Agree.
Kids need and crave structure. I never understood parents who never put their kid on a schedule, especially when they were infants. That's when kids start running the household. If they don't get this at home, then there will most likely be a problem in school. I think a lot of problems with kids today is that a lot of parents want to be their child's friend instead of their parent. Sad.
And yeah, I agree with the over medication of things.
Bipolar disorder is a medical condition, not an addiction. You can't "beat" it dude. You can only control it and the only way to do that is with medication. See what you don't understand, because you are bipolar, is that you actually think you don't need medication and are just fine. That's what makes you dangerous.
I know someone like that. They take their meds, feel better, then stop taking them because they think they "beat" it. Well, then they start walking around telling everyone to walk out in the rain because it will cleanse them of their sins and make them Christians.....Yeah, way to beat that bipolar disorder ......
Don't fool yourself.
i value your advice. thank-you, sister.
i must say that i DO take medicine.
my medicine is reading the Good Book. so no need to worry...
although, i must say, i'm very tempted to rip off the tom cruise line...
so i will..
"that's right pseudofan, I'M DANGEROUS..."
just call me maverick now...
ADD is for parents that haven't shown their kids the proper amount of Love, attention, and discipline.
they then blame the child for being 'out of control and innattentive'.
children at a young age are very good learners.
if they are out of control and innattentive, i wonder where they could have learned that from huh?
it's more sad than funny, but bottomline, and i have relatives that are like this, is that parents need to be parents, too many are just babysitters that pay the bills...
Someone calling themselves bipolar is different from somebody who's actually been formally evaluated by a psychiatrist and has been given an Axis I diagnosis.
Maybe it's just me, but I've yet to meet anyone on lithium or valproate who hadn't repeatedly done some really manic stuff.
well, all i know is, on the day of my salvation?
my mom's, wife, dad, best friend and EVERYONE that should know me tried to have me put away...
i talked to about 12 different cops and a wanna be therapist that day...
they said i was fine.
well, not the therapist, it was already late in the evening, i hadn't slept at all the night before, and she wanted to 'talk'.
i was like, i'm tired....in my mind, i said that...
and after i, half asleep, answered all her questions and told her i just wanted to go home and goto bed?
the wanted to keep me for observation!
then they put me in a room and i can hear them talkin bout me in the hall..
i opened up that door and said, hey, i ain't staying here...and if you've got something to say about me? say it to me!
they, like all hospitals will, were scared of the lawsuit.
scared if they let me go, someone was gonna sue their ass.
i don't believe in frivelous lawsuits.
after i tried to explain that i was not going to sleep anywhere but my own bed,
they started getting antsy.
so i said, " THIS, THIS IS AMERICA PEOPLE, I'M OUT THIS , AND YA'LL BETTER WAKE UP, WE GOT SOLDIERS DYING OVERSEAS FOR OUR FREEDOM AND YOU ALL WANNA LOCK PEOPLE UP? THAT, AND YOU...BIGZAK IS OUT..."
and so i walked the streets downtown...if i had cash? i woulda gone and got a beer and just chilled...but i guess i was without my wallet...so my plan was to walk to my g'mas. She always gots it together. She is my ROCK here on earth.
But the cops caught up...same old dance...had to talk them down from the ledge...
all of them...maybe 8.
i had mania that day.
i was too high.
admittedly out of control.
being SAVED does that.
i've learned much since that day.
i've learned to be calm.
be in control of myself, even more than ever.
Crazy was sitting in my 10x10 ing cubicle for 6 years, just trying to get through the days, earning a crappy paycheck that wasn't gonna make a dent in my bills anyway since i was spending cash on all kinds of frivelous that i didn't need.
THAT WAS IN CRAZY.
NOW? I'm broke. But i'm fed and got clothes on my back.
I got a plan.
Can't nobody take my pride, can't nobody hold me down, I gotta keep on movin.
and so the journey continues...and you all get to watch...this is history in the making...get yourself plenty of popcorn...cuz this is only the previews....and they might take a while...
seriously though, the people that are the worst cases are the ones with the most stress and the least love.
they don't need pills. that just numbs everything. it solves NOTHING.
well, since my REDSKINS lost to the lowly raiders today?
i'm off to kill myself...til next time...
ahhh... it...i'm too lazy for that...i'm just gonna go buy a basketball and shoot hoops...behind the church across the street from west avenue elementary if anyone is down...i don't know if there are peeps there or not, but there are two rims, and it's an ashpalt court...see you there in an hour or so...or not...have a GREAT DAY!
get the outside, it's BEAUTIFUL!
peace-
Yes I do. If you have any questions please feel free to ask or PM me, I'm happy to help. Brodels, it sounds like your roomate did indeed have a variety of mental disorders, not just bi-polar. Quite a bit of what you posted actually. Must have been very hard to deal with. And just as a general fyi, I diagnosis of bi-polar does not mean you are crazy.
I am not talking about someone just deciding they are bi-polar. I'm talking about psychiatrists medicating/diagnosing them as such. In my office in L.A., out of five people, two people were on meds for bi-polar disorder and the two others on meds for depression. I highly doubt that I was the only one of the five that wasn't in need of meds.
--Kori
I went to see psychiatrist when I was applying to work for Goodwill Industries ,
I was in her office for not even 20 minutes and she wrote me a prescription for lithium and sent me on my way, The folks at Goodwill were told I was Bi polar and I was given the job, My dad told me that lithium can keep me from getting an erection, so I only took them for 3 days, I never took them again, I worked for goodwill for about 7 years,
I know many doctors that will grab your balls tell you to cough and give you a load of Pills, anyone who does not belive me has not been to a VA hospital.
many Doctors treat you like you was renting bowling shoes, your in, your out, and you now have a million pills to take, I think Shoogarbear has just been lucky to live somewhere were they take there time and actually look at you for a at least a week before they start dishing out the pills.
I can't speak to the ones on bipolar meds, because I don't know the stories behind them.
Anti-depressants, I will admite, also get prescribed at the drop of a hat (personal belief). A large part of that is that we now live in an age where depression has lost most of its stigma, and the new medications have much less in the way of side-effects. Both of these changes are good, but now the pendulum may have swung too far the other way in that a lot of people, for whatever reason, want to be able to say they are clinically depressed and want to be taking antidepressants.
The bipolar meds, while effective, are not nearly so benign as the antidepressants. I would be very surprised at someone who would prescribe them without being very sure of the diagnosis.
Also, you should thank me for the great deal of maturity I showed in not going after the low-hanging fruit here.
I don't think it's as simple as "being a kid".
When paying attention to simple things, such as listening to details or instructions, becomes impossible to do for a child, I'm pretty sure the kid needs help.
I would call it being a kid when it's sporadic or not something that happens frequently. But when it becomes an everyday thing, or it interferes with their learning in school, and it can't be controlled with discipline, they need something else to help them. i.e. meds or therapy.
There needs to be some reasonable restraint shown by the medical community when diagnosing ADD and prescribing meds.
Several years ago my wife spoke to a medical professional over the phone (without me knowing about it) and after answering a few quesions about our 10 year old son the doctor called in a prescription for Retalin.
I saw the prescription when my wife brought it home and was alarmed because we had never discussed the possibility that he may have ADD.
I took the pills and took 1/2 of one tablet to check out the effects of it (I did not allow her to give any to our son) and it kept me awake until 2:30 a.m!
Our son was seen a few days later in the office by another Dr. who said he did not have ADD and did not need retalin.
That phone diagnosis really ticked me off!
Big money to be made by the Pharmaceutical Companies.
The phone diagnosis is pretty damn stupid. They diagnosed me ADD after taking the standard test for it - which is clicking a mouse on the same part of a computer screen for 20 minutes. That will make ANYONE look like they have ADD.There needs to be some reasonable restraint shown by the medical community when diagnosing ADD and prescribing meds.
Several years ago my wife spoke to a medical professional over the phone (without me knowing about it) and after answering a few quesions about our 10 year old son the doctor called in a prescription for Retalin.
I saw the prescription when my wife brought it home and was alarmed because we had never discussed the possibility that he may have ADD.
I took the pills and took 1/2 of one tablet to check out the effects of it (I did not allow her to give any to our son) and it kept me awake until 2:30 a.m!
Our son was seen a few days later in the office by another Dr. who said he did not have ADD and did not need retalin.
That phone diagnosis really ticked me off!
Big money to be made by the Pharmaceutical Companies.
TOP-CHERRY - I have seen tons of kids who are undisciplined, and I have seen very few who are actually ADD. Very few kids have ADD, and believe me, you KNOW the kids that are ADD - they are beyond the realm of unruly.
I think antidepressants get prescribed a lot more than they need to be intentionally as a placebo - I've known people who have been on 20mg of Celexa a day (which has about as much seratonin as a bar of chocolate).
Maybe they wigged hard on a dose or two???
Well yeah, it's only like 3 to 5% of children who actually have it.
I just wanted to respond to timvp's comments about him thinking ADD doesn't exist.
I think it's much much less common. Maybe like 1 in 10,000 or something actually have it IMO. I think it's truly a very rare thing.
Do you still feel the same now that you have been here awhile?
Ask Dizzg's wife.
http://p078.ezboard.com/I-got-TWO-ta...ID=12707.topic
Interesting that this thread got bumped. My 9-yr old nephew was diagnosed with "slight ADD" about a year ago and put on meds. Total bull . You either have it or you don't. Now, apparently he is 'depressed' and they put him on Prozac.
A 9 year old. On Prozac.
I was BEYOND livid that my dumbass sister didn't get a second opinion on this. I either pick him up from school or have him dropped off twice a week for reading lessons (he was failing but he is back now on the A/B honor roll since we have been reading together) and I spend lots of time with him and he is genuinely a good kid. Anytime he acts up (which is rare) I give him "the look" and he behaves. He sure is isn't depressed and I am worried about any long-term effects from taking such a drug at such a young age.
Remember the 70s when all you needed was Alka seltzer and Penicillin?
I worked with a girl that is bisexual? Is that related to being bipolar?
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