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    Speaking of Kawhi...



    Lmfao
    Lol. They both hate each other. Kawhi is better off on a team where he doesn't have to be the vocal leader. For the Raptors he was just riding out his 1 year contract and Nick Nurse coached that talented team to a SHIP.

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    Curry is NOT even top two PG all time that is Magic and Big O and not even close. Not sure even top 3. Give me nephew any time over Curry who can’t win without Durant or Thompson.

    LOL and where would nephew rank among Big O and Magic? Weird argument to make. Curry won without Durant. Would've won back to back if it wasn't for their dominant start and insisting on beating the 72 win record. Curry easily beats Kawhi in his prime. Not even close.

    Kawhi hasn't done much (wish we would've seen what happened if Zaza did not injure him). Kawhi winning in Raptors were because of all the GS injuries and the Raptors were pretty stacked for an East team. Otherwise Kawhi never won without Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker either.

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    Like giving the shooter space to land. Generally all the off ball physicality is a point of interest.
    that rule made for kawhi lol

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    Stockholm syndrome Spurs fans at it again.




    Nice story. In reality, he rested 95 games over 2 seasons, tanked his value to such an extent that he unwittingly ended up on what became (post Gasol trade) the most complete team in the league, then beat an ill-fitting (with Embiid ailing) 76ers team by a hair, a neophyte (in terms of championship contention) Bucks team and a decimated Warriors team (that otherwise would have skewered them). Congratulations.




    Nice story. In reality, Aldridge was also beasting and it was less than one game against a rusty team before the gutless worm quit in the WCF due to a sprained ankle.
    If Aldridge was beasting so much, why couldn't he keep a 20+ lead in a quarter and change?

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    People treat like nephew was dominating playoffs and the only example they could come up with to support that argument was half a game.

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    that rule made for kawhi lol
    Giving a T was for Leonard. But undercutting came into effect before then.

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    Kawhi and it ain’t close.

    Curry is an all time great (best shooter ever) and inspired this ugly brand of chucking 3’s basketball but Peak Kawhi effects the game in more ways than Curry. Steph is a killer on offense but you have to hide him on defense. Peak Kawhi effects both sides of the ball hugely!

    Peak Kawhi had players afraid to bring the ball up the court against him while also dropping an efficient 30 on their head.

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    People treat like nephew was dominating playoffs and the only example they could come up with to support that argument was half a game.
    Fine how about the entire 2017 playoffs, the two series prior to the Golden gots?

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    Peak Curry and it’s not even close. Dude completely changed the game. Kawhi was pippin-like. Ok but no defense was stopping Curry. Teams were just hoping he misses

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    Peak Curry and it’s not even close. Dude completely changed the game. Kawhi was pippin-like. Ok but no defense was stopping Curry. Teams were just hoping he misses
    Clevelands All Pro D must have done it, huh? Toronto too?
    Before that he was something like 28% and down 3-1 vs OKC before his butt buddy Durant took over and threw the series, knowing he was coming to Golden State.

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    Clevelands All Pro D must have done it, huh? Toronto too?
    Before that he was something like 28% and down 3-1 vs OKC before his butt buddy Durant took over and threw the series, knowing he was coming to Golden State.
    Terribly lopsided arguments. Curry swept Cleveland the year before. He then accomplished the near impossible by winning 73 games in a stacked Western conference even without Durant. Exhaustion and injuries lead to losing to a very talented Cleveland team. And then proceeded to win 2 more les with Durant and lose the third again because of injuries. Curry is a beast and is still beasting and better than current Kawhi.

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    If Aldridge was beasting so much, why couldn't he keep a 20+ lead in a quarter and change?
    It was a perfect storm. S bag reinjuring his ankle (they probably suspected in the moment that it was for the series) and the Warriors naturally regaining their rhythm and increasing their intensity and urgency, led to a predictable collapse.

    It wasn't his fault that they could double him with impunity because the team lacked another go-to player and 3-point shooting.

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    It was a perfect storm. S bag reinjuring his ankle (they probably suspected in the moment that it was for the series) and the Warriors naturally regaining their rhythm and increasing their intensity and urgency, led to a predictable collapse.

    It wasn't his fault that they could double him with impunity because the team lacked another go-to player and 3-point shooting.
    This is correct a lot of dumb ass people on this board act like they don't actually watch the games. Aldridge got doubled and tripled teamed after Kawhi went down. Kyle Anderson Jonathan Simmons and an old Manu weren't going to stop them from coming back.

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    Kawhi's peak is more on offensive-end. I'll take Curry.

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    It was a perfect storm. S bag reinjuring his ankle (they probably suspected in the moment that it was for the series) and the Warriors naturally regaining their rhythm and increasing their intensity and urgency, led to a predictable collapse.

    It wasn't his fault that they could double him with impunity because the team lacked another go-to player and 3-point shooting.
    If Aldridge would have been the one to go down, Kawhi would have taken us home that night.

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    Prime Kawhi choked in the playoffs 2015 and 2016, then got injured and quit in 17 and 18. Finally put it together in 2019, but choked again in 2020.

    His prime has been as sporadic as his uncle's mood swings.

    Curry has been Curry since 2013. I'll take consistency.

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    LOL and where would nephew rank among Big O and Magic? Weird argument to make. Curry won without Durant. Would've won back to back if it wasn't for their dominant start and insisting on beating the 72 win record. Curry easily beats Kawhi in his prime. Not even close.

    Kawhi hasn't done much (wish we would've seen what happened if Zaza did not injure him). Kawhi winning in Raptors were because of all the GS injuries and the Raptors were pretty stacked for an East team. Otherwise Kawhi never won without Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker either.
    If u watch and understand basketball, raptors would have beat that team if they were healthy...the warriors are susceptible to big teams...keep in mind raps dominated and Kawhi was limping since the 6ers series...OG didn't play the entire playoffs...and Golden state faced teams with injuries every single chip they won, but no one holds it against them...y hold it against the raps?

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    When was Kawhi's peak, anyway? 2017? The year he played great but wasn't really tested in the playoffs? That first half of the WCF was impressive and all, but it was still just one half of one game. We'll never know how that series would've played out.

    Curry is actually a good defender in his own right, something he doesn't get much credit for due to his build and athletic ability. His anticipation is beyond excellent, great hands, always in the right place...

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    He was average at best versus the Clippers in ‘15. Getting ran off the floor by KD and Westbrook in ‘16. Quitting in the Western Conference Finals because of a sprained ankle? One of the all time choke jobs vs Denver? Kawhi knob slobbers are pathetic. I love how every Kawhi apologist leaves out the fact that Toronto was the #1 seed in the East with DeRozan like he was exiled to Siberia.
    I love revisionist history

    1. We list to the clippers because we couldn't defend the lick and roll...we had cp3 and blake griffin looking like stockton and malone the entire series...Kawhi wasn't a superstar at that point

    2. We lost to the thunder because we couldn't rebound...they DESTROYED us on the boards and we kept playing david west and LMA together even tho they were getting bodied in the paint by Adams and Ibaka

    3. No one in the NBA took Toronto seriously... Matter of fact, go back to the trade thread... Spurs fans were laughing their ass off at Kawhi when he was sent to the raptors... Some even called it a wasted year... Stop acting like it was the equivalent of sending him to the warriors... Absolutely no one thought he could turn that team around... They were the laughing stock of the east u til he got there

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    Terribly lopsided arguments. Curry swept Cleveland the year before. He then accomplished the near impossible by winning 73 games in a stacked Western conference even without Durant. Exhaustion and injuries lead to losing to a very talented Cleveland team. And then proceeded to win 2 more les with Durant and lose the third again because of injuries. Curry is a beast and is still beasting and better than current Kawhi.
    This is the problem...a lot of ppl on here commenting that don't know about basketball...Curry NEVER swept the Cavs before durant...in 16 they got taken to 6, and they lost in 17

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    Fine how about the entire 2017 playoffs, the two series prior to the Golden gots?
    How did that dominant run ended?

    He shat the bed royal the previous two playoffs.

    And the raptors run is one of the most overrated runs ever. The best opponent he went against was the bucks which couldn’t even make the finals the same year the heat led by jimmy butler did.

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    I love revisionist history

    1. We list to the clippers because we couldn't defend the lick and roll...we had cp3 and blake griffin looking like stockton and malone the entire series...Kawhi wasn't a superstar at that point

    2. We lost to the thunder because we couldn't rebound...they DESTROYED us on the boards and we kept playing david west and LMA together even tho they were getting bodied in the paint by Adams and Ibaka

    3. No one in the NBA took Toronto seriously... Matter of fact, go back to the trade thread... Spurs fans were laughing their ass off at Kawhi when he was sent to the raptors... Some even called it a wasted year... Stop acting like it was the equivalent of sending him to the warriors... Absolutely no one thought he could turn that team around... They were the laughing stock of the east u til he got there
    Why would I take anything you reply seriously? You were on this board whining about that loser Jonathan Simmons’. playing time. What a joke. He was out of the league in less than 2 years. Then you want to talk about revisionist history leaving out the choke job last season and how he quit in ‘17 because of a sprained ankle. Why don’t you mention him vs OKC in ‘16? Deflecting because your hero got outclassed.

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    Kawhi is still just 29, he's still in his peak imo. And for all the Kawhi haters, he's the one that made the Spurs relevant again in the 2010's. Tim and company were losing to 8 seeds as 1 seeds before he got here.

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    And tbh while we may never get the full story something seriously must've gone horribly wrong with PATFO for Kawhi to dip the way he did. I mean wasn't he buying a house for his mother in SA before went down? That doesn't sound like someone who was dying to get away from the Spurs.

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    And tbh while we may never get the full story something seriously must've gone horribly wrong with PATFO for Kawhi to dip the way he did. I mean wasn't he buying a house for his mother in SA before went down? That doesn't sound like someone who was dying to get away from the Spurs.
    That's actually pretty interesting to think about right now. Yeah, he bought/built his mother a house there, and as far I recall, she lived in San Antonio during the 2019 season. I wonder if he's still there now? Anyone know?

    I wonder if he had no intention of leaving until something happened between the two sides, or if his mother liked living in San Antonio and wanted to stay (I guess it depends if he's still living in SA now?) regardless of whether or not Kawhi moved to another team?

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