KAT to spurs rumours.

[Mr. Body]

Fair enough.

He is a "#1 guy", just not on a championship contender and he's definitely a "#2 guy" on one.

Again, not happening nor would I be in favor of it.

There's a difference between making an All-NBA (or All-Star) team(s) and being an All-NBA (or All-Star) player. Randle is the former, Towns is the latter.

KAT ain't a #2 guy. He's absolutely terrible in the playoffs. You're watching $55 million disappear when it counts.

[KobesAchilles]

The thing about Davis is that the Lakers win when he is willing to do the dirty work. He is a great defender to be sure and it’s his offense that goes up and down. That’s why Austin Reaves was so important to the team bc they had a a legit 3rd guy performing at a high level offensively to offset any AD shortcomings

AD can never be a one bc of his inability to be the anchor both on defense and offense. But Towns can never do the dirty work. Ever. I mean he even ignored KG when he was a pup and KG was telling him what to work on. Instead he focused all his energy on his 3 pointer. And somehow his ty defense became worse. It’s so bad that I can’t think of a softer 7 footer than him other than like Bargani (however the you spell his name). And since we need a person to do the dirty work for Wemby, Towns makes zero sense. AD would actually fit. But at 60 a year the Lakers have ed themselves for the next 3 years

[JPB]

We'd have to choose between KAT and KT (Kevin Tran) anyway.

[R. DeMurre]

Fair enough.

He is a "#1 guy", just not on a championship contender and he's definitely a "#2 guy" on one.

Again, not happening nor would I be in favor of it.

Sorry, I should have been more clear-- I meant not a #1 guy on a championship contender.

[Chinook]

I actually think Towns could end up being really good, but he still has to mature. He needs a good vet around him. Him having Old KG on the team now would be way more valuable than it was a few years ago when he was still trying to figure out his basic talent.

[exstatic]

I actually think Towns could end up being really good, but he still has to mature. He needs a good vet around him. Him having Old KG on the team now would be way more valuable than it was a few years ago when he was still trying to figure out his basic talent.

He's almost 28, and at this point, he should BE the vet, not need one.

[TD 21]

KAT ain't a #2 guy. He's absolutely terrible in the playoffs. You're watching $55 million disappear when it counts.

He has, but it's also a small sample size of 16 games, one of which, the initial time ('18), came in arguably a pre prime (at least age wise season) and another of which, the most recent time ('23), while medically cleared, came when he wasn't all the way back from a serious calf injury.

Of course an All-NBA caliber player is capable of being the "#2 guy" on a championship contender, when there's been tons of examples of lesser players being so.

[exstatic]

He has, but it's also a small sample size of 16 games, one of which, the initial time ('18), came in arguably a pre prime (at least age wise season) and another of which, the most recent time ('23), while medically cleared, came when he wasn't all the way back from a serious calf injury.

Of course an All-NBA caliber player is capable of being the "#2 guy" on a championship contender, when there's been tons of examples of lesser players being so.

All Star and All NBA selections tend to be popularity contests. Demar DeRozan has 6 of the former and 3 of the latter, more than KAT, and he isn't a #2 on a championship team.

The NBA isn't a meritocracy. A lot of what happens is driven by the networks and the shoe companies.

[spurraider21]

All Star and All NBA selections tend to be popularity contests. Demar DeRozan has 6 of the former and 3 of the latter, more than KAT, and he isn't a #2 on a championship team.

The NBA isn't a meritocracy. A lot of what happens is driven by the networks and the shoe companies.

are there any nba players you like?

could you name 5 guys you'd want on the spurs?

[TD 21]

All Star and All NBA selections tend to be popularity contests. Demar DeRozan has 6 of the former and 3 of the latter, more than KAT, and he isn't a #2 on a championship team.

The NBA isn't a meritocracy. A lot of what happens is driven by the networks and the shoe companies.

There's a difference between making an All-NBA (or All-Star) team(s) and being an All-NBA (or All-Star) player. Randle is the former, Towns is the latter.

[exstatic]

are there any nba players you like?

could you name 5 guys you'd want on the spurs?

I've always held the position that only about 20% of NBA players are capable of playing for Pop. Then, you have to get into things like salary cap, fit, timing.

Jokic
Freak
Haliburton
Jamal Murray
Bam
JJJ
Mobley
Mikal Bridges
Cam Johnson

There are some older players I like too, like Jrue, Middleton, and Conley who just don't fit our timeline.

[CGD]

The is no player I would want less on the spurs than this joker

[scott]

The is no player I would want less on the spurs than this joker

Harden immediately comes to mind but that's the only one I can think of.

[GAustex]

Do not want flat earther Irving

[GAustex]

Or Chris Paul

[Ninja Roach]

Harden immediately comes to mind but that's the only one I can think of.

Kyrie and Nephew both have the potential to cancer the team up enough to chase Wemby away as well.

Seems like some (not you, so forgive me for quoting) forget the bigger potential and that's that Wemby is still a young fella.
Put him in a bad environment and 1 of 2 disasters occur:

1) He gets fed up and walks because the franchise has saddled itself with chronic losers/cancers
2) He himself gets infected by said loseritis/cancer.

The franchise has been blessed. Their main objective is to not throw that blessing away frivolously. I've said it before, but Luka will probaby be looking for a new home pretty soon. The team's job should be to make us as desirable a location as possible by keeping our options open and allowing the assets we have to develop unhindered into their full potential.

KAT reminds me too much of DeRozan and Aldridge. Not bad people, but not helpful when your ultimate goal is being the best team in the NBA.

[exstatic]

Harden immediately comes to mind but that's the only one I can think of.

I read an article today that one of the things Harden is pissed off at is that he wasn’t selected an All Star. Dumbass doesn’t know that the FANS do that. Then, when offered a replacement slot, he dithered so long responding that they selected someone else. They were afraid he wouldn’t show, because they literally had to send a plane to fly him to the 75th anniversary celebration, and team announcement. What a ing tool.

[scott]

Kyrie and Nephew both have the potential to cancer the team up enough to chase Wemby away as well.

Seems like some (not you, so forgive me for quoting) forget the bigger potential and that's that Wemby is still a young fella.
Put him in a bad environment and 1 of 2 disasters occur:

1) He gets fed up and walks because the franchise has saddled itself with chronic losers/cancers
2) He himself gets infected by said loseritis/cancer.

The franchise has been blessed. Their main objective is to not throw that blessing away frivolously. I've said it before, but Luka will probaby be looking for a new home pretty soon. The team's job should be to make us as desirable a location as possible by keeping our options open and allowing the assets we have to develop unhindered into their full potential.

KAT reminds me too much of DeRozan and Aldridge. Not bad people, but not helpful when your ultimate goal is being the best team in the NBA.

Spot on. Too many braindead Spurs fans want us to chase after every slight upgrade, no matter how short-sighted it may be and future consequences be damned.

[scott]

I read an article today that one of the things Harden is pissed off at is that he wasn’t selected an All Star. Dumbass doesn’t know that the FANS do that. Then, when offered a replacement slot, he dithered so long responding that they selected someone else. They were afraid he wouldn’t show, because they literally had to send a plane to fly him to the 75th anniversary celebration, and team announcement. What a ing tool.

He definitely deserves to go down in history as the perennial loser he is.

[talkspurs]

At referring to an All-NBA caliber player as "not a good player".

I will say the same thing about him that I did about simmons. Just because you get the awards does not mean you earn them. He puts up stats and that helps to get on those teams but he is not a good player. Do you think he is better then collins if so how much?

[TD 21]

I will say the same thing about him that I did about simmons. Just because you get the awards does not mean you earn them. He puts up stats and that helps to get on those teams but he is not a good player. Do you think he is better then collins if so how much?

He's basically been an All-NBA caliber player from the jump. Simmons was an All-Star caliber player and I don't know which Collins you're referring to, but I'd classify John as a solid-top starter and Zach as a borderline-low end one.

[Chinook]

He's almost 28, and at this point, he should BE the vet, not need one.

But that's what happens when you treat player development like 2K and just assume they'll get better with time. In an ideal world, Towns would know how to win a le and be able to pass that on to guys like Edwards. But he doesn't know. Fundamentally, he might be able to learn, especially not with the coaching and bad FO work. Lebron was in his ninth year when he won his first le. Durant was in his tenth. Both had choker reps. Both needed to go to teams where they were with talented vets who had already won a le. KAT hasn't even had the moderate playoff success those guys had, but he shouldn't get bogged down in that alpha/1A/franchise player anymore. He's not a GOAT candidate. No one cares. His legacy is going to based on his ability to win from now on. If he's late on where his clock should be, so be it.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Is he more mentally fit then pop or Biden ?

pop, no
biden, probably

tbh

[exstatic]

He's basically been an All-NBA caliber player from the jump. Simmons was an All-Star caliber player and I don't know which Collins you're referring to, but I'd classify John as a solid-top starter and Zach as a borderline-low end one.

Simmons made an All NBA teamn2020, so, by your standards, he’s an All NBA player, and a team can be built around him as a #1.

[exstatic]

But that's what happens when you treat player development like 2K and just assume they'll get better with time. In an ideal world, Towns would know how to win a le and be able to pass that on to guys like Edwards. But he doesn't know. Fundamentally, he might be able to learn, especially not with the coaching and bad FO work. Lebron was in his ninth year when he won his first le. Durant was in his tenth. Both had choker reps. Both needed to go to teams where they were with talented vets who had already won a le. KAT hasn't even had the moderate playoff success those guys had, but he shouldn't get bogged down in that alpha/1A/franchise player anymore. He's not a GOAT candidate. No one cares. His legacy is going to based on his ability to win from now on. If he's late on where his clock should be, so be it.

LeBron had been to two Finals before he won, the first of which was after his 4th season, and he appeared in the playoffs every year after his second until he went to LA. I don’t think we would be as hard on KAT if he could at least consistently take a team to the playoffs, and occasionally win a series now and then. Like AD, he can’t even do that. KAT will have to go be someone’s at some point, like AD did, to ever win a ring.