Spurs: Behind the Scenes

[Spurminator]

For the record, Bucher just said he believes Kidd intends to go to SA and use this demand as a way of saying, "This is why I'm leaving."

[Ghost Writer]

"Look at what he is asking for, Ghost. Are any of his reported 'demands' something the Nets can't or won't do?" — Archie

No. That's the whole point. Afte the All-Star Break, Kidd said he was 100% coming back to the Nets. The mere fact that we've got him asking for the Nets to fire the coach, make him a front office official after he retires and also hook his wife up with a TV job just to get him to stay shows how much he likes what he sees in SA.

We were not the frontrunners. We never were.

Our pitch is so attractive to Kidd, though, he needs his current team to up the ante a lot for him to come back.

At least we're in the game. O'Neal just said thanks anyway and re-signed.

Again, now it's all on the Nets and Kidd. We made our pitch.

[Temple Of The Dog]

For the record, Bucher just said he believes Kidd intends to go to SA and use this demand as a way of saying, "This is why I'm leaving."

it looks bad for kidd either way... if he signs with the nets he'll be the guy who got his coach fired. if he signs with the spurs, he'll be the guy that asked way too much of a loyal franchise who he screwed over.

but if he stays in new jersey, after they start winning again... all will be forgiven (especially by the media)

[Archie]

For the record, Bucher just said he believes Kidd intends to go to SA and use this demand as a way of saying, "This is why I'm leaving."

But all those demands are that's easy to do for NJ. If he's saying this stuff wasn't addressed already and I wanted it to be, yeah. But I'd expect an announcement from him today that he was committing to SA. Instead he's saying next Monday...plenty of time for BScott to be gone.

[picnroll]

If Mourning is in NJ being checked out and having his medical records reviewed and he won't release those records to SA until there's an offer and if SA wants to check him out and Kidd is making a decision by Monday then he's going to NJ. Thinking Kidd is coming to SA is pipe.

[Archie]

Ghost, he's using the Spurs. Call his bluff and then work with what you have left. If the Spurs didn't already have Duncan and it was Kidd or nothing then yeah, hang on until the end. That's not the case here.

[KoriEllis]

There are many ways that Kidd's demands can be perceived. Are they Kidd just trying to get as much as he can out of NJ? Or are they excuses why he leaves to come to SA? Or they the true deciding factors for Kidd in choosing between NJ and SA?

I guess we'll just have to wait right now. But don't worry, the Spurs' management is not just sitting around while waiting.

[kohai]

In a world with "do-overs", wouldn't it be funny as to pull the chair on JKidd, if you think he's not coming, and then watch him squirm with no leverage in NJ? THAT would truly be a team in disarray. No way they fire Scott without that leverage, and it would be REAL interesting to watch THAT interaction.

[Archie]

What's the holdup if Kidd really wanted to be a Spur? Why waste the Spurs' time when they could be pursuing other free agents?

Think about it. If they can't get a commitment from him now, cut him off.

[CosmicCowboyXXX]

Garzamort claims to have inside scoop that Kidd never demanded that Scott be fired. Just that he didn't particularly like him. Says that Thorne asked Kidds agent to talk to Scotts agent to see if there was any way he could be nicer to Kidd.

right

OK

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[Man in Black1]

:brotha

In a twisted world:

Wow, ducks. I just figured the Duncans and the Kidds were getting together for an orgy.

That would make an interesting although disturbing, film.

Superstars have sex too.

:wacko

[Spurminator]

I don't think he's screwing over the franchise. But I agree it might be seen that way. I don't see anything wrong with him expressing his unwillingness to play for a coach he doesn't like. All things equal, he'd want to go to NJ anyway. But one of the factors making SA more appealing is that they don't have a coach he can't stand.

[50 Cent]

I think the demands he has made are all just part of his agenda to get what he wants. He clearly doesn't agree with Scott. During the Finals when Scott was blaming the refs, Kidd was saying, "that's not it at all."

Also, as was pointed out earlier, if he wanted to make an unrealistic demand, he could just demand the 7th year of his contract. I thought the Over 36 exemption in the CBA prevented them from offering a 7th year, but since they have his bird right's, they theoretically could give him a 7th year, although it would royally screw over their cap situation.

In that other Kidd article that I posted, it says that he complained to the owner at the hotel directly after Game 6 and made his comment that TJ could have coached better. It says that Thorn had the owner's blessing at that point to let Scott go.

The Spurs need to call his bluff and stop allowing themselves to be used by this arrogant jackass.

[Archie]

Maybe Thorn has hung on to BScott too long. But all those demands seem so simple. Maybe Lucious Harris hasn't been in Thorn's future plans.

Then again, all that we hear is really what certain interested parties want to be revealed.

[Ghost Writer]

How many times do we have to go over this?

Employee #6 gets a better offer from Organization B. He tells Organization A that he is leaving unless they do X, Y, & Z for him. Now it's up to Organization A to meet those demands of watch Employee #6 walk.


Organization B is the one that is trying to lure Employee #6 away. They make their pitch and that's it unless Employee #6 asks for more.

Loyalty comes into play when Employee #6 gives Organization A the benefit of raising the ante to keep his services.

Organization B patiently waits for the final fallout and Employee #6's decision.



No one is being used. You can bet your bottom dollar that if the NEts don't do what Kidd asks, he'll be a Spur.

Kidd said it was a 50/50 chance. He's allowing his current team to tip the scale in their favor. That business. That's life.

[grjr]

I just read an article that said Kidd had the coach changed when he was in college also. I hadn't heard that one before.

[Archie]

Of course Kidd is saying that because he can get anything he wants from the Nets now.

Look at what he's asking for. BScott fired. Extension for KMartin. Re-sign Lucious Harris. None of that is out of the question for the Nets.

[Ghost Writer]

Archie, Kidd wasn't a lock to leave NJ in the first place.

In fact, odds were that he was staying.

He's certainly not making it easy on them.

Duncan or Robinson never put our front office through these kinds of hula-hoops.

I am not surprised or pissed off by Kidd's manageable demands for the Nets. I would be pissed if he started asking the Spurs to up the ante to a similar degree.


All we can do now is be open and reasonably accommodating to Kidd as he finagles with NJ.

[Archie]

Ghost, he's using his free agent status to shape the franchise as he wants it.

[Ghost Writer]

Exactly.

If they don't comply, Kidd will sign with us. I really do believe that.

Kidd wouldn't be such a Billy Badass right now if he didn't have us to lean on, but that's the politics of life.

It's out of our hands.

just be glad we're not raising the bar even higher. The Coyote might be replaced by TJ Kidd next season.

[grjr]

I say better to reshape the Nets franchise in "his" vision than to reshape ours. I trust Pop and RC a lot more than Jason Kidd.

[CosmicCowboyXXX]

just be glad we're not raising the bar even higher. The Coyote might be replaced by TJ Kidd next season.

^^^^^Rack that!!!!^^^^^

[scott]

Employee #6 gets a better offer from Organization B. He tells Organization A that he is leaving unless they do X, Y, & Z for him. Now it's up to Organization A to meet those demands of watch Employee #6 walk.

Bingo.

Except in this case, Employee #1 is the CEO who has turned a failing company into a profitable one and is only asking for a new secretary and a different flavor soda in the machine down the hall.

[Ghost Writer]

That's his preroggative, though, scott. Where was everybody when Kidd said he was "100% coming back to NJ"?

Quite frankly, I don't think the Nets can meet all of his demands by Monday.

I think the Spurs are still going to snag Kidd if he sticks to the "decision by Monday" timeframe.

I really do!

[Archie]

Now Ghost likes this cap room. Go figure.