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Yes, there are many women who are evil and conniving... But I wouldn't say it's 95%. That's exaggerating a little. You guys just have to keep searching for the good ones. I promise you they're out there.
YOU TELL 'EM SISTA'!
They just haven't met women like us.
Yes, there are many women who are evil and conniving... But I wouldn't say it's 95%. That's exaggerating a little. You guys just have to keep searching for the good ones. I promise you they're out there.
By unconditional love do you mean "I'll still love you even if all of your hair falls out and you gain 30 pounds," or unconditional love as in "You're going to put up with whatever I feel like dishing out and like it ... I don't have to be responsible, thoughtful, or kind and to with you if you don't like it."
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No. My self-respect is worth more.
If he'd been disabled, it would be different. But he was an intelligent and physically strong man. There was no reason for him not to work, he just didn't want to, he was lazy. He admitted that. I cannot abide anyone who has no ambition, even if I love them. Everyone in this world should be striving to make themselves better. I could never live with someone who did not feel the same way.
I can say he was the love of my life because he was. I never loved anyone before or since like I loved him. I made sacrifices for him that I would never have made for another human. Even he doesn't know what all I did for him.
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You have a duty to yourself as well. Loving someone doesn't mean giving yourself up to them, it means putting them ahead of yourself, but you still have to have a care for yourself.
Do you really think it's ok for one partner to put in all the work while the other partner does nothing? I bring in 90% of the money in my relationship, because my husband is still in school. I'm ok with that. He's ok with that. He contributes in other ways - cooks, cleans, does laundry. He's a wonderful man who wants to make sure that we are equal partners.
If someone refuses to pull their weight in a relationship, be it fiscally, at home or emotionally, it becomes a toll on the other person, and, in my experience, ends up being abusive. Because the person not contributing anything enjoys that power and manipulates the other partner to continue that power kick.
But this is only my experience. Shrug.
Batman,
Your statement is inherently contradictory. In the scenarios you described, the heartless acts you are attributing to the women are a reaction to the scorning (ie..heartless actions) by a man.
In smotpoker's case though, maybe his girlfriend was just further along in the separation process than he his. Since it's been on her mind for a while then she might have already emotionally left the relationship long before she physically left. So by the time Smotpoker was clued in, it was too late. Or maybe she was sending him clues all along and he didn't get them and all the while she was pulling further and further away until finally she was done. Just because one person is at a different place emotionally doesn't make either one of them wrong, just wrong for each other. Sometimes they can find their way back to each other and sometimes the one who left is just too far gone.
Since he has not responded I must conclude that he is indeed moose.I think I may know you... I know someone who smokes pot, lives in mother's garage, has no transportation, calls his mom to pick him up from the club at 2 a.m. after closing, rarely has a job, has deluded musical aspirations, graduated from Brackenridge high school yet tells everyone he went to Central Catholic, and his nickname is moose. Is this you? If so, I hope she stays away from you loser!If not, I hope you keep your job and better yourself with or without her.
I went through this a few years back. I never really had been with anybody for more then like seven months and was the one who would break off relationships.
I then met my so called first love. We were together for almost three years. Well, she said she needed some time. Yeah right. I found out the hard way that she wanted to go out and meet other guys. How do I know? I busted her. We showed up at the same bar one night. I was there first with a few friends of mine (two of them were girls who knew about my break up). One of them was very pretty, but a bit too hoochie for me. Well, my ex walks in and is there with some other girl and some guy talking. I didn't go up to her and waited for her to see me.
She walked to the restroom and saw this very cute girl (my friend) holding onto my arm and had a fit. She called me from the restroom on my cell and gave me a lot of crap. That right there showed me what kind of girl she was. A girl I didn't want to be with. You know why? If she wouldn't have seen me at the bar with a cute friend, she would have never called and confessed all these things.
I say that if someone really loves you, that they will do anything to be with you. She probably fell out of love for some reason. You need to move on. Its very hard. Very, very hard. You can do it though. Start hanging out with friends and keep busy. One day at a time.
Very good question.
Find another date and show up somewhere you know she'll be.
It works all the time on TV.
GOD DAMN YOU GUYS ALWAYS GOTTA THINK THAT THIS WAS DONE TO ME, THAT IF A GIRL EVERY LEFT ME AND ED MY FRIEND THAT WOULD BE DEAD....BESIDES MY FRIENDS WOULD SLAP A HOE FOR COMING ON TO THEM AFTER BEING WITH ME MY FRIENDS DONT DO THAT ...SO STOP ASSUMING IVE JUST SEEN IT DONE TO TOO MANY PEOPLE.....THATS ALL
I agree with this. One month? For a lot of jobs it takes just that long to hear back from someone about an interview.
Thank you i just don't know how to keep my mouth shut sometimes and im a very vulger person
Thats why I like batman he says the I think.
Man, if I'm looking for relationship advice the last place I'm looking for it is from Zak.
you are wise.
but i challenge anyone to point out where i led potsmoker wrong.
oh, and here's some more advice....put the joint down smoker!
when your ready, of course...
I do too, to a point. It depends on the history, though. How many times has he been without a job for a month. And how long does he work between the months he doesn't have a job. I believe in giving every possible chance. But, I also, based on personal experience, believe in setting limits. And, unfortunately, the consequences of crossing the limit have to be permanent...otherwise they mean nothing.
knowing is half the battle my friend. Goodluck to you, and Godbless you.
You MUST learn to love yourself. Figure out why you don't and fix it.
relationships will be a very easy after that. i promise.
listen man, i have a hard time believing any woman has done you wrong in a way that you didn't do her wrong 1st.
tell me i'm wrong. i want to be wrong.
but what chick made you turn against them. what did she do to you bro?
IF you want to share...if not, no biggie. But Godbless you man.
unconditional love is very rare, but very possible.
Regarding your example, all I can say is that unconditional LOVE MUST be a two way street.
If it's only ONE sided. Then the person doing all the loving is getting all the pain as well. And that's sad.
True, I am basing this solely on what OP told us.
Okay look i was with this girl in high school this was the only time ive been done wrong, i care about this girl like with everything back then....and this girl was ing around with her "best friend" the whole time, i didnt i was taken advantage of....women sometimes just have no heart....this was back in high school i dont carry that at ude with me now going into relationships but i know that some girls/women have no hearts i have friends that are women that play stupid mind games with men because previous men ed them over....so they think all men are the same.....
i'm sorry to hear that man. you just gotta remember that that was back in highschool, and we were all kids mentally back then.
there are a whole lot more Good Women out there than bad women.
and 99.9% of the bad women? They were made that way by asshole men that lied and used them and mistreated them.
You are a GOOD man. Be true to yourself and the woman of your dreams will fall into your lap. But until your ready, go for it, have your fun, and just be safe.
OK, batman, then it's a testament to your friends' poor choices in women.
Also, all women are not like that, and to paint us that way is personally insulting. You were bothered when you thought I assumed you were talking about yourself? It's insulting to read that all women (which must include me) are cold heartless es. I may be a (and am on certain occasions) but very, very, very rarely to the people I love.
if she says she still loves you and she thinks about taking you back then she does. she;s not lying. But thats the emotionla side of her.
The practical side of her can't continue a relationship where her partner has not job and hence she doesn't feel secure. She may also feel that you aren't serious about settling down or are capable of settling down .... since you don't have a job or steady employment. Talking about getting married and then taking the steps to make that happen are 2 different things.
somethign similar happened between my brother and my best friend. they were dating seriously for 3 years... she was ready to get married, and he said he was also.
But he diin;t have a job, wasn't looking for one.. kept commiting to one thign or another and then not following thru. basically he wasn't shapign up to be marriage material. So they broke up, she starting dating another young guy and they got married last year.meanwhile my brother is stil out floating in the wind. He has a serious/not so serious girlfriend, a band, and an on again off again job.
i nthe end they just had 2 different goals even tho they didn't recognize it to start with.
what i can say is i know that a lot of women are messed up when they get into relationships now days because someone has ed them over in previous relationships the difference between women and men sometimes is that us men will get over it and love someone again in the next relationship, where as women carry what id like to call baggage from the past relationships and automatically think that that the new guy is going to be like the old guy was.......this is a classical form of what i like to call "Damaged Goods" i have turned a few damaged goods around in my day trying to show women that not all men are the same, but i mean come on why does it take like a dream guy to do stuff like that women should start a clean slate when they start talking to new guys
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