It's all in Brand's hands now. If he doesn't want to play there, Sterling can do nothing about it. There is no use matching and signing a guy to a long term deal if he doesn't want to play for you.
I don't think Brand wants to stay there since Sterling doesn't want to pay Kandi and Brand specifically said he wanted him to sign Kandi as part of keeping the team in place. As bad as Kandi is, Brand doesn't want to play next to a rookie in the frontcourt next year. Who knows what other guys Sterling will let walk that Brand would want to play with but Kandi is as good as gone.
The reason Sterling might be forced into a S&T is that Brand can threaten to stay another year and then leave scott free in which case Sterling recoups nothing. Better picks than nothing.
You guys are being ignorant.
Sterling can afford to let Brand walk if he wants to. He's got four other free agents that he could pay.
Why the fvck would Sterling entertain a S&T with the Spurs now when he's got Brand considering his intial offer?
Question.
Hard to say scott. If the Spurs had that choice then I'm sure they would think about the pricetag in terms of picks and in the contract terms. The problem is that it is really going to be a hassle with Sterling. He is crazy enough to take Brand for one more year and then lose him for nothing. 4 picks might not be enough.
Because Brand only wants to stay if Sterling resigns some key FA's, Kandi being one of them and I don't think that's going to happen.You guys are being ignorant.
Sterling can afford to let Brand walk if he wants to. He's got four other free agents that he could pay.
Why the fvck would Sterling entertain a S&T with the Spurs now when he's got Brand considering his intial offer?
I am begging you guys to tell me why Sterling would resort to a sign-and-trade with the Spurs when he doesn't have to.
The picks we're talking about are pathetic late first round picks with minimal value to the Clips. How often do you get a Parker with a late round pick? There are teams that can make much, much better offers to the Clips in a S&T. Throw in Parker? Maybe and go for Payton.
Only way it gets done is basically if Brand says I gotta be on the Spurs and nowhere else and Falk works the deal.
But this is Sterlings game and he has his stable of horses and he can't let the horses think they can dictate terms to him. He's got to keep them guessing what he will and won't do.
I didn't read this whole thread, but quick question...
Why does the le say "max offer"? $65M isn't close to Max, this is the same offer that Sterling extended to Olowokanid last season.
The Phoenix pick has various restrictions but is still interesting. The Memphis pick will be a high second rounder...almost a late 1st rounder without the guaranteed contract.
What's the alternative, pickroll? Nothing.
Marcus and scott have drifted into Mr. Rogers' Land of Make-Believe again.
Sterling doesn't have to play ball with the Spurs. He can wait for Brand to answer his initial offer, match any other offers or let Brand walk.
It's max salary over 5 years, not 7...so technically it's not the "max offer", but it's the max he can make in 5 years...I didn't read this whole thread, but quick question...
Why does the le say "max offer"? $65M isn't close to Max, this is the same offer that Sterling extended to Olowokanid last season.
Ghost, one more time.
1) I don't think Brand will take the offer for reasons I stated above.
2) Letting Brand walk for nothing is not a good business decision for obvious reasons.
Sterling doesn't have all the leverage.
The most we can offer him is 6 right? Only thing to do is talk to his agent and guage his interest. If he wants to come at all costs, we can get him.It's max salary over 5 years, not 7...so technically it's not the "max offer", but it's the max he can make in 5 years...
In Sterling's world he might think that having Brand for one year is worth passing on whatever the Spurs offer. Maybe he actually thinks it's important to have someone to sell the fans on...in his twisted mind.
I don't know. I'm just trying to think through it. I'd be happy to have holes poked in the logic because Brand would be my second choice. I'm just hoping O'Neal signs and simplifies things.What's the alternative, pickroll? Nothing.
Well, the problem is that Sterling is one owner who would actually turn down a sign and trade just to have a player for one more season who is guaranteed to leave for nothing in return.
What are those obvious reasons, 2Hand?
You've refuted nothing.
Like I said 10 times now, Sterling can let Brand decide on his current offer, match any other offers, or let his @ss walk.
If he lets Brand walk, he can re-up any number of the 4-5 free agents he has to make minimum salary requirements.
The Spurs picks and money won't compell Sterling to do a S&T if he doesn't decide to match a full max offer.
Last time I checked, it was better to get some value for a guy you have under contract instead of just letting him walk, especially if you're into 1st round picks.
Unless of course you're insane.
What's Sterling?
What about throwing manu in addition to 4-5 picks?
With the alternative of Brand signing the QO, This isn't so bad.
We can get Brand, but he really really must want to come with us.
I don't see the Spurs giving up Ginobili.
Touche.What's Sterling?
I agree that the Spurs should take this approach with Brand but Sterling is just such an oddball...he's too damn hard to size up.
Of course he could demand the Spurs send back something like a boatload of picks and TP/Ginobili/Rose or whatever...just to get the Spurs to say no. Then he can say that he tried to get fair value for Brand and that he's just going to wait until next summer to try to re-sign *insert laughter here* Brand.
That's the problem with that mofo. He will do that.
Sterling can let Brand decide on his current offer, match any other offers, or let his @ss walk.
This is lost on you people.
He won't let Brand walk this summer.
We'll be alright as long as we are working the S&T possibilities now.
We run no risk in trying to get the deal done now.
If we get shot down, we turn our full interest to other top notch FAs (whomever they may be in the eyes of the Spurs). In the event that we do not sign those players, we then can play Sterlings games.
To recap- the safest and best chronological approach is the following:
1. Attempt to reach a S&T agreement for Elton Brand
2. Attempt to sign UFAs (O'Neal, Kidd, Payton)
3. Attempt to sign RFA Brand, gambling that Sterling will not match
4. Build team based on some other combination of FAs
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