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    No way they give up OG for Jak.

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    spurs get:
    siakam & myles turner

    raptors get:
    jakob & derrick white

    pacers get:
    eubanks, lonnie, forbes, and a spurs #2 round pick

    something like that. would be a great retool on the fly for the spurs.

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    No way they give up OG for Jak.
    I mean they’re considering Turner for OG. Im not convinced the drop between Turner and Jak is that big honestly…

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    ^ just saying, Jak, Drew, KBD for OG works…
    2 centers and a PF for a SF? Unbalancing out roster in a different way..

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    If the spurs don’t move McD but do move Jak, I am going to be pissed. Although, I would not be surprised at all

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    2 centers and a PF for a SF? Unbalancing out roster in a different way..
    Yeah that’s less than ideal. I suppose they could do Bryn instead or even Lonnie

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    spurs get:
    siakam & myles turner

    raptors get:
    jakob & derrick white

    pacers get:
    eubanks, lonnie, forbes, and a spurs #2 round pick

    something like that. would be a great retool on the fly for the spurs.
    Nothing about this works. Nothing.

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    John Hollinger from The Athletic, quoted in this link. Also mentioned in articles about a possible Boston trade.


    https://247sports.com/college/maryland/Article/Jalen-Smith-Phoenix-Suns-Contract-Maryland-Basketball-Star-180291822/
    Thanks for the explanation. I didn't know there was a special situation for this.

    The Spurs' cap situation for 2022-2023 looks like $83M plus a $13.3M cap hold for Walker. I'm assuming Young and Forbes will be renounces

    It’s a rule put in place specifically to keep teams from cir venting the rookie scale. Player A blows up in year one like Derrick Rose did. Wink wink deal to not pickup his option, and throw the bag at him after year 2, instead of him having to wait until after year 4 like the rest of his draft class.
    I understand the reasoning for this rule when it comes to the team that drafted the player, but having that rule follow him if he's traded doesn't make sense to me. Oh well, them's the rules.

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    Forbes, Eubanks, Thad are the only ones I see on the trade market. I don’t even think the Spurs would trade White, McBuckets or Poodle. Spurs don’t do flashy mid season trades, they won’t go full tank mode with Pop chasing his record.

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    Thanks for the explanation. I didn't know there was a special situation for this.

    The Spurs' cap situation for 2022-2023 looks like $83M plus a $13.3M cap hold for Walker. I'm assuming Young and Forbes will be renounces



    I understand the reasoning for this rule when it comes to the team that drafted the player, but having that rule follow him if he's traded doesn't make sense to me. Oh well, them's the rules.
    It’s designed to constrain both the team and the player. It’s still a scam to non-tender, and then trade him, getting something in return.

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    i found some blurbs for other teams but not the spurs.

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    Read something about teams looking at Forbes ie. Denver ? People still think there are a couple of teams interested in Young?

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    Read something about teams looking at Forbes ie. Denver ? People still think there are a couple of teams interested in Young?
    Of course teams are interested in Young.

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    If we could find a way to get Goga that would be a good player to target. Ind might be willing to trade him especially if turner does not get picked up. I believe he is more of a traditional center but he does shoot 3s. He also is still young. Just dont know what we would have to give up to get him and how much Indy still wants him. I think he is their third center but I think they want to move the first 2.

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    I'm so disappointed that the spurs haven't traded T. Young for at least a 2nd rounder yet. What a waste of money and talent. No wonder he is ticked off. My guess they just let him walk for a minimal return on his 14 million dollar contract if anything. Its about 170K every game he doesn't play. Again, what a waste.
    Why does it make sense for the Spurs to trade away Thad , take on matching contract, for just a second rounder this far before the trade deadline? In what world is this a good idea for the Spurs?

    The Spurs aren't going to take money on the book for the rest of the season for a 2nd rounder. They're certainly not going to do it for a 2nd rounder and eat more years of a contract. I'm 100% that the Spurs would rather just do a buyout, save money, and get Thad off the books if no trade comes along. But to eat a contract for a 2nd/ lol, why?

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    This is deep level capology of which I do not care to research. With that being said it seems silly to possess the cap space to sign a player you just traded for, have clear space to sign him at a fair market value and lose out to someone else who also has cap space because the terms were “radioactive.” Did he mean retroactive? There is a pretty low bar to be an internet sports journalist these days so just asking the question. Anyone with a twitter account and the ability to generate click bait can claim to be a professional.
    Hollinger is a former GM dude. This is a good way to let people know you have no idea what you're talking about.

    He meant radioactive because once the team declines the option it doesn't give them many ways to resign the player. Its done in order to prevent teams from declining options to do weird .

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    People need to stop with the Spurs don't do mid seasons trade narrative. Yeah, they don't do these trades when you have the big 3 and don't need to blow things up to make your team better. The Spurs are in the middle of a rebuild. That no longer applies.

    Maybe they trade, maybe they don't, but acting like the Spurs are still doing business like they have for the past 20 years is stupid.

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    Hollinger is a former GM dude. This is a good way to let people know you have no idea what you're talking about.

    He meant radioactive because once the team declines the option it doesn't give them many ways to resign the player. Its done in order to prevent teams from declining options to do weird .
    I actually corrected myself a few mins later but you obviously didn't read the whole thread.

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    People need to stop with the Spurs don't do mid seasons trade narrative. Yeah, they don't do these trades when you have the big 3 and don't need to blow things up to make your team better. The Spurs are in the middle of a rebuild. That no longer applies.

    Maybe they trade, maybe they don't, but acting like the Spurs are still doing business like they have for the past 20 years is stupid.
    It’s a pretty accurate narrative. We haven’t had the big 3 in 5 years. The LMA/DDR years were ripe for mid season trades.

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    Why does it make sense for the Spurs to trade away Thad , take on matching contract, for just a second rounder this far before the trade deadline? In what world is this a good idea for the Spurs?

    The Spurs aren't going to take money on the book for the rest of the season for a 2nd rounder. They're certainly not going to do it for a 2nd rounder and eat more years of a contract. I'm 100% that the Spurs would rather just do a buyout, save money, and get Thad off the books if no trade comes along. But to eat a contract for a 2nd/ lol, why?
    We just paid Huthison’s ~4mm contract for a 2022 SRP. So two SRP’s and an expiring contract is probably something they’d consider. Additionally, if Thad isn’t looking to take much off the table in a buyout a single SRP and an expiring still makes sense.

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    It’s a pretty accurate narrative. We haven’t had the big 3 in 5 years. The LMA/DDR years were ripe for mid season trades.
    The LMA/DDR years were not ripe for trades because they were still trying to compete. This year is fundamentally different and if people want to act stupid and say that its the same old same old then by all means.

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    We just paid Huthison’s ~4mm contract for a 2022 SRP. So two SRP’s and an expiring contract is probably something they’d consider. Additionally, if Thad isn’t looking to take much off the table in a buyout a single SRP and an expiring still makes sense.
    Yeah, they did that in the offseason without having to send anything out in the trade. They made that trade into cap room. They essentially abought a SRP.

    The difference is that this time we'd be sending out an asset and once we do it we can't take it back. The difference is also that Washington sucks, and Pheonix is not, and the value of the a SRP from the Suns isn't very high since its likely whomever you draft at that point in the 2nd round have a decent chance of signing as an undrafted player.

    The Spurs may very well trade Thad for a 2nd rounder. But there is ZERO reason for them to do so and eat salary before the deadline. And if Thad doesn't wnat to give the Spurs savings on his contract in a buyout, then he can sit on the bench for the rest of the year. With as much as he's ed this year, that seems extremely unlikely.

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    The LMA/DDR years were not ripe for trades because they were still trying to compete. This year is fundamentally different and if people want to act stupid and say that its the same old same old then by all means.
    Still trying to compete I would have expected them to be buyers. I’d rather wait for the offseason to make any drastic moves, after we have hopefully drafted a starter. Now that we are firmly in the lottery and have a good idea of what we have in our guys the deadline may be a good time to opportunistically sell however.

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    The LMA/DDR years were not ripe for trades because they were still trying to compete. This year is fundamentally different and if people want to act stupid and say that its the same old same old then by all means.
    I don’t see you making any great argument here. They could have easily tried to move LMA earlier to better shape the roster to complement DDR in order to win, if winning was their goal. But they didn’t. More likely they saw a rebuild was inevitable and eventually accepted it after it was too late. Seems like the same mentality to me. Sort of a Taoist approach they’ve always done. Let everyone freak out and panic, and wait for a golden opportunity in case it presents itself. Trading DDR showed good initiative, and maybe a new trend, but still too early to say.

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