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    Murray is NOT a PG and should really focus on scoring than setting up people.
    Not a point guard but should focus on setting up other people...like a point guard ?

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    Not a point guard but should focus on setting up other people...like a point guard ?
    You might want to read his post again

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    Add Cam Reynolds to the list...

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    Not a point guard but should focus on setting up other people...like a point guard ?


    classic spurstalk IQ

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    Not a point guard but should focus on setting up other people...like a point guard ?
    Focus on scoring instead of setting up other people. Come on man
    I think DJ gets too cute on trying to make an assist. Make it simple, try to score, and pass when he is not open. SG/SF. I think Pop saw this pairing him with Tre, and was visible that Tre already has better control.

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    Can't read into anything until our 2 best players get back.

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    Can't read into anything until our 2 best players get back.
    When did LaMarcus & DeMar go down with injury? Oh, you meant Keldon & Derrick.

    I like both a lot and Keldon has some untapped potential, but SpursTalk is greatly overstating how good either guy is. Playing well in 8 games in the NBA Bubble doesn't magically make you better than two former all-stars that are still productive.

    And the team might be without them into the season, so trying to adjust & press on is key so they don't get off to a bad start.

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    When did LaMarcus & DeMar go down with injury? Oh, you meant Keldon & Derrick.

    I like both a lot and Keldon has some untapped potential, but SpursTalk is greatly overstating how good either guy is. Playing well in 8 games in the NBA Bubble doesn't magically make you better than two former all-stars that are still productive.

    And the team might be without them into the season, so trying to adjust & press on is key so they don't get off to a bad start.
    Disagree. White showed enough in 18-19 season that he's a complete player - can shoot, create, finish, facilitate & defend. KJ is fearless, relentless & plays with 1 gear. His impact defensively, as well as his decisiveness when shooting, cutting, finishing & attacking closeouts makes him the 2nd most impactful IMO. DD's shot creation is still there & he's a good facilitator, but with the game changing, his inability to play off the ball & his defense is getting exposed more & more.

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    Disagree. White showed enough in 18-19 season that he's a complete player - can shoot, create, finish, facilitate & defend. KJ is fearless, relentless & plays with 1 gear. His impact defensively, as well as his decisiveness when shooting, cutting, finishing & attacking closeouts makes him the 2nd most impactful IMO. DD's shot creation is still there & he's a good facilitator, but with the game changing, his inability to play off the ball & his defense is getting exposed more & more.
    True, White appeared head and shoulders above the rest towards the end of the last season. To the point where it was obvious in interviews that his teammates gave him a lot of respect for being so good.

    Keldon, well, it's only a matter of time before he lets the doubters know he's a top player on this team.

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    Tomorrow’s pre season game should give fans a good indication of who’s going to play over the first couple of weeks of the season.
    Pencil in DJ, DDR as starters. Hoping the other 3 will be Lonnie, Poeltl and Gay/Lyles.
    Imperative with our inability to initiate offence from the PG position, that the 2nd unit features Aldridge in a semi post attack - Inside out style.
    LA can still drift to the perimeter every now and then, but that shouldn’t be his primary focus.

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    Tomorrow’s pre season game should give fans a good indication of who’s going to play over the first couple of weeks of the season.
    Pencil in DJ, DDR as starters. Hoping the other 3 will be Lonnie, Poeltl and Gay/Lyles.
    Imperative with our inability to initiate offence from the PG position, that the 2nd unit features Aldridge in a semi post attack - Inside out style.
    LA can still drift to the perimeter every now and then, but that shouldn’t be his primary focus.
    I think it will be

    DJ
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    DeMar
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    I think it will be

    DJ
    Lonnie
    DeMar
    Gay
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    Yeah I think you’re on the money there.
    Healthy dose of Jakob and Vassell off the bench too.

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    https://www.spurstalk.com/grades-san...season-game-2/

    Obviously, there's no reason to panic . . . but it'd be nice to see Pop coach well at some point before the games begin to count.
    fify.

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    we need to get rid of Trey Lyles ... that was horrible and its just no fun at all having him in the game

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    Disagree. White showed enough in 18-19 season that he's a complete player - can shoot, create, finish, facilitate & defend. KJ is fearless, relentless & plays with 1 gear. His impact defensively, as well as his decisiveness when shooting, cutting, finishing & attacking closeouts makes him the 2nd most impactful IMO. DD's shot creation is still there & he's a good facilitator, but with the game changing, his inability to play off the ball & his defense is getting exposed more & more.

    Again, Keldon's play in 8 games isn't indicative of how he'll play with more minutes, a larger role & more responsibility (i.e. small sample size).

    I like the kid a lot & hope he can become a building block, but ST is way, way overstating his current value. Let him string along that production level over 30, 40, 50+ games & then he'll be near their level.

    Derrick needs to stay healthy, be given a larger role on offense & not fall into his mental lapses with his confidence. He is already the third best player on the team, and likely the most valuable because he take playmaking/ball handling pressure off DeMar & DeJounte, but his production level isn't at the level of DeMar & LaMarcus to surpass them yet.
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    but his production level isn't at the level of DeMar & LaMarcus to surpass them yet.
    If by production you mean ppg, it's largely tied to minutes and usage. When he had them in the bubble, he "produced" at their level, on greater (albeit in a small, unsustainable sample size) efficiency.

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    we need to get rid of Trey Lyles ... that was horrible and its just no fun at all having him in the game
    He got off to a slow start last season, but picked it up during the second half of the season. Seems like he has a lot of rust, his confidence is low (same issue him & Pop mentioned in his Spurs Stories piece) & he's rushing things.

    Hopefully, he'll slow down & get back to being the same type of rebounding, stretch 4 the starting line up desperately needs.

    Without Keldon & Derrick, I'm hoping Pop goes with a lineup similar to this to start the season:

    Starting - PG: DeJounte
    SG: DeMar DeRozan
    SF: Devin Vassell
    PF: Trey Lyles
    C: LaMarcus Aldridge

    Bench: 6. Patty Mills
    7. Lonnie Walker
    8. Rudy Gay
    9. Jakob Poeltl
    10. Cam Reynolds or Keita Bates-Diop


    That's the best line up, IMO, for floor spacing & balance purposes since we are gonna be missing two important pieces for sometime. Vassell has looked great in the preseason, has the help defensive instincts the starting group needs & could be a great volume three point shooter (provides much needed spacing).

    Lonnie can be much needed secondary ballhandler in the second unit & needs to still work through his confidence/passivity issues. His on-ball defense has also been really bad & I'm scared to see him trying to guard starting caliber SG's for 20 - 28 minutes.

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    op, I'm panicking... this team blows
    Loloooll

    U said Murray was good and lma

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    ^lol He said Bryn Forbes was good and is a big Lonzo Ball fan. Go figure.

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