Article: What We Know About the Joshua Primo Situation

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Never understood what anyone saw in him other than size.

Might be his private parts

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Seriously, must be ing awful. Some people on this board have never worked in the real world, where just goes wrong or ballistic and there's a cataract of to deal with in the aftermath. It's more than obvious that the Spurs were not expecting nor planning this, and I feel bad for them, the employees at least.

This is inarguable but it needs some context. Yes, the Spurs were obviously blindsided by this or they wouldn't have picked up his 3rd year. And yes, it's obviously NOT their "fault."

Howevaaaaah...they should not have reached on him. It was not only shocking when it happened on draft day for Spur fans, but to basketball analysts. He was very young and perhaps brought in as a hail mary to replace neph, like only they saw the potential. Furthermore, they shouldn't beat their chest about drafting character in addition to talent since each of Primo, Samanic, and Murray have displayed troubling behavior at times. And only Murray is even still on the team or even in the league. They've obviously failed in that regard at a very high clip lately, and since they brag about it as part of their draft process, they should probably quit until they keep a few around again.

All in all, PATFO certainly doesn't look like a vase of flowers in all of this. Time for some humble pie. Take your lumps. Swallow your pill. Or use whatever analogy you want. Spurs have to reassess accordingly.

[KingKev]

Never understood what anyone saw in him other than size.

Blame it on Canada!!But yeah we just committed 12m and 2 years of development for a guy who was eventually going to become a hybrid of D White and Walker IV.

[Extra Stout]

I agree with those who point out that scouting for character is highly unreliable, all the more so with 18-year-olds.

“Spurs culture” was Tim Duncan and Manu Ginóbili. This conceit about how the organization is the reason for winning comes from the exact same hubris Jerry Krause had in Chicago back in the day. What have the Bulls accomplished since 1998?

[Extra Stout]

I don’t have a problem with trying to hit home runs in the draft. But Primo was like swinging at a pitch a foot and a half off the plate. He never showed that much to begin with. His being waived probably because of character issues doesn’t sting because it seems like a potential All-Star down the drain. It stings because it makes it look like the Spurs’ front office has no idea what it’s doing.

On the other hand, Keldon Johnson. And Devin Vassell. And Jeremy Sochan. And maybe Blake Wesley.

[Dex]

I don’t have a problem with trying to hit home runs in the draft. But Primo was like swinging at a pitch a foot and a half off the plate. He never showed that much to begin with. His being waived probably because of character issues doesn’t sting because it seems like a potential All-Star down the drain. It stings because it makes it look like the Spurs’ front office has no idea what it’s doing.

On the other hand, Keldon Johnson. And Devin Vassell. And Jeremy Sochan. And maybe Blake Wesley.

The irony is that so many people here have gotten tired of the Spurs taking the safe pick. They want them to SWING FOR THE FENCES.

Well, sometimes when you swing for the fences, you strike out or hit it into center field's glove.

A lot still remains to be seen about this situation, but...people can't get upset that the Spurs took a reach on guys like Primo or Samanic if they also want them to take gambles in the draft.

Still should have taken Sengun though

[dbestpro]

Well at least we won't have to argue what a bad pick he was anymore.

[Extra Stout]

The irony is that so many people here have gotten tired of the Spurs taking the safe pick. They want them to SWING FOR THE FENCES.

Well, sometimes when you swing for the fences, you strike out or hit it into center field's glove.

I think Blake Wesley is an example of swinging for the fences properly. His floor is “not an NBA player” and his ceiling is “rich man’s Russell Westbrook.” And at 25 he was not a reach at all.

[SpurPadre]

I agree with those who point out that scouting for character is highly unreliable, all the more so with 18-year-olds.

“Spurs culture” was David Robinson, Tim Duncan and Manu Ginóbili. This conceit about how the organization is the reason for winning comes from the exact same hubris Jerry Krause had in Chicago back in the day. What have the Bulls accomplished since 1998?

FIFY.

[slick'81]

Pressure was probably too much for the kid. He wasn't even expecting to be drafted that high anyway

[Chomag]

Well at least we won't have to argue what a bad pick he was anymore.

True, but don't count out the sniffers ability to spin this

[KingKev]

Pressure was probably too much for the kid. He wasn't even expecting to be drafted that high anyway

It’s called “grooming” unless it’s coach Pop aka the godfather offering an underage youth a glass of wine before telling him he is the future



This work both ways.

[Darius Bieber]

Probably was pro-Trump and Pop thought it was a mental illness tbh

[KingKev]

True, but don't count out the sniffers ability to spin this

Even they can’t stand the stench of grandpa’s depends but they’ll find a way.

[Ariel]

The irony is that so many people here have gotten tired of the Spurs taking the safe pick. They want them to SWING FOR THE FENCES.

Well, sometimes when you swing for the fences, you strike out or hit it into center field's glove.

A lot still remains to be seen about this situation, but...people can't get upset that the Spurs took a reach on guys like Primo or Samanic if they also want them to take gambles in the draft.

I don't think most people were "tired of taking the safe pick", but rather going against common sense. Our best picks in the past 10 years (Dejounte & Keldon) weren't swings, actually they were guys who fell to their laps and common sense suggested their talent level was way beyond their pick. The safe pick in 2020 would have us pick Haliburton, and in 2021 it was Sengun. This draft class a lot of us wanted Sochan or Mathurin for exactly the same things they're showing on the court (potential & fit) as opposed to say Dieng who has large bust potential. Same with Branham and Wesley. Sometimes an infatuation may pan out, but more times than not it's the clear choice that ends up the better one.

[R. DeMurre]

The NBA draft process has definitely changed in the last couple of decades. Nowadays, a senior in college with good stats and a successful team actually raises red flags, where most people assume there must be issues that would likely deter a great showing in the NBA. The monetary rewards are just too great for most prospects to ignore, or to risk injury in college for. That wasn't always the case-- certainly not with Timmy or the Admiral. The #1 pick and other top lottery guys now are almost exclusively teenagers with one year of college experience, and that adds a greater variance to the simple concept of assessing character. How many of you have known or seen a person who matured dramatically between the ages of 18 and 22/23? I know I have. Or those that didn't, at all? Same thing... seen that too.

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Probably was pro-Trump and Pop thought it was a mental illness tbh

It is.

[rascal]

I think Blake Wesley is an example of swinging for the fences properly. His floor is “not an NBA player” and his ceiling is “rich man’s Russell Westbrook.” And at 25 he was not a reach at all.

Exactly, Primo was a reach and it was poor scouting thinking he had high level skills that would translate to anything more than an off the bench rotation player.

[Ariel]

Exactly, Primo was a reach and it was poor scouting thinking he had high level skills that would translate to anything more than an off the bench rotation player.

Hey rascal, your boy Sharpe looking good!

[buttsR4rebounding]

Exposing himself to women.

[Sugus]

What a ing creep, I can't believe the news. Holy . Absolutely not what I was expecting to be behind this.

What a bull statement he put up, Jesus.

Tell me again about how the Spurs should've seen coming that a 19 year-old kid was a flasher.

[boutons_deux]

OK with lots of progressives

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[longhorn]

Good riddance. And good on the Spurs for acting swiftly.

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[slick'81]

Jesus, joshua you sicko