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    Spitting image!

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    If I understand Marcus's rantings, and the responses thereto...Spurs stand to get the full lux-tax payout simply by shuffling a bunch of DNP's (beyond 11th man players)?

    Think about that for just a minute.

    One man's "Cheap" is another man's "Savvy".

    Here's to you, Peter Holt, and everybody else who makes it possible for you to own the best AND most profitable team in the NBA.

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    If I understand Marcus's rantings, and the responses thereto...Spurs stand to get the full lux-tax payout simply by shuffling a bunch of DNP's (beyond 11th man players)?

    Think about that for just a minute.

    One man's "Cheap" is another man's "Savvy".

    Here's to you, Peter Holt, and everybody else who makes it possible for you to own the best AND most profitable team in the NBA.
    Nope. The lux tax rules have changed. No longer does a team stand to lose the entire distribution should they exceed the threshold.

    That's the reason behind "Marcus's rantings". It's not basketball savvy to limit the team in order to save a few bucks.

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    I'd imagine they'll keep them both. One is good on offense, one is good on D. And then just see what happens when Finley/Barry return. Yesterday Pop said Finley/Barry might be another five days or so.

    Do you think the Spurs considered bringing in Noel? That would have been cool!

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    The Game is available why didnt they pick him up???

    http://www.undercover.com.au/news/20...7_thegame.html

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    Frankly speaking, I don't get it.

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    Nope. The lux tax rules have changed. No longer does a team stand to lose the entire distribution should they exceed the threshold.

    That's the reason behind "Marcus's rantings". It's not basketball savvy to limit the team in order to save a few bucks.
    "It" speaks in the third-person now. Great.

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    Do you think the Spurs considered bringing in Noel? That would have been cool!
    Noel is a mostly a power forward who has played a little small forward -- so I seriously doubt it. The Spurs are looking for a shooting guard/small forward.

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    Nope. The lux tax rules have changed. No longer does a team stand to lose the entire distribution should they exceed the threshold.

    That's the reason behind "Marcus's rantings". It's not basketball savvy to limit the team in order to save a few bucks.
    You're wrong on this point. Being $1 over the threshold cost $2.7M.

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    Not according to this.

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    I hope someone warned Rasho!!

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    It's the old CBA.
    For the new CBA each team under the tax receive 1/29 of the escrow.
    The rest is divided between all the teams (over and under).
    The Lux tax income will be around $80M.

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    No, that link has the new CBA terms.

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    No, that link has the new CBA terms.
    No.
    just look the max length of the contracts (item 17)

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    Wouldn't be great to see SAS-look-alike:



    .... play shut-down defense on ... Kobe!!

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    Spurs are $600k over the Tax : This $600k cost in fact $3.9M ($600k*2+$2.7M).
    If Spurs sign a guy to a minumum contract for all the year, it will cost them $1.44M ($720k*2 : min salaries cost allways $720k to teams with the new CBA)

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    Spurs sign free agent G

    SAN ANTONIO - The world champion San Antonio Spurs signed free agent guard Alex Scales on Thursday.

    Financial terms were not disclosed.

    The University of Oregon product has played professionally for five seasons in Italy, Korea and China.

    The 6-2, 180-pound Scales averaged 5.6 points in seven preseason games with the Seattle SuperSonics this year before being cut.

    After signing with the Spurs, Scales was placed on the inactive list.

    {Scales was a free agent and was cut by the Sonics.}

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    Alex Scales,

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    No, the old method resulted in a total loss of the distributions. Not sure where you are getting the $2.7 mil from. Escrow?

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    No, the old method resulted in a total loss of the distributions. Not sure where you are getting the $2.7 mil from. Escrow?
    You will have around $80M in Lux Tax income. (you can check if you want).
    This $80M will be divide in 29 parts. (around $2.7M)
    Each team under the tax will receive a part ($2.7M).
    The rest is divided in 29 parts and all team receive a part.

    ex : if you have 20 teams under the Lux tax threshold :
    you receiver $3.6M if you are under the tax and $900k if you are over.

    It's not a total loss but it's a $2.7M difference, that what's count.

    The main reason why Spurs haven't sign a 14th man is not that they will cost them $1.4M but with the signing of a 14th man , they will be $1.3M over the tax and that it will be more difficult to do a trade that send Spurs under the threshold.

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    link?

    That sounds like the escrow money. As I understand it, that will be shared equally among all teams. The league has before only shared that money among the teams under the lux tax threshold.

    There is potentially another significant development in this area. Under current rules, the NBA has sole discretion over the use of the escrow money. Currently, it redistributes the cash (and luxury tax revenues) to teams that are under the luxury tax threshold. In essence, Clippers owner Donald Sterling gets a bonus for being cheap. Under the new proposed agreement, distribution rules would be changed so that luxury tax revenues would now be distributed equally among all 30 teams.
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    link?

    That sounds like the escrow money. As I understand it, that will be shared equally among all teams. The league has before only shared that money among the teams under the lux tax threshold.
    Good read
    http://www.nbpa.com/cba_articles/article-VII_12.php

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    That's the old CBA.

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    No it's the new.

    The extract

    The tax amounts remitted to the NBA by NBA Teams pursuant to Section 12(f) above for each Salary Cap Year shall be used and/or distributed as follows:

    (i) the NBA shall distribute to each Team that does not owe a tax for such Salary Cap Year an amount equal to the aggregate tax remitted to the NBA multiplied by a fraction, the numerator of which is one (1) and the denominator of which is the number of Teams in the NBA during such Salary Cap Year; and

    (ii) amounts not distributed in accordance with Section 12(g)(2)(i) above shall be used and/or distributed in the manner described (with respect to the use and/or distribution of Escrow Amounts) in Section 12(g)(1)(i) and (ii) above.

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    i think spurs tryin to showboat scales+sanders so they can package them to the tpups for crymeariver KG

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