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Teams need to apply pressure on Sochan early in the possession. I didn't see Dallas doing this.
His pg handles aren't tight enough and this will lead to burning seconds off the shot clock and will lead to many turnovers.
You're proving the point rather than contesting it. Yes, there are stories about stars playing point. Guys who are going to have the ball in their hands should know how to make plays, read defenses all that jazz. But some guys are just role-players, and those role-players are critical to winning games. The Spurs have a bunch of role-players who run around thinking their stars because they were always trained and marketed that way. How can you tell Keldon to not try to win the game now after spending three years telling him to do so? How can you get on Branham for ignoring Wemby when all he heard last year was to be assertive on offense? Why do you have a forward out there trying to make guard rotations?
No, I don't think Sochan was irredeemably bad at PG or anything like that. But it's weird that the Spurs want to give him the ball when a good version of this team's future probably doesn't involve him being a perimeter player in the first place. Off the bench, it's whatever. In a world where the Spurs had drafted Brandon Miller, it would make some sense with the starters. But you have to think the second star will probably be the primary ball handler, Wemby getting the ball after that and the third star (like Vassell) getting the ball after that. Sochan being the guy who initiates the offense doesn't look likely in the future. In the here and now, he doesn't enough of an ability to score off the dribble to even start to bend a defense. He had a lot of success scoring opportunistically with cuts, fast-breaks and put-backs. Add a good three-ball and some improved understanding on how to create passing windows along the arc, and he could've been set up for a very interesting year. Instead, he's going to be doing this. It's not likely he's going to be as good this year as he could've been, and it may be worth it in the future. But if he follows the example of most of the other "he's going to play PG" guys, it'll probably cause more confusion than it will unlock hidden talents.
Teams need to apply pressure on Sochan early in the possession. I didn't see Dallas doing this.
His pg handles aren't tight enough and this will lead to burning seconds off the shot clock and will lead to many turnovers.
Poop made Gary Neal the backup PG for what, like 2 seasons? And this was back when he was only half senile.
Doncic isn’t a quick point guard who can apply full court pressure. Not that I’m telling you anything. But yes, a quick defender can force Sochan to pass. The importance of that is unclear, tho, because Sochan is going to pass early anyway, since he has no ability to bend or break a defense with his dribble.
kinda. his first season Hill was still there. he was the main backup PG the next 2 years but usually with Manu babysitting
46 points in the 1st Quarter. The starting lineup has been annihilating teams coming out of the gate. This team just very obviously isn’t used to playing 48 minutes
Or that proves it only works in spurts and not for whole games tbh.
combined end of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarter we were outscored 24-0. It was more about closing out quarters.
One thing clear from last night is VW was pissed off. He walked straight off the court after the game without shanking any hands and his presser was definitely an outlier from his previous media events. If we start like 2-8 we're going to have a pissed off star.
I have no idea what is behind the whole Sochan at PG thing:
Does Pop really think that Sochan's future in the NBA is at the PG spot?
or
Is it just a phase to help Sochan's development?
Both scenarios don't really make sense to me.
It's remains fun watching all the angst over Pop trying things. It's one game, if he doesn't show any improvement sure but I recommend patience.
No one's offense is even steven for 48 minutes. As Sean always says, "It's a game of runs".
Exactly this. What exactly is the point of this?
It doesn't make sense at all. Literally all his strengths are amplified by playing off the ball and being more of a glue guy. On paper he works great next to Wemby. But that narrative collapses when you neutralize him by making him the point guard.
As a side note...feels good to talk basketball again and be excited about it. Cheers.
As a side note...feels good to talk basketball again and be excited about it. Cheers.
Now imagine Victor playing with the likes of Tony and Manu
The only position Sochan should be playing is water boy and tying sneaker laces for the guys IMO
Sochan is playing in position.
They put Sochan at the point because they want him out there and the other four spots are taken.
That’s it, folks. That’s all there is to it. There isn’t any more to know.
People go on and on about positionless basketball, and what a real point guard is, and blah blah blah, but all of that is only irrelevant hot air. None of that has anything to do with anything.
Collins is the center. Wemby is the PF. Keldon is the SF. Vassell is the SG. If you then insist on adding Sochan, where does he go? That is your answer.
No way Pop drops the Sochan PG experiment after 10 or 15 games. Like, "no way" as in that's just not gonna happen, whether you think it's good or bad that it isn't happening.
I'm willing to bet copious amounts of your favorite imaginary currency on it! JK, I'm no betting man, but I wish I was. This is easy money.
Hilariously we agree on this, for exactly the opposite reasons. You'll think it's old man foolishness or stubbornness I'm guessing, but it's just such an obvious Spurs move.
Play the guy out of his comfort zone, push him to grow in areas he hasn't tapped before, and see what player comes out the other end. It's worked a number of times in the past, and I don't doubt it'll yield good results here too, even if Sochan isn't necessarily playing the PG position when we raise our next banner.
It makes a lot of sense, come on. Sochan is a very versatile and (by all accounts) smart player, and the Spurs see a very fluid mold on him. He's never played main ball-handling duties in his career, so why wouldn't you throw some of that at him to see how he handles and grows from it? It doesn't make sense not to try it, given the freedoms of modern ball and the Spurs' low stakes for the season.
I disagree that literally all his strengths are better shown off ball. He's a creative passer which he'll exploit more now, he's a good transition player but not necessarily a great finisher, which combined with his height and a young team full of guys running down the court, really lends itself to a style of play that the Spurs seem to be aiming for (and I'm thinking of Wemby's leaking out repeatedly here).
Fact remains and has been there since Magic, a 6'8'' PG is better than a 6'0 one - so if (major IF, I know) Sochan can develop into a primary ball handler, he'd be a much, much better asset to the team than otherwise. And even if he doesn't, what harm is some PG practice gonna do to his game? I'd really like him to at least be comfortable as a secondary handler, so if-and-when we make a "big splash" for a star player, hopefully a star PG, he can slot in as a "Giannis-lite" nightmare. That's my dream anyways, not necessarily what the Spurs are aiming for (and they might have even less of an idea than we do right now).
spurs need a floor general who knows how to run plays and giving the ball to the correct player
we dont have one, we just waiting for the open man easy pass for easy missed call...
wemby needs help down low with the offensive rebound or defensive matchups...fkn havinga midget down low trying to rebound when wemby is on the perimeter shooting...
Look, overall I just disagree. If you asked what's the best version of the Spurs this season? Then it's not playing Sochan as the starting point. But same could be said about Wemby playing center, who made his 9 point run playing center last night. The long game is what I'm more interested in. And I think Sochan does better defending the outside than in the paint. He is really good getting around screens, which is what I'm most surprised about. For a thirty win team, I'm excited to watch.
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