant reason and he alone is the reason that the Spurs when all said and done will be even stronger this year.
2) Quietly, Tony Parker is having a start that is almost as impressive as Billups and more importantly, is showing steady play and he is now backed up by Van Exel - a stud for a reserve PG.
3) Manu Ginobilii after a sluggish start is start to play like Manu again and he counters the brilliance of Richard Hamilton - which would be matchup of the two still most under-rated swingmen in the game.
4) The Spurs are simply deeper this year and like the Pistons are motivated to prove something, i. e. they can complete a back to back.
5) Unlike the Lakers of a few years back (during their tripeat years) the Pistons have not single player that you can consistently say cannot be stopped or should be especially "feared". (i.e. a Shaq down low or Kobe who could just go off at times). Perhaps, Billups is the closest thing, but Bowen is the designated stopper for him. R. Wallace and Rick Hamilton have the potential to take over games but Spurs have good defensive matchups on them as well.
5) Most importantly, the Pistons will have to get through the Pacers and potentially also the Heat as very tough teams (the Heat depends on Shaq's health and Walker et. al. not becoming a time bomb out there) to even get to the finals in the East.
If the Pistons do get to the finals vs. the Spurs (who also have to meet a couple of tests along the way including a decent Mavs team, and potentially the Suns if Amare comes back) IT WOULD BE A HECK OF A MATCH UP.
However, sticking with my prediction of the Pacers vs. Spurs as to me the Pacers if they get it going are as deep as any team and were an incredibly tough team despite not having Artest last year and J. O'neals injury.
If I am wrong and it is the Pistons vs. Spurs though I will enjoy that as well!
It would be a matchup for basketball purists and I for one don't give a darn about the ratings. I would see that, like the Pacers, as a very tough series likely to go 6-7 games but have to give the edge to the deeper Spurs and the brilliance of Tim Duncan as they try to win 3 out of 4.
Last edited by Rummpd; 11-16-2005 at 06:20 AM.
Good Post. The pistons still have a lot of questions marks. How will flip handle the Post Season? Is the Pistons bench actually better this year?
Will they stay healthy? What happens when the pistons go on there first losing slid, do they start blaming Flip? The annoying thing is that none of these questions can be answered until the playoffs our over, but hey I guess thats why we watch the games.
But I got say I love our start and am definitely encourage but I have to keep reminding my self that its 82 game season and anything can happen.
You make it hard to hate Pistons fans! You are really not obnoxious like say, most Mavericks fans!!!!
If the Pistons play the remaining 75 games the way they have played the first seven, statistically they would be expected to finish 75-7.
But it's nearly impossible to sustain this level of play over 82 games.
If they could put it in a bottle and whip it back out in a playoff series, I doubt even the Spurs could match their level of play. It is quite impressive.
Then again, the Spurs were playing at a similar level last January, and they had to grind it out in the Finals.
I will say that Spurs fans should not think that the le is in the bag.
Aww thanks Rummpd
I must say though I do enjoy reading this forum most posters on here provide some really good insights and opinions. It's nice to get away and get an outside view from a non-biased perspective.
scary regular season team = Suns last year. and you know how that went.
Pippen is an idiot, he said Flip Saunders is a better coach than larry brown. Maybe in the regular season, but come playoff time, Pistons will miss Larry.
Well welcome to the board lurks! And good luck to your Pistons this year . (except when y'all play us of course!Aww thanks Rummpd
I must say though I do enjoy reading this forum most posters on here provide some really good insights and opinions. It's nice to get away and get an outside view from a non-biased perspective.)
Spurs were a scary regular season team last year as well. And we know how that went too.
Difference between Suns and the Pistons is that the core players on the Pistons have been there, done that in the post season and the Pistons still play defense ... maybe not as great as last year, but they are certainly still capable of playing good d. I'm not saying there are any guarantees with what will happen in the playoffs, but comparing the Pistons to the Suns last year just doesn't seem to be applicable.
Pistons may or may not miss Larry in the playoffs. We'll just have to wait and see when we get there. That's many months away.
Last edited by JamStone; 11-16-2005 at 04:28 PM.
We aren't the Suns. We play defense. That's the reason the Suns lost last year. The Bulls won 72 games in the regular season one year, does that mean they automatically lost in the playoffs? I, for one, think Flip is the better coach for us right now. He will make us better than last year. Does that mean he's a better coach than Larry? Obviously not, but it doesn't mean we cant be better than last year. Larry and Rick's defensive principles are already instilled in our players. Flip's flex offense just allows us to put some more points on the board, by getting easier/quicker baskets.
As the team has shown, just because Larry is gone, doesn't mean they have lost their championship poise. And no, I won't miss Larry putting Tayshaun Prince on Tim Duncan in the 2nd half of game 7 of the Finals. He lost that game for us when he did that, and he will never live it down in my book.
So far, Flip has proven to be nothing but brilliant in his ability to coach. He knows when to ride the hot hand, and ride the hot play. LB was awful at that. And he has always come up with the right play call when we need it to this point. Most importantly, he's always here. No more coaches taking 20 games off mid-season. That alone should improve our record by 5-10 games. Which, last year, is all we would have needed to be back-to-back champs.
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Last edited by FreshPrince22; 09-12-2011 at 02:11 PM.
I didn't compare Detroit to Phoenix, just stating that scary regular season team means nothing. I hope Pistons go to the finals.
But I think at some point in the playoffs, you will be missing Larry Brown, and I don't even like Larry Brown.
Stout, didn't you have us at 76-6 a few days ago? There's some arcane formula you're using to come up with losses in spite of the fact that we have none at this time...care to share it?
And I agree, it's almost unfathomable that we could sustain this level of play.
I'm with most of the rational folks on this one, I just don't see 70 happening. Now if they want to prove me wrong, I'm all for it... as long as they don't fade in the playoffs as others have.
Welcome to the forum MJ, and I agree, I would be shocked by any team winning 70 (60-65 would possibly be attainable by a couple of teams) this year. Anything over 60 would have to be considered an excellent win total,
How are you feeling about that prediction after watching the Bobcats drop 122 on the Pacers last night? In rout to a 32 point thrashing.
Looks like Rick Carlise's vaunted defense left with Mike Brown. We'll see if they can pick up the pieces.
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Last edited by FreshPrince22; 09-12-2011 at 02:11 PM.
Then why even mention last year's Phoenix's regular season record when talking about Detroit's start? You were obviously making inferences.
I don't doubt that the Pistons won't miss Larry Brown at some point in the playoffs. I'm just hoping that the players learned enough under Brown to be poised enough to overcome the coaching change and that the loss of Brown isn't so much to cost the Pistons a playoff series. And, I hope that Flip has learned enough from his past mistakes to give his team the best opportunity to win playoff games and series. I'll maintain that it's still ultimately on the players to execute and perform.
Nov
10 @Phoenix - W
11 @Portland - W
15 Boston - W
18 @Houston - W (Rockets day after Spurs)
19 @Dallas - ? probably most risky, 2nd of road B2B
23 Denver
25 Washington
26 @Milwaukee
30 @New Jersey
The remaining 6 teams will probably all be playoff teams next spring. I think the Pistons have good chance of a loss-less November.
I do a normal regression based upon point differential and the standard deviation thereof.Stout, didn't you have us at 76-6 a few days ago? There's some arcane formula you're using to come up with losses in spite of the fact that we have none at this time...care to share it?
And I agree, it's almost unfathomable that we could sustain this level of play.
Thus far the Pistons are outscoring their opponents by 13.29 +/- 10.24 points, which correlates to a winning percentage of 90.28% (i.e., the portion of the normal curve for which point differential > 0).
Over the next 75 games, that would mean 68 wins, added to the 7 they already have, which yields 75 wins overall.
Meanwhile, the same algorithm predicts the Spurs to go 57-25.
I could make it better by weighting point differential game-by-game based upon the quality of the opponent, but that would be Sagarin-esque and I would expect somebody to pay me for it.
[QUOTE]Thanks for the explanation Stout, what numbers would they have needed in order for them to have received an 82-0 projection?
Or does that fall under JSagarinesque Pay-To-View info?
I have a feeling that Detroit is going to lose at least one of the games on this back to back.
Eight straight, 8-0, five to go for an undefeated Nov and all tough games.
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