View Poll Results: Who should start at PF

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  • Gay

    9 14.75%
  • Lyles

    13 21.31%
  • DeRozan

    30 49.18%
  • Samanic

    9 14.75%
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  1. #51
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    Aldridge going on the low block kills the pace and ball movement. Maybe in the playoffs, sure. But if the guys are trying to play a certain way, Aldridge has to reduce the number of times he's going in the post.
    What's with the adoption of Drew's pic? I haven't seen him around in a while. Hoping he's not sick..

    And what about Zeus? Haven't seen him in a while either, after he posted that he had covid.

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    What's with the adoption of Drew's pic? I haven't seen him around in a while. Hoping he's not sick..

    And what about Zeus? Haven't seen him in a while either, after he posted that he had covid.
    TheDrewShow doesn't get sick with COVID. COVID gets sick with TheDrewShow.

    I don't know what's going on with ZeusWillJudge either. Hope he's okay.

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    I think Pop is going to legit try to make LMA/Poeltl work. My guess is that starting two bigs is his go-to reaction to a bad defensive year. What I hope he realizes is that LMA shooting threes was to make him a more viable center. There's pretty much nothing he could do to be a more viable PF. Poeltl has a lot of pluses, but he has real minuses too, and that shooting isn't even an option for him means he can't play with a second big outside niche match-ups.
    Two bigs has always been his prefernance and he was probably (foolishly) emboldened by the Lakers winning the championship.

    Watch him try in vain to forefeed it for the first 4-5 minutes of each half in the hopes that it'll stabilize the defense and them struggle mightily due to Aldridge's inability to defend "PF's" and the inevitable poor spacing from the dreaded DeRozan, Murray, Poeltl trio.

    The only positive is it'll relegate Lyles to a more appropriate role as 4th big.


    You can't say that you're going to play more up tempo this year and start Gay/LMA/Poeltl or even LMA/Poeltl unless he's gone truly senile... which I wouldn't doubt at this point.
    Pace doesn't just mean pushing the ball, but making quicker (.5) dribble/pass/shoot decisions in the half court and the ony other viable alternative is Lyles. People read way too much into a 7 game (DeRozan sat the 8th) sample size in a unique environment.

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    LMFAO @ starting DeMar at PF... Dude carried us straight to the lottery as a sf and you wanna put him in a position where he is worse? Secondly, small teams don't win championships... Small ball doesn't work... We need long, versatile players... DeMar vs anthony davis or zion would be laughable... Get this guy off the team already
    there you are. I was wondering where you was hiding at when Reports came out that your lover nephew messed up the Clippers team culture

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    Chinook is right. looks like pop is pretty set in his ways... Aldridge and Poeltl are going to start. aldridge shooting more 3's instead of getting muh touches from the elbow should be a good thing, though. still, i'd much rather have him as the center in a pick and pop/roll situation.

    with that said, we dont really have any great options to start at the 4 if LMA was the 5. it would basically be between Lyles and Gay, and Gay is best served coming off the bench, while Lyles is just bad

    you'd hope that your first round pick from a season ago would be ready to start... but alas he is not

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    The Spurs have plenty of options to start at the 4 that isn't LMA/Lyles/Gay but the old man is too stubborn/senile to make the commitment. The answer to OPs question is Derozan btw but it really doesn't matter when you have the worst coach in the NBA at the helm

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    The two bigs starting 5 is not written in stone yet. I understand the Pop-reaction-to-a-bad-defensive-year" argument and I look at it as a classic Popovich reaction as well... but it's been just a preseason game.

    Three bigs, two guards, small ball... No fixed first or second units... I believe the coach just wanted to try a bunch of line-ups and observe players in different scenarios. That's a usual preseason exercise for Popovich.

    Regarding the poll, Trey Liles is the best fit: the only decent defensive option at the PF, he doesn't need too many shots, his range benefits the spacing and most of all, he doesn't have any big hole on his game. Rudy Gay is a terrible defender and his best skill, scoring, is not really needed in the starting 5. Keldon/DeRozan could play the PF eventually but they can't start at PF IMO, because of size and its consecuences over the team defense and rebounding.

    D White and K Johson's injuries won't allow Popovich to run his preffered rotation until the start of the RS. I expect more experiments in both games vs HOU.

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    Lyles covers LA weakness in Rebounding and Rim Protection it's the most logical play if you are starting LA. Derozan + Aldridge is a layup line.

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    Two bigs has always been his prefernance and he was probably (foolishly) emboldened by the Lakers winning the championship.

    Watch him try in vain to forefeed it for the first 4-5 minutes of each half in the hopes that it'll stabilize the defense and them struggle mightily due to Aldridge's inability to defend "PF's" and the inevitable poor spacing from the dreaded DeRozan, Murray, Poeltl trio.

    The only positive is it'll relegate Lyles to a more appropriate role as 4th big.




    Pace doesn't just mean pushing the ball, but making quicker (.5) dribble/pass/shoot decisions in the half court and the ony other viable alternative is Lyles. People read way too much into a 7 game (DeRozan sat the 8th) sample size in a unique environment.
    We don’t have the players with the necessary IQ and maturity to play that style of game so yeah they should be pushing the ball.

    And some people here need to stop putting Lyles as the second coming of Diaw or Horry. The guy sucks.

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    I don’t get it why some people here act like Lyles is the only option. First of all he’s not a good defender, he’s average at best. Besides that PF is not a strong position in this league. Do y’all really think DeRozan can’t guard players like Royce O‘Neal, PJ Tucker, Jaymichael Green, Marcus Morris or Maxi Kleber? As long as it ain’t Zion or AD there’s no reason to think Lyles will do a better job guarding these players than DeRozan. On the offensive end a line up like that should create a lot of missmatches.

    As far as starting Poeltl and Aldridge: That won’t work. Teams will figure out quickly that the only people who can shoot the 3 well enough are White and LA. They could just play zone and the Spurs won’t score at all with Poeltl/DeRozan/Murray on the floor. DeRozan at the 4 should be the norm.

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    that samanic isnt ready is an indictment on the process imo

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    that samanic isnt ready is an indictment on the process imo
    The process of teaching young players to develop role-player skills first has been gone basically since Kawhi was drafted. All of the d-league stints starting with Anderson have been for the guys to show how much raw talent they had. That's good to a point. I think it helped White gain confidence and Forbes get enough of a floor game to survive as a shooter. But I don't think it helped Anderson, Murray, Walker or Metu much. The jury is out on Johnson since he did shoot really well from three after not doing it much in college, but he was awful at shooting in Austin, so eh?

    I can understand if last year was mostly about Sam working on his body. There definitely seems to be real improvement there. He's not completely skill-less either, so his development time in that area isn't going to be that long. But I kinda wish that they'd just focused on having him shoot threes first and then the other stuff later. He doesn't even have to be a sniper to knock out Lyles. He just needs to show he can knock down open shots. Then he can learn the rest on the job. With Gay and small-ball, Luka could have a nice 12- to 18-minute role as a starter who comes out for most of the half. It just doesn't seem like that was their priority, and I don't get the point in taking a developmental prospect if you don't have plans for him to be a legit contributor while on his rookie deal. It wasn't like there were no other players to take at 19...

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    where are all the Trey Lyles fans at now?

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