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    Certainly there is some time value of picks that needs to be taken into consideration. In the NFL, the rule of thumb is a round higher (a 4th rounder this year is worth a 3rd rounder next year). Of course the NBA is a lot different, but I'd have to imagine teams have a general idea of the time value of picks - of course there is the added wrinkle of uncertainty of where a pick may land in the future.
    Teams tend to greatly value current picks over future picks. That is, of the same round and vaguely of the same range. Teams need to produce new players and buzz for fans, GMs tend to like to keep their jobs.

    As for the Spurs, there's opportunity cost of waiting to pick players next year over this year (if we could trade next year's picks for this year). We know what players are available, we get another year to develop the pick(s) after selection, etc. Next year is filled with mystery boxes, like an advent calendar. If you like to roll the dice, you might take next year's 17 over this year's 22, but if you are comfortable with the players available this year, you take this year.

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    Click on the twitter icon in the advanced settings to insert the link.

    Thanks!

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    There's a whole bunch of people at the combine and no one knows what the spurs intend to do, starting by agents. How would they? This is not a tupperware reunion where eveyone knows and shares NBA GMs intentions... Nobody knows what the spurs want to do, except the spurs, they don't scream it around... And in the case spurs would have given their word to an agent, then ofc he wouldn't precisley talk. this is a business, not kindergarten.

    Tell me Woj, windhorst or Givony and we'll talk but even themselves have no idea.
    The one telltale sign that the Spurs might be interested in a player -- they don't invite him for a work out.

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    The one telltale sign that the Spurs might be interested in a player -- they don't invite him for a work out.
    They haven't worked me out once in the last 25 years. Still waiting for my name to be called on draft night

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    The one telltale sign that the Spurs might be interested in a player -- they don't invite him for a work out.
    Didn’t the spurs workout all 3 rookies last year?

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    What's the point of getting worked up over Barlowe? He's 'credible' in that he has media credentials, attends draft events, scouts overseas, scouts high schools, has some connections with agents and if I remember right was even involved with one of the smalltime unofficial combines a few years ago, the kind of thing that maybe got players noticed to get opportunities in third world countries. From what I can tell, scouting is his full time job.

    Obviously any rumors or speculation he reports is just that, rumors and speculation. But he is more 'credible' than 99.9% of anonymous Twitter users and YouTubers who click bait and make stuff up.

    He might be better to read then listen to his podcast, I find his vocal delivery monotone and grating with what I think is lots of mic popping.

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    Didn’t the spurs workout all 3 rookies last year?
    Malaki and Blake were in the same workout.

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    Packaging 33 and a first to add PG talent makes sense. I am just not sure we are going to get very far with that. Then again there are teams looking to dump salary and dissatisfied with their draft position so who knows.

    This offseason is a fun.

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    What you say is true, but patiently waiting in the Zen Garden for that which is unknowable in advance is not fun. Tranquil, perhaps, wise, even, but not fun.
    To speculate about the unknowable, to pretend to have special knowledge, to argue about it tirelessly, that is fun.
    Lol

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    Agents have been known to use lightly or non-connected media to spread false rumors.

    "OMG, Nic Batum has a heart condition!"
    And that is just it. They talk to agents, players, and club media directors mostly. Guys like Ford and Wojo have higher level contacts in board rooms so they tend to have more veracity.

    You can tell where the information is coming from generally. In this case it sounds like clubs are saying the Spurs are calling around about draft picks.

    They probably are it makes sense. That doesn't mean anything will come of it.

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    I really don’t see a guy to trade up for unless it’s into the top 10 tbh I really like Jalen Hood Schifino but I don’t think he worth moving assets for. Anthony Black and Casen Wallace are pipe dreams

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    I wonder if Orl would take Chi draft pick for their #11 this year. Throw in a 2nd this year and if we need to eat a contract or another 2nd somewhere I would do it.

    They have lots of young players already and have the #6 pick. This would allow them to push off the11th pick for another 2 years. If chicago decides to rebuild It could be better then the 11th pick. They also would get a 2nd this year to throw at someone as well as getting rid of a contract they dont want or another 2nd in the future.

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    Smells like Amen. There is realistic scenario where he drops to the 8-11 range.

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    Smells like Amen. There is realistic scenario where he drops to the 8-11 range.
    What realistic scenario has Amen going 8-11?

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    What realistic scenario has Amen going 8-11?
    Willy Wonka's Land of the Oompah Loompahs realistic scenario.
    I'm thinking of visiting, just for the awesome/awful (kind of weird when you say those two words close together and how they sound so similar and yet mean so different) takes I can get ridiculed for when I come back!

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    https://twitter.com/evantownsend_/st..._lBDsh5nxSLHUA

    im not sure why it’s not embedding
    Interesting. Townsend saying he's not that athletic while NBA Draftnet has his athleticism as a 9/10: Rayan Rupert - NBADraft.net

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    What realistic scenario has Amen going 8-11?
    Ausar going to HOU based on new rumors. Then it is DET, ORL , after Hayes and Suggs they won't take another poor shooting lead guard. IND has a primary and a big hole at the 4 spot. That leaves WAS at 8 and UTA at 9.

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    We don’t need more rookies people… any move worth making is for the swap of picks for vets. We currently have enough young talent.

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    Trim the non proven roster fat and move some of the expiring contracts.

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    We don’t need more rookies people… any move worth making is for the swap of picks for vets. We currently have enough young talent.
    I think we could use a couple more rookies. Most here think we need a PG rookie and I'm not opposed to it, but I think there's more value in one of the PF's that's likely to drop into the early-mid 20's. I also think we could use another rookie on a 2 way deal in the 2nd rd. I would like to add a couple of good locker room vets as well.

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    I think we could use a couple more rookies. Most here think we need a PG rookie and I'm not opposed to it, but I think there's more value in one of the PF's that's likely to drop into the early-mid 20's. I also think we could use another rookie on a 2 way deal in the 2nd rd. I would like to add a couple of good locker room vets as well.
    What are the PFs in the 20s? Like Kris Murray?

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    What the point adding late 1st round ? Would that PG be better than Tre Young as backup, long term ?

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    What are the PFs in the 20s? Like Kris Murray?
    Murray and Jackson

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    What are the PFs in the 20s? Like Kris Murray?
    According to NBADraft.net, Trayce Jackson-Davis (Indiana) and Noah Clowney (Alabama).

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    According to NBADraft.net, Trayce Jackson-Davis (Indiana) and Noah Clowney (Alabama).
    I've Clowney in there too (27 on my board).. I've got TJD as a 2nd rounder, but he is rising on others boards.

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