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    Oh you mean by spying on a duly elected POTUS, trying to blackmail him, having kangaroo court show trials, running a coup against him, etc? You won't touch on any of that because you're in a cult bro. It is what it is.
    I don't run away from any conversation, tbh. He was a legit POTUS for the duration of his term. There was nothing 'kangaroo' or illegal about his impeachments, it actually doesn't get any more cons utional than that.

    He was investigated and cleared by a Special Counsel, for alleged crimes much bigger than a blowjob, so I don't know why we're going to pretend that the bar is much higher now.

    your democracy btw because we're a Democratic Republic which is what you should've learned first before you got your citizenship here. Again, you hold no allegiance here but it's ok.
    This is what it all boils down to. You only like democracy when your candidate wins. That's your 'allegiance'. Sorry, democracy doesn't work like that, not in America anyways. You don't get to impose your view of what America is or needs to be on others. Everybody votes and has a say.

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    This is what it all boils down to. You only like democracy when your candidate wins. That's your 'allegiance'. Sorry, democracy doesn't work like that, not in America anyways. You don't get to impose your view of what America is or needs to be on others. Everybody votes and has a say.
    Nah bro I don't try to conflate issues or blur the lines... WE ARE A ING DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC AND NOT A ING DEMOCRACY so get it right already you leftists.

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    Nah bro I don't try to conflate issues or blur the lines... WE ARE A ING DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC AND NOT A ING DEMOCRACY so get it right already you leftists.
    lol caps. Nobody is conflating anything here. Maybe you need to grab a dictionary and a copy of the US Cons ution and start reading (see footnote below)

    de·moc·ra·cy
    noun
    a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

    Being a Republic doesn't preclude the fact that we run a democratic process, and thus that makes us a democracy (the historically longest uninterrupted one at that)

    See:
    US Cons ution, Article 1 Section 4, Clause 1
    Fifteen Amendment of the US Cons ution.
    Nineteenth Amendment of the US Cons ution.

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    double post

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    El tell that to all your buddies who want to eliminate the EC, pack the SC, and take our rights away carte blanche.

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    El tell that to all your buddies who want to eliminate the EC, pack the SC, and take our rights away carte blanche.
    1) Removing the Electoral College, if replaced with direct elections, would still make this country a Republic and still a democracy. So that doesn't really invalidate anything said before.
    2) The Supreme Court is not a democratically elected body, and at least so far, it's composition hasn't changed (and if it did, it wouldn't be the first time in this country's history either).

    That said, I don't think either is likely, at least in the short term. When it comes to "take away rights carte blanche", a Cons utional Amendment has a very high bar, one that's unsurmountable right now.

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    Voters send stark message to pundits who jumped the gun


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    Karen Bass was outspent 10-1

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    Voters send stark message to pundits who jumped the gun

    SeCuRe Da EleCtIoNs!

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    More stark messages sent to Democrats by final primary tallies






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    someone help nono in cali,,,give him a few dollars when he see him on the corner

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    someone help nono in cali,,,give him a few dollars when he see him on the corner
    ^^^ triggered Democrats won in a landslide again, and this thread is just another backfire

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    California GOP

    ‘Join us in California.’ Gavin Newsom running a reelection ad — in Florida

    Gov. Gavin Newsom is launching his first television ad of the general election on Monday, but not in California. The ad will air thousands of miles away, in Florida, further fueling speculation that he wants to run for president — or, at a minimum, to troll the state’s Republican leaders.

    In the ad, Newsom contrasts the policies in California and Florida while images flash of former President Trump and Gov. Ron DeSantis, potential 2024 presidential candidates.

    “Freedom, it’s under attack in your state. Republican leaders, they’re banning books, making it harder to vote, restricting speech in classrooms, even criminalizing women and doctors,” Newsom says in the 30-second spot. “I urge all of you living in Florida to join the fight, or join us in California, where we still believe in freedom — freedom of speech, freedom to choose, freedom from hate and the freedom to love.”

    Newsom’s gubernatorial campaign is spending about $105,000 to air the ad on Fox News stations around the state, according to AdImpact, a firm that tracks political advertisements. The ad is running on Independence Day, when most voters are unlikely to be glued to their television sets. The move, which was rolled out on CNN on Sunday, appears designed to draw national media attention.

    The size of the buy is a pittance for the governor, whose reelection campaign had more than $23 million as of May 21, according to the latest filings with the secretary of state’s office. Newsom is heavily favored in the fall election over his conservative Republican challenger, state Sen. Brian Dahle, from Northern California.

    Newsom, 54, has repeatedly denied that he wants to run for president, but many political experts are skeptical, particularly considering the speculation, warranted or not, about President Biden’s plans to seek reelection.

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...ads-in-florida



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    trying to run a republican as a democrat and still losing
    so weak, the good governor can just run campaign ads in another state
    tried to recall him, won with a bigger margin than the election that got him his job

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    California GOP

    ‘Join us in California.’ Gavin Newsom running a reelection ad — in Florida

    Gov. Gavin Newsom is launching his first television ad of the general election on Monday, but not in California. The ad will air thousands of miles away, in Florida, further fueling speculation that he wants to run for president — or, at a minimum, to troll the state’s Republican leaders.

    In the ad, Newsom contrasts the policies in California and Florida while images flash of former President Trump and Gov. Ron DeSantis, potential 2024 presidential candidates.

    “Freedom, it’s under attack in your state. Republican leaders, they’re banning books, making it harder to vote, restricting speech in classrooms, even criminalizing women and doctors,” Newsom says in the 30-second spot. “I urge all of you living in Florida to join the fight, or join us in California, where we still believe in freedom — freedom of speech, freedom to choose, freedom from hate and the freedom to love.”

    Newsom’s gubernatorial campaign is spending about $105,000 to air the ad on Fox News stations around the state, according to AdImpact, a firm that tracks political advertisements. The ad is running on Independence Day, when most voters are unlikely to be glued to their television sets. The move, which was rolled out on CNN on Sunday, appears designed to draw national media attention.

    The size of the buy is a pittance for the governor, whose reelection campaign had more than $23 million as of May 21, according to the latest filings with the secretary of state’s office. Newsom is heavily favored in the fall election over his conservative Republican challenger, state Sen. Brian Dahle, from Northern California.

    Newsom, 54, has repeatedly denied that he wants to run for president, but many political experts are skeptical, particularly considering the speculation, warranted or not, about President Biden’s plans to seek reelection.

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...ads-in-florida



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    trying to run a republican as a democrat and still losing
    so weak, the good governor can just run campaign ads in another state
    tried to recall him, won with a bigger margin than the election that got him his job
    dumbass,,,california is one of the most moved out of states in America,,,Texas is one of the most moved into states,,,,

    per Forbes,,,

    According to USPS change-of-address data, these are the 10 top states people are fleeing.
    1. California

    2021 saw a net loss of over 101 thousand households in California despite a mostly pleasant climate and robust tech industry. Rising housing costs, rising taxes and politics seem to be driving many people to look for opportunities elsewhere. Other factors that emigrants have cited are the rising threat of wildfires and the constantly increasing cost of living. Many families from the state are relocating to Texas.

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    dumbass,,,california is one of the most moved out of states in America,,,Texas is one of the most moved into states,,,,

    per Forbes,,,

    According to USPS change-of-address data, these are the 10 top states people are fleeing.
    1. California

    2021 saw a net loss of over 101 thousand households in California despite a mostly pleasant climate and robust tech industry. Rising housing costs, rising taxes and politics seem to be driving many people to look for opportunities elsewhere. Other factors that emigrants have cited are the rising threat of wildfires and the constantly increasing cost of living. Many families from the state are relocating to Texas.
    changing the subject

    but, I'll indulge: if you're poor, you certainly should be moving to hole states like Texas or Florida, tbh...

    California, the largest economy in the US by a long mile, has definitely become overpopulated and housing prices are prohibitive. A victim of it's own success in those areas, and why lowly states like Texas are begging California companies to move there.

    But certainly, if you can't afford to live here, you should definitely seek your fortune with the rest of the peasants in cheaper states like Texas, etc...

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    air the ad on Fox News stations around the state,
    Excellent troll job. Been waiting for the Dems to do this, so long overdue.
    On Fox to boot.

    Q. Does Faux have to accept the ad money and run the ads due to business discrimination laws, or just being the amoral s they are at Fox they accept the ads and money?

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    changing the subject

    but, I'll indulge: if you're poor, you certainly should be moving to hole states like Texas or Florida, tbh...

    California, the largest economy in the US by a long mile, has definitely become overpopulated and housing prices are prohibitive. A victim of it's own success in those areas, and why lowly states like Texas are begging California companies to move there.

    But certainly, if you can't afford to live here, you should definitely seek your fortune with the rest of the peasants in cheaper states like Texas, etc...
    The 41 companies and their new home states include the following:

    Gordon Ramsay North American Restaurant HQ (Texas).
    Old Gringo Boots (Texas).
    Nexen Tire (Ohio).
    Tesla Motors (Texas).
    OrangeGrid (Texas).
    Cangsuhan Cutlery (Texas).
    AECOM (Texas).
    Homelight (Arizona).
    MD7 (Texas).
    Ocean Aero (Mississippi).
    Kaiser Aluminium (Tennessee).
    Precision Swiss Products (North Carolina).
    AFC Finishing Systems (North Carolina).
    Andamiro USA (Texas).
    Landing (Alabama).
    Nessei (Texas).
    Snowflake (Montana).
    Green Dot (Texas).
    AHV Communities (Texas).
    DARVIS (Tennessee).
    SmartAction (Texas).
    Wedgewood (Texas).
    First Foundation (Texas).
    Flannery Trim (Texas).
    GlobalFoundries (New York).
    Markaaz (Texas).
    Nissei America (Texas).
    Pay Certify (Nevada).
    Educational Media Foundation (Tennessee).
    Huckleberry Insurance (New York).
    Moov Technologies (Arizona).
    NinjaRMM (Texas).
    Wiley X (Texas).
    Viavi Solutions (Arizona).
    ZP Better Together (Texas).
    Align Technology (Arizona).
    Alpha Paw (Texas).
    Amazing Magnets (Texas).
    Digital Realty Trust (Texas).
    Lion Real Estate Group (Texas).
    OPSWAT (Florida).

    Wouldn't call these "poor".

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    The 41 companies and their new home states include the following:

    Gordon Ramsay North American Restaurant HQ (Texas).
    Old Gringo Boots (Texas).
    Nexen Tire (Ohio).
    Tesla Motors (Texas).
    OrangeGrid (Texas).
    Cangsuhan Cutlery (Texas).
    AECOM (Texas).
    Homelight (Arizona).
    MD7 (Texas).
    Ocean Aero (Mississippi).
    Kaiser Aluminium (Tennessee).
    Precision Swiss Products (North Carolina).
    AFC Finishing Systems (North Carolina).
    Andamiro USA (Texas).
    Landing (Alabama).
    Nessei (Texas).
    Snowflake (Montana).
    Green Dot (Texas).
    AHV Communities (Texas).
    DARVIS (Tennessee).
    SmartAction (Texas).
    Wedgewood (Texas).
    First Foundation (Texas).
    Flannery Trim (Texas).
    GlobalFoundries (New York).
    Markaaz (Texas).
    Nissei America (Texas).
    Pay Certify (Nevada).
    Educational Media Foundation (Tennessee).
    Huckleberry Insurance (New York).
    Moov Technologies (Arizona).
    NinjaRMM (Texas).
    Wiley X (Texas).
    Viavi Solutions (Arizona).
    ZP Better Together (Texas).
    Align Technology (Arizona).
    Alpha Paw (Texas).
    Amazing Magnets (Texas).
    Digital Realty Trust (Texas).
    Lion Real Estate Group (Texas).
    OPSWAT (Florida).

    Wouldn't call these "poor".
    I mean, I would? Except for GlobalFoundries and Tesla? That said, most of those companies are simply moving their HQs for tax purposes (companies moving to NY would be the exception here, I suspect there was a tax break involved). ie: Tesla Motors is not moving operations away from California. They're keeping their factory here, since California happens to be their largest market as well.

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    Lol "old gringo boots" has 24 employees per Google search.

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    changing the subject

    but, I'll indulge: if you're poor, you certainly should be moving to hole states like Texas or Florida, tbh...

    California, the largest economy in the US by a long mile, has definitely become overpopulated and housing prices are prohibitive. A victim of it's own success in those areas, and why lowly states like Texas are begging California companies to move there.

    But certainly, if you can't afford to live here, you should definitely seek your fortune with the rest of the peasants in cheaper states like Texas, etc...

    I can easily afford to live here. Doesn't mean I should have to accept the open corruption here. Det surplus is a great marketing tool, it's a shame it's rarely mentioned in full context when used to brag about the state burning hardest to the ground.

    Our economy? Great for people who hate the poor. Aren't you an immigrant from a South American country?

    Everything else in this state? ing rotten. The self-made water issue. They could build 15 water desalination plants and still have cashish left. The homeless problem the Mayor of LA and his minions have been been busted openly robbing the tax payers to shelter just a handful of the homeless, 85-90% of which are California natives? And then the fact we're one of the literal dumbest states (our public school system is failing worse than any Red state) is just unacceptable. There's nothing to brag about in California. We're Kentucky, just dumber but with more money and the Mexicans make up for the difference in cousin- ing.

    I mean, I get it. You're doing what I said you do- living to "own the ST Trump s"- but do you honestly, no troll-mo, think this state is in a good condition so far as its people are concerned?

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    I can easily afford to live here. Doesn't mean I should have to accept the open corruption here. Det surplus is a great marketing tool, it's a shame it's rarely mentioned in full context when used to brag about the state burning hardest to the ground.

    Our economy? Great for people who hate the poor. Aren't you an immigrant from a South American country?

    Everything else in this state? ing rotten. The self-made water issue. They could build 15 water desalination plants and still have cashish left. The homeless problem the Mayor of LA and his minions have been been busted openly robbing the tax payers to shelter just a handful of the homeless, 85-90% of which are California natives? And then the fact we're one of the literal dumbest states (our public school system is failing worse than any Red state) is just unacceptable. There's nothing to brag about in California. We're Kentucky, just dumber but with more money and the Mexicans make up for the difference in cousin- ing.

    I mean, I get it. You're doing what I said you do- living to "own the ST Trump s"- but do you honestly, no troll-mo, think this state is in a good condition so far as its people are concerned?
    I already mentioned housing is a big problem, and just like every State, they have problems to deal with. At the very bottom, the homeless issue is exacerbated due to the housing issue, but the only real difference between California and Texas when it comes to them, is that Texas jails them to get them out of the view. That's certainly not a long term solution either, tbh.

    Corruption is a country-wide problem, and a serious one. I'm not going to defend or justify it. However, it would be plain silly to pretend there's not as much, if not more corruption in other States. Heck, even the Texas AG is embroiled in a criminal case on corruption charges, and if you dig a bit on the corruption cases in the south of that State, you'll find plenty of corruption to talk about. I lived in NJ for 20 years, same , at went all over to the top of government (ie: bridgegate). The difference in California is that it manages a major budget and major money, so numbers are generally bigger.

    I am an immigrant, yes, and I've done well for myself, not sure what that has to do with anything, tbh?

    Frankly, living in any major city just costs a lot of money. Housing is especially hard to find, and this applies evenly to California as it does to New York, to name a few. When I was in Jersey, a lot of people lived on that side of the river, because they couldn't afford to live in NY. Stratification is an unfortunate part of success.

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    Lol "old gringo boots" has 24 employees per Google search.
    How many do you have?

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    I mean, I would? Except for GlobalFoundries and Tesla? That said, most of those companies are simply moving their HQs for tax purposes (companies moving to NY would be the exception here, I suspect there was a tax break involved). ie: Tesla Motors is not moving operations away from California. They're keeping their factory here, since California happens to be their largest market as well.
    You're the one who said poor people. Chop chop.

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    no stark msg

    not California

    only a minority of SFO voters, propagandized by $6M from big tech and police union

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