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    I don't think there's a chance Risacher is available at #4, but Castle should be there since Risacher/Sarr will be the top2 and Rockets don't Castle who's too similar to Amen.

    The only question is will Spurs rate one of the available wings (Buzelis/Holland/Williams) higher than Castle.
    Castle surely won't get past Hornets at #6 if Spurs don't get him with #4.

    Then either one of those wings that's leftover or take a gamble with Dillingham. Outside chance for Knecht.
    I don't think there's a chance Pistons, Hornets or Blazers take Dillingham.
    They all have their franchise point guards and another one with no size or defense is the last thing they need.

    I don't want Topic, Buzelis or Dillingham at #4, I'm fine with everything else, tbh.

    Just thinking out loud, but I wonder if Castle is similar to Amen in a way Houston may actually value - two guys who can be flex PG/SFs. That opens up quite a few lineup possibilities, especially on the defensive front.

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    Of all the NBA cities to help a prospect with gaining weight, San Antonio definitely is a cut above.
    LOL no one wants Dilly to go Beno and get fat off breakfast tacos

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    LOL no one wants Dilly to go Beno and get fat off breakfast tacos
    Dilly, coming to camp in year 2 at 255 lbs and an Edgar haircut: "y'all said I needed to gain weight!"

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    Castle/Dillingham would be a good outcome. Means they aren’t trying to jam the square peg into the round hole by sticking Castle at point full time

    ive already let go of the risacher pipe dream
    Why would Risacher be a pipe dream? You don't see him being available at 4?

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    Why would Risacher be a pipe dream? You don't see him being available at 4?
    He's going #1 or #2. I seriously doubt he gets to Houston.

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    Why would Risacher be a pipe dream? You don't see him being available at 4?
    I don’t think he’s making it to 4. Could go anywhere in the top 3.

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    Good read. Switch Holland with Devin Carter and that's my top 10 tbh (in a different order).

    Spurs are in a really good place to add some guys that'll impact winning more games next season. Just don't screw it up tbh.

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    Anything noteworthy in Mike Monroe’s piece from the Athletic?

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/549...urs-offseason/

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    Why would Risacher be a pipe dream? You don't see him being available at 4?
    Feels like Risacher is long gone at #4 but I do believe in miracles

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    Anything noteworthy in Mike Monroe’s piece from the Athletic?

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/549...urs-offseason/
    Pretty much a rehash of things we've heard... don't expect a big trade but we have assets if we choose too, etc, etc

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    Jack McClinton and Marcus Denmon walked so Dillingham could run

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    Anything noteworthy in Mike Monroe’s piece from the Athletic?

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/549...urs-offseason/
    Took that quickly from source code, so some names may be missing (you can get them through context) and the parsing may be sloppy, but here it is;
    "The solid finish to the 2023-24 season — seven wins in their final 11 games — produced a jolt of joy and a steep leap in confidence about the future for a franchise that knows it already has a player — unanimous Rookie of the Year — around whom a championship contender eventually can be built. At 75 and the league’s oldest head coach, Gregg Popovich declared after the season finale that his enthusiasm only needed only a week-and-a-half respite to be ready for 2024-25. Nobody wondered why. on this season’s rosters showed that nearly all of them would be very happy were they to be Wembanyama’s teammates next season.

    The 20-year-old from Paris was an overwhelming answer to the survey’s question: Starting from scratch, which player would be the first player selected? Only Popovich gets to be Wemby’s coach next season. Yet, as exuberant as Popovich and the team’s fan base were in of an otherwise forgettable season, calm heads must prevail as the team’s basketball brain trust contemplates optimizing Wembanyama’s presence. That late surge, forged in part by deep rotation players like and , likely was far more fool’s gold than mother lode.

    Here’s the hard truth for everyone who wore silver and black in the 2023-24 season but was not a 7-foot-4 rookie from Paris: Wembanyama is the one and only untradeable player. That’s not to say a major housecleaning is coming, but nobody should be surprised if there are more new players on the San Antonio roster on opening night in October than those who were on the roster, both active and inactive, for the season finale on April 14. Only a few current Spurs seem highly likely to be on the opening night roster when the 2024-25 season begins.

    Devin Vassell missed the final eight games of the season with a stress reaction of the fifth metatarsal in his right foot, but in the 68 games he played before the injury, he was the team’s No. 2 scorer at 19.5 points per game, which is a career-high. Plus, in the final half of the season, he and Wembanyama developed an effective two-man game that became a staple in crunchtime. “Devin has turned into a confident scorer,” Popovich said. “He can shoot it. He can drive it. He’s upped his defensive understanding that no defense, no wins. So, he’s made a big step in that regard.

    Despite the failure of Popovich’s experiment using him as a point guard, Jeremy Sochan was the team’s best on-ball perimeter defender, usually assigned to guard the opposition’s best scorer. “Jeremy is a prime defender,” Popovich said. “He can guard one through four, and he enjoys it, which is great.” Sochan is far from a reliable shooter. He made only 43.8 percent of his shots and it doesn’t take a shot doctor to understand why more of them don’t drop. The ball comes off his hand with a counter-productive side spin. It’s something he promises to work on during the off-season. He improved his free-throw shooting from his rookie season’s 69.8 percent to . Who’s to say he can’t do something similar with his jumper?

    When Sochan was moved back to his natural spot at power forward, Tre Jones resumed his role as starting point guard. He ended up being the team leader in assists (6.1 per game) and one of its leaders, both on the court and in the locker room. With rare exceptions, he was on the court in crunchtime in every winnable game. “Tre has been Tre,” Popovich said. “He gets taken for granted because he does the same things every night and gives 100 percent of what he has and everybody respects it, knows it and we need it. His consistency is off the charts.”

    Keldon Johnson, the longest-tenured Spurs, also finished the season on the sidelines with a left ankle impingement. Before missing the final four games, he had endeared himself to Popovich by accepting a sixth-man role after being a starter through the first 27 games of the season. He averaged 15.7 points per game, behind only Wembanyama and Vassell, and added some finesse to an offensive game Popovich has described as “Give me ball; I go to rim.”

    “He’s a little more nuanced than that now, which helps him,” Popovich said. And the rest of the players now on the roster? Each will likely need to wait and see how things go for the Spurs in the NBA Draft, the trade market and free agency, and it remains to be seen how Popovich, still president of the Spurs, general manager Brian Wright and his subalterns approach those avenues for roster change. Wright’s observations of the many lineup combinations Popovich employed gave him one conclusion: The basketball staff still has a lot to learn about what already has worked best for and with Wembanyama. They are now trying to suss out what might work in the future.

    “We got to see a lot of different lineups and styles and we’ve done different things throughout the season,” said Wright, the Spurs GM since 2019, after San Antonio closed out its season with their 22nd victory. “We’ve seen him (Wembanyama) in different places. He’s so unique and he does so many different things that I think he’s still learning and we’re still learning. “That process will continue, so I don’t know that there’s one blueprint. He’s so dynamic and I think you can build the thing in a lot of different ways. So, we’ve got to keep chipping away at that."

    “We’ve learned a lot of different things across the season and what may work right now. We’ve got to project a little bit about what will work in seasons three, four, five and beyond. So, we’ll keep adding to that, but there’s no one uniform, ‘This is the way you can build with him.’ ” Wright also said adaptability is key. “Everybody has a vision and a plan you want to execute,” Wright said. “But, if it’s static on paper and it’s not adaptable based on what you’ve seen, it’s probably not much of a plan.”

    Wright has ac ulated as many as 10 first-round picks through the next five drafts, including No. 4 and No. 8 (from Toronto) this year. Advertisement These can be golden assets in trade talks. Does that make an off-season trade for an All-Star caliber player a likelihood this summer? Not necessarily. “Every year we try to be aggressive, but you have to be strategically aggressive, right?” Wright said. “Because of all the things you’ve tried to establish to give yourself ways to build, you want to make sure that you have different ways you go forward. “I think we’ll do that. We’ll be aggressive, but we’ll maintain being strategic.” When it comes to luring high-profile free agents, Wembanyama is a strategic plus that no other team can offer.

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    Pretty much a rehash of things we've heard... don't expect a big trade but we have assets if we choose too, etc, etc
    Thanks —I kinda wonder if we start getting move draft gossip if both the Celtics and Mavs sweep. There would be so much dead time (I believe like a week) before the finals start.

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    I think you take Castle and Holland and hope that we can teach them how to shoot. That would pretty much force the Spurs to play uptempo and Castle can throw lobs so that’s a plus. I heard all year long how difficult it was to throw a lob pass from “expert analysis” here on Spurstalk and then I watch Dallas throw 58 successful lobs in 2 and a half rounds…

    Anyhow Hollands speed is killer. His first step can’t really be taught. He needs to be taught pretty much everything else offensively lol but a killer first step and loves playing defense? I can start with that

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    Thanks —I kinda wonder if we start getting move draft gossip if both the Celtics and Mavs sweep. There would be so much dead time (I believe like a week) before the finals start.
    Good call... The Press is going to need talking points.... trades?...who wants to play with Wemby?... will LeBron leave LA?.... they'll throw all of that at us..

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    I think you take Castle and Holland and hope that we can teach them how to shoot. That would pretty much force the Spurs to play uptempo and Castle can throw lobs so that’s a plus. I heard all year long how difficult it was to throw a lob pass from “expert analysis” here on Spurstalk and then I watch Dallas throw 58 successful lobs in 2 and a half rounds…

    Anyhow Hollands speed is killer. His first step can’t really be taught. He needs to be taught pretty much everything else offensively lol but a killer first step and loves playing defense? I can start with that
    Castle, Holland, Sochan, Tre Jones, Cissoko, Blake Wesley, Barlow... Wemby either asks out or commits seppuku by the trade deadline.

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    Anything noteworthy in Mike Monroe’s piece from the Athletic?

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/549...urs-offseason/

    https://archive.ph/2cA2L

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    Thanks —I kinda wonder if we start getting move draft gossip if both the Celtics and Mavs sweep. There would be so much dead time (I believe like a week) before the finals start.
    Prolly. The league is so bad at the top that a lot of teams can push in and contend. We may see big names on the move once again as wannabes shuffle players around. Paul George, one of the Atlanta guards, Ingram, maybe even Durant. LeBron's situation will provide ESPN with endless content.

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    I think you take Castle and Holland and hope that we can teach them how to shoot. That would pretty much force the Spurs to play uptempo and Castle can throw lobs so that’s a plus. I heard all year long how difficult it was to throw a lob pass from “expert analysis” here on Spurstalk and then I watch Dallas throw 58 successful lobs in 2 and a half rounds…

    Anyhow Hollands speed is killer. His first step can’t really be taught. He needs to be taught pretty much everything else offensively lol but a killer first step and loves playing defense? I can start with that
    I am starting to buy that as one thing that I am coming to realize from watching Mav's games if you can run and get easy shots things work out in your favor. I think Wemby would like Castle in that he seems like a very team kind of player who just wants to win and will check his ego for that - Oh, and he can throw lobs..lol. As far as Holland I like his potential and understand he might be a project on the offensive shooting side but he will be a lock down defender who gets you easy buckets in transition.

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    Castle, Holland, Sochan, Tre Jones, Cissoko, Blake Wesley, Barlow... Wemby either asks out or commits seppuku by the trade deadline.
    I assume the follow up is also to try and offer a bag to Malik monk in free agency or trade for Trae young? Otherwise yes, it might be one of the few ways we can manage to get a top 3 pick in 2025, so regardless it may not be all bad

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    i'd like for the Spurs to draft one of Castle or Holland, but both is a stretch given the lack of shooting. Kind of similarly, I'd love for them to draft one of Dillingham or Sheppard, but not both because of their size.

    I think if you take Castle or Holland you need to bring in a shooter with the other pick.

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    I could be wrong but I’m kinda thinking the spurs might grab guards with both picks tbh. You can always sign another wing in free agency like Gary Trent, Buddy Hield, Issac Okoro, etc.

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    Do we pass on Castle if he is bent on playing point? Even if he can play it, the fit is awful. We are looking at a Jrue AD situation at best where nothing on offense is really good enough and you ran into teambuilding deadlock.

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    How much of a factor should be fit with Wemby in PNR? Silly has his limitations defensively, obviously, but he would be a killer in PNR. Defenders wouldn’t be able to go under screens, and good luck switching a big on him. Reed might not have blow by ability, but the shooting and feel would really pair well with Wemby. Castle is smooth, but I don’t think he shoots well enough to pressure teams in PNR. They’d go under screens daring him to shoot.
    that‘s why you draft Dillingham. Nobody would be able to guard the switch and you hope you have a 1-2 punch there that’s unstoppable.

    Castle would work well as the screener for Wemby.

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    Again great write up tmvp. Here’s hoping your right.

    1. Risacher
    2. Castle
    3. Sarr
    4. Buzelis
    5. dillingham
    6. Carter
    7. Sheppard
    8. holland (who droppedin my eyes given his shooting touch)
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