Spurs add new shooting coach Jimmy Baron

[exstatic]

yeah, that's an awful take from this guy, since the guy can just walk his way to a 10 foot jumper.. how long does he expect the spurs offence to not figure that out ?

He needs to start shooting that jumper over the shorter defenders to force teams to guard him with a big.

[RC_Drunkford]

THIS is the coach that should be fired. A LOT of problems would just evaporate if 3-4 guys could elevate their long ball to just 35-36%. Not asking for Curry level results.

I'd rather fire the guy who hired him to be on his staff...

[J_Paco]

yeah, that's an awful take from this guy, since the guy can just walk his way to a 10 foot jumper.. how long does he expect the spurs offence to not figure that out ?

Yeah, two guys - that are both a foot shorter than him - standing in front of Wemby is "building a wall." LOL

Wemby needs to learn to be more physical and ing fight for positioning.

[exstatic]

I'd rather fire the guy who hired him to be on his staff...

Will that make us shoot better?

[exstatic]

Yeah, two guys - that are both a foot shorter than him - standing in front of Wemby is "building a wall." LOL

Wemby needs to learn to be more physical and ing fight for positioning.

He’s not built for that. He needs to shoot that ing shot right over the top of them. That’s the only way he breaks that defense.

[J_Paco]

He’s not built for that. He needs to shoot that ing shot right over the top of them. That’s the only way he breaks that defense.

Playing with toughness and punishing teams that played him with a guard or small forward is what got Dirk a ring. Victor is gonna have to make that shot over smaller defenders but also needs to punish them inside on the block.

He has some post moves and game, yet he's too enamored with playing 'like a guard' to use it constantly.

[DPG21920]

To me, it's really difficult to judge a shooting coach as an outsider observer. It's clearly not as simple as "Spurs don't shoot well, the shooting coach sucks." I don't know what to think about Jimmy Baron.

Baron was hired just before the Wembanyama draft. At that point, it was kinda logical to go after a shooting coach with no previous NBA experience given that Spurs were going through a slow rebuild. With Wembanyama speeding the rebuild, it's more questionable.

Even if it's hard to properly evaluate Baron for fans, it's quite easy for Pop, especially since he has worked with one of the best shooting coach for years. If Pop thinks he isn't good enough, Spurs shouldn't hesitate to hire an upgrade, even if it's costly.

Fair points but at end of the day if you’re seeing results every where else but not within your own program? It will raise some questions from outside looking in.

[playblair]

[exstatic]

Playing with toughness and punishing teams that played him with a guard or small forward is what got Dirk a ring. Victor is gonna have to make that shot over smaller defenders but also needs to punish them inside on the block.

He has some post moves and game, yet he's too enamored with playing 'like a guard' to use it constantly.

It’s not about wanting to. He’s not built to punish guys by posting them up. He’s not Joel ing Embiid. He’s 7’4” and 225. That’s the reason they check him with a solidly built wing. The only way to beat that defense is to shoot over the top of it until they decide to put someone bigger on him.

[spurraider21]

It’s not about wanting to. He’s not built to punish guys by posting them up. He’s not Joel ing Embiid. He’s 7’4” and 225. That’s the reason they check him with a solidly built wing. The only way to beat that defense is to shoot over the top of it until they decide to put someone bigger on him.

he can also step past them. we've seen him take the long strides then the weird little scoop shot. there are ways to post players up without having a big strength advantage

[R. DeMurre]

Pop has never been a proponent of the three ball, yet Chip stayed for 17 years. Don’t think that’s it.

Yeah, but the league has changed. In 2015, Houston led the entire league with 31.8 3ptFGA per game. Last season, 31.8 3ptFGA per game would've ranked 27th.

[objective]

Are they trying to lengthen the hitch? Get some wiggle and jiggle in the pause?

[Ice009]

Yeah, this guy doesn't look like a good shooting coach as I have no idea what he's trying to teach Jeremy.

[Bruno]

Fair points but at end of the day if you’re seeing results every where else but not within your own program? It will raise some questions from outside looking in.

It for sure raises questions, especially since as a new NBA shooting coach, he doesn't have a pedigree to have some trust in him. It's just that he has been here for a year and a half and I won't throw him under the bus because he hasn't turn Sochan, Wesley and Cissoko into good shooters.

There is also a little bias when looking at other teams. When looking at Spurs, you see the whole picture fails and success (mostly fails, sadly). When looking at other teams you see the successful players and not the failures because you don't notice the end of the bench player who never develops a jumpshot.

At the end, I'm hardly defending Baron. I have no reason to believe he is a good shooting coach. It's just that I don't have enough knowledge about him to say he is a bad one.

[Raven]

It’s not about wanting to. He’s not built to punish guys by posting them up. He’s not Joel ing Embiid. He’s 7’4” and 225. That’s the reason they check him with a solidly built wing. The only way to beat that defense is to shoot over the top of it until they decide to put someone bigger on him.

there's actually so many ways to beat that it is almost laughable.. anything other than dribble around

[Strategic]

Maybe nobody’s familiar with this coach because he’s working from home. “Don’t shoot til I reboot.” Pop likes to keep up with the times.

[Pauleta14]

I remember the pre-Chip days when Pop would on reporters asking about having adding shooting coach to the staff. His voice would drip with disdain as he explained with agitation that the coaches on staff worked with players shots everyday as it was, what the was a shooting coach going to go different?

Who knows what's going on in Pop's head nowadays?

This.

I remember clearly his sarcasm, downplaying the impact of a shooting coach as if it was diminishing his role in the players's performances.

God complex

[MarCowMar]

I hope Sochan was clowning with him. That looked ing awful.

[spurraider21]

I hope Sochan was clowning with him. That looked ing awful.

its exactly how it looked in preseason and so far this year. theyve gotten rid of the sideways rotation and 2 handed shot, but replaced it with the worst hitch this side of kyle anderson

[CGD]

its exactly how it looked in preseason and so far this year. theyve gotten rid of the sideways rotation and 2 handed shot, but replaced it with the worst hitch this side of kyle anderson

Lesser evil. That sidewinder was gross.

[hoopdreams11]

new shooting coach is needed fast

[hoopdreams11]

Oh my Collins just airballed a three

[exstatic]

Lesser evil. That sidewinder was gross.

Yeah, take steps. First get rid of the side spin. A hitch is easier to fix than that.

I still want a new shooting coach though, if this is all he can do with Jeremy and Blake in two years.

[ginobilized]

Who was the shooting coach's shooting coach?

[8FOR!3]

Yeah, take steps. First get rid of the side spin. A hitch is easier to fix than that.

I still want a new shooting coach though, if this is all he can do with Jeremy and Blake in two years.

Maybe ya'll are right. But this hitch looks atrocious. To the eye it looks like a regression to me. I just want to see something more natural, like his jumper in the paint. If he can't do that I'd rather him not take 3's for now. But maybe they think him taking 3's is essential for his progression if they're really overhauling his shot that much. That's fine and I can live with it.

The good news is he's clearly improving as a player. He's one guy I think is always going to make some sort of an impact and not just disappear like Keldon when his shot isn't falling (it never falls).