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They're cultists but they'll claim everyone not in the cult is a cultist.
STFU you ing pussy!
Tell us more about how racist and xenophobic you are or did you forget everything's archived here on ST?
You and the other blow hards continue to claim I and many others are uneducated but you are nothing but a ball of assumptions and you're wrong all the ing time. How's your education working out for you in that regard? Dumb !
They're cultists but they'll claim everyone not in the cult is a cultist.
Legacy is not about race.
SCOTUS has zero authority to ban them. Chump doesn't understand that.
Take it up with Harvard.
Why not?
Equal protection is equal.
Says who?????
They can't ban something that has nothing to do with their case. Do you understand how SCOTUS works?
Let's say a poor kid with better grades loses a spot to a rich legacy kid and sues..who do you side with?
PLZ DON'T TOUCH AFFIRMATIVE ACTION FOR MEDIOCRE WHITE STUDENTS.
"Clarence Thomas told staffers at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission that 'God only knows where I would be today' if not for the legal principles of equal employment opportunity measures such as affirmative action that are 'critical to minorities and women in this society,'" wrote Timothy Bella. "'These laws and their proper application are all that stand between the first 17 years of my life and the second 17 years,' Thomas, then the EEOC chairman, said in 1983. His comments were later cited in outlets including The Washington Post, the New York Times and Newsweek."
fify, cause we know it is about the $$$$$$$$
it's about clubbiness and intergenerational loyalty too.
Seeing a lot of braindead talk about legacy admissions. Legacies are actually treated mostly fairly.
If you're admitted to a school but then drop out, then we know tautologically that whatever caused you to do so was not measured by the admissions process, or else you wouldn't have been admitted in the first place. Actually graduating is another additional major barrier to entry. Whatever the unknown factors are (maybe drive for independent learning in an environment with more freedom? who knows, probably many different things), parents and children should correlate in them, and so legacy status should give real information about merit that grades and test scores do not.
Indeed, legacy students get the same college grades and drop out at the same rates as admitted non-legacies:
^ n=12k paper looking at prestigious schools. Despite the admissions preference they get, legacies achieve roughly equivalent overall college grades and superior within-major grades than admitted non-legacies (see figs 1 & 2).
In the regression controlling for race and major and parental education however, legacies do worse by a very small amount. The major control is fair since some majors are easier than others, but the race and education controls are spurious; they only make sense if you believe that whites and asians and the children of highly-educated people receive good college grades for reasons other than the merit of these groups. Given the derivative of american racial demographics WRT time (and of the strength of racial affirmative action policies), legacy admits will be a bit whiter than non-legacies and have more educated parents.
In any case, even with the spurious regression, this is only enough that the effect size becomes small (so small that p>.01 despite n=12k and outright p>.1 outright in the major model). That the effect size for college performance differences is so small in spite of the large admissions bonus means that even taking these (wrong) numbers at face value, legacy admits are treated almost entirely appropriately, and so the removal of the legacy bonus would increase the absolute value of the difference in college performance between legacies and non-legacies.
Note also that admitted non-legacies are a different population than the general applicant pool. Legacies generally have superior high school grades + test scores to the general applicant pool but are generally inferior to admitted non-legacies in high school grades + test scores; that this inferiority in high school performance results in equivalent college performance means that dropping the legacy bonus would result in legacies who have superior college performance. That legacies are admitted more than what would be otherwise merited by grades + SAT + etc alone is true and deserves to be called a bonus, but this does not contradict any of my arguments.
Now, is grade inflation one of the unknown factors legacies share with their kids? No. Any grade inflation from wealthy, aggressive helicopter parents should apply to highschool grades all the same, if not more, as kids have more independence in college. Moreover, most admitted students are not legacies and the parents of most legacies were not themselves legacies when they were admitted.
Finally, if I could add my two cents, it's actually a bad thing that the legacy bonus is only high enough to put legacies on even footing with other admitted students. A nation should put its ultra-smart in contact with its ultra-rich from a young age so that the nation's resources end up being marshaled towards the most effective ends.
Can you offer any examples such as
Affirmative action
"Systematic racism"
& CRT
Imagine thinking telling people they can enjoy the American Dream on their own capabilites is a lie and/or evil. More honorable than selling them victimbood.
Lol borrowing a text wall to avoid answering a simple question
What is CRT?
Then dont let legacies given any sort of preference either.
Its hypocrisy. Its very straight forward. Think about it.
In action CRT is called tell the truth concerning American history imo.
Team red and Frosty dont want to trifle with any stains revealed.
Specifically concerning people of different color and religion.
I personally had never heard of what happened in Tulsa. The basic destruction of a black population.
Frosty claims we should pass it by because history is much more expansive than this and it is.
But we also concentrate MORE on history that has effects on CURRENT notions which is completely incomprehensible to someone like Frosty because... but... but... "Europe has a very LONG history" This is one of the silliest arguments I have ever heard. Skip it because history is vast? Thats just stupid. There will come a time. But its not NOW. And current affairs will determine this. Donald Trump WILL be written extensively about imo mainly because of his total misunderstanding of what America is and because he is a supernarcissist. But the story will be told. And it will have its time.
That's fine. Atleast legacies have a part in the success the school is today. "They helped build it" but again I agree do away with it too.
You have to be gullible to believe there is only one truth in history or even life. CRT is typically one sides version.
Hispanic-American history should come first before Black-American. For every reason, except white liberals are submissive to blacks.
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Let me help you up off your knee brother
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