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    Again, there was a reason for the picture taking. Something you have a hard time grasping.
    There's no reason to be taking pics of your TV unless you have absolutely, positively, nothing else to do.


    Again, I'm sorry you remind me of Pat. God was the mean one in this.
    You're right. God was the one who made you see men as women and contemplate killing yourself.

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    How old are you, Writer? Still making fun of the way people look? It's pretty ridiculous, especially considering there's really nothing funny about the picture - and it's blatantly obvious that you're completely reaching for anything to go at MB with.

    And you're swinging and missing.

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    Watcing KSAT, Holly Hills made a statement in which they are trying to lure the NFL into San Antonio. At least that is what I got out of it.

    Also, potential baseball sites will be by the SBC Center, the Longhorn Quarry or by Retama Park.

    I'm sure there will be more news to follow.

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    Again, get a hotel-motel tax voted for, there's your funding.
    One cannot just squat down one day and a successful hotel-motel tax referendum. Is it possible? Sure. Is it easy? No. Has the groundwork been laid to get one approved? Enlighten me.

    Catching up to do?

    Get the Marlins to commit to SA. Get a hotel-motel tax voted for. Build the stadium.

    We dun caught up.
    Mas facil dicho que hecho. You're talking about years of work. The other cities are not going to sit there and do nothing while waiting for S.A. to pass a hotel-motel tax or for Holly Hills to issue bids.

    So they need to get a move on, otherwise this is all lip service.

    I don't think we need to debate anymore San Antonio's hypothetical ability to support another major pro sports franchise. Yes, they can do it. But, having established that they can do it, they should, um, do it.

    Preliminary conversations are nice, but they need to pick up the pace and move past the token real estate acquisitions and press conferences.

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    How old are you, Writer? Still making fun of the way people look? It's pretty ridiculous, especially considering there's really nothing funny about the picture - and it's blatantly obvious that you're completely reaching for anything to go at MB with.

    And you're swinging and missing.
    From what we can gather, he is a 21-year-old high-functioning autistic who is living independently. He is highly conversant in a few specific topics of interest, specifically urban development and photography, but struggles to understand topics outside his narrow interest, and has problems with social interaction, especially with nuances like humor.

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    One cannot just squat down one day and a successful hotel-motel tax referendum. Is it possible? Sure. Is it easy? No. Has the groundwork been laid to get one approved? Enlighten me.
    Seemed pretty easy when the County proposed a hotel-motel taxed arena for the Spurs.

    Out of thin air they appear to help the team.

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    Marlins begin relocation tour in San Antonio

    SAN ANTONIO, Texas (Reuters) - Faced with declining attendance and struggles to get a new stadium in Miami, Marlins President David P. Samson met San Antonio officials on Tuesday to discuss relocating the two-time World Series champions.

    Major League Baseball permitted Samson to consider alternate sites last month and the ninth-largest U.S. city (Actually 8th) was his first stop.

    "The future of baseball in South Florida is no longer assured," Samson told reporters after a day of meetings with San Antonio Mayor Phil Hardberger and Bexar County Judge Nelson W. Wolff, who is a former semi-pro baseball player and namesake of the city's minor league stadium.

    Samson insisted the trip was not calculated to force a new stadium deal back home.

    "We are certainly not going to lead anybody on," Samson said. "Our timeline involves us going through this first stage for three to five months, but certainly there is an immediacy to this."

    Wolff estimated an open-air ballpark could be built for $250 million and without new taxes.

    Samson said the Marlins' current lease in Miami expires in 2010, but the team could move in 2008.

    He said cities that jockeyed for the Montreal Expos, before they moved to Washington, D.C., would be possibilities for the Marlins, including Portland, Oregon; Las Vegas, Nevada; and Norfolk, Virginia.

    Samson said his is not interested in moving to a Mexican city, such as Monterrey.

    San Antonio's only big-league franchise is the Spurs of the NBA, although the city is serving as a temporary home for the New Orleans Saints after Hurricane Katrina.

    Officials also are vying to keep the Saints, although Wolff said the city probably can support just one additional pro sports franchise.

    Samson declined to speculate how the owners of Texas' two major-league franchises -- the Texas Rangers and Houston Astros -- would react to a third Lone Star team.

    However, he said all owners would benefit if the Marlins found a home that offered stronger financial footing.

    "Right now the Marlins franchise receives way too much revenue sharing, and that comes from other owners like the owners of the Rangers and the Astros who are putting money into the pot, so they are trying to find a way to get the Marlins in a different financial position," he said.

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    Extra Stout you have some solid posts! The process of getting a funding mechanism worked out and approved (hotel-motel tax), selecting a site and design team (politics involved) and then getting the construction process process going is three years MINIMUM. It's tedious and time consuming. Portland does seem to be ahead way ahead. Fortunately, the Dolphins Stadium lease doesn't end until 2010 so there is some time to play with.

    The SA/south central market is a viable one but probably right on the edge. Companies like Toyota and ancillary businesses are not yet established and haven't produced a single truck. They need a few years to produce and make $$$.

    Funny but the last MLB game I went to was the Marlins vs. Braves when I was in Atlanta this past September. Mojo......

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    The process of getting a funding mechanism worked out and approved (hotel-motel tax), selecting a site and design team (politics involved) and then getting the construction process process going is three years MINIMUM.
    WTF are you smoking?

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    Explain........

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    Actually, I may have misread you. Do you mean it'll be a 3 year process to get everything together and for construction of a stadium to start and finish or... that the process leading up to the start of construction would take 3 years?

    You may not know this, but the Marlin's contract runs until 2010 with their current stadium, but they can opt out in 2008 (which would be when they relocate if they do so).

    So, San Antonio has three years to make this happen.

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    Yes I meant three years total until completion of the stadium. I just noticed my typo. If I remember right the SBC hotel-motel tax referendum was passed in late '99 and it was completed in '02. A baseball stadium is larger. If the Marlins were to opt out in '08 for the '09 season then you would have three years. That's cutting it close. Otherwise it's only two full years ('06 & '07). No way it could be complete for the '08 season. From what I heard on the news report the Marlins will take about five months to study their options.

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    Yes I meant three years total until completion of the stadium. I just noticed my typo. If I remember right the SBC hotel-motel tax referendum was passed in late '99 and it was completed in '02. A baseball stadium is larger. If the Marlins were to opt out in '08 for the '09 season then you would have three years. That's cutting it close. Otherwise it's only two full years ('06 & '07). No way it could be complete for the '08 season. From what I heard on the news report the Marlins will take about five months to study their options.
    It was reported an official announcement of where they'll go to or stay will happen within 6 months.

    The thing you may not know, is that Bexar county already has the land and architect in place.

    All that's missing is funding which could and most likely will be a new hotel-motel tax.

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    spring sports complex ??

    IF YOU BUILD IT ....THEY WILL COME I TELL YA

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    They may want to reconsider the open-air stadium. In San Antonio. In the summer.

    "The white people are melting."

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    I dunno, the stadium in Arlington seems OK in the summer time. Have lots of night games ...

    Here's an article from today's E-N:

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/s....121c14ad.html

    Marlins looking at S.A.

    Web Posted: 12/07/2005 12:00 AM CST

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    Florida Marlins president David Samson came away from Tuesday's tour of San Antonio impressed with both the city and its leadership.

    But he wasn't ready to commit to move the Major League Baseball team, which has received permission from commissioner Bud Selig to look for a new home, perhaps as soon as the 2008 season.

    "Over the next three to five months, we expect to visit several more cities," Samson said at a news conference after the tour, which was conducted by Bexar County Judge Nelson Wolff, Mayor Phil Hardberger and District Attorney Susan Reed.

    "We're going to do our homework, review things like the finances and the fan base, and see what we can do."

    Samson did not name the six other cities that have expressed interest, although he said the list was similar to the one Major League Baseball compiled when it announced the move of the Montreal Expos. That list included Portland, Ore.; Las Vegas, and Norfolk, Va.

    The Expos eventually moved to Washington, D.C.

    "One thing we're not going to do is play one city against another," Samson said. "We're not going to take what San Antonio said today and run to another city and say 'match this.'

    "It's not like we're a free-agent pitcher. We're not going to play it that way. We're looking for the right fit for our team."

    Samson, who was impressed with the city's feel, said the decision about moving the team — which has struggled to attract fans in South Florida — would depend more on a gut feeling among its directors than a set number of commitments for season tickets or corporate sponsorships.

    "We expect to move to a good baseball town," he said. "You want a big city that can feel like a town — that makes a good baseball town."

    Wolff said the tour included several potential sites for a stadium, which he said would be financed with a public-private partnership that would not include new taxes. The city's Double A Missions play at Wolff Stadium.

    "Obviously, we don't know yet where a deal might get done," Wolff said.

    A spokesman for a development group looking to build a complex of sports facilities and related amenities on the East Side said it would be willing to put together private investments for much of the cost of a venue.

    "If HollyHills can do anything to make the Florida Marlins a reality in San Antonio, then HollyHills is behind this 100 percent," said T.J. Connolly, a spokesman for Los Angeles-based HollyHills Development Inc., which recently unveiled ambitious plans for MLB, NFL and NASCAR facilities near the SBC Center and the city-owned Willow Springs Golf Course.

    "We have the plan, the land and the credibility."

    Credibility was an issue for Samson, who for his four years as team president has been working with Miami-area politicians on a plan for a baseball-only stadium. The team has played its home games in all 13 of its seasons at Dolphins Stadium, home of the city's NFL team. But the Marlins can get out of their lease there after the 2007 season.

    "It was great to deal with San Antonio's political leaders and see how they work together," said Samson, who also was introduced to members of the Bexar County Commissioners Court and some City Council members Tuesday. "It feels good to be wanted."

    City leaders emphasized that Tuesday's visit was preliminary, a step in the process that Wolff has said in the past might take up to 10 years.

    "We don't know where this might lead, but you don't know if a road leads anywhere unless you get on it," Hardberger said.

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    any stadium built for MLB had better be a retractable roofed stadium. thats all i'm gonna say.

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    "If HollyHills can do anything to make the Florida Marlins a reality in San Antonio, then HollyHills is behind this 100 percent," said T.J. Connolly, a spokesman for Los Angeles-based HollyHills Development Inc., which recently unveiled ambitious plans for MLB, NFL and NASCAR facilities near the SBC Center and the city-owned Willow Springs Golf Course.

    "We have the plan, the land and the credibility."
    Nice to hear HollyHills is 100% behind getting the Marlins.

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    The thing you may not know, is that Bexar county already has the land and architect in place.
    Very unlikely that they have an architect at this point. There is no stadium project which requires one. And being a public building the county would issue Request For Proposals for design teams if the project becomes a reality. Legally the county can't negotiate with an architect. There is always a selection process. Maybe you're thinking of the architects (Kell Munoz & Ellerbe Beckett) who are doing the feasibility study at SBC. And that study is separate from the HollyHills vision. Both HollyHills and the county have land available.

    It's great that HollyHills could offer something. That means there are options. But right now they are just that - an option.

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    TheWriter, just like the rest of SA, is getting played.

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    I've always thought that SA would be a great baseball city even though football and basketball are at the front. Back when they were thinking of building the Alamo Dome, I thought that they should've included basball in the mix. I'm not big on baseball ( too slow of a game, though I don't mind going in person to see a game ), but a MLB team here would be great. Hope it works out for SA!

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    Nice to hear HollyHills is 100% behind getting the Marlins.
    They're not. They're getting behind the idea of taking San Antonio for a lot of money.

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    TheWriter, just like the rest of SA, is getting played.
    Yeah, and the reason I and the city is getting played is...

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    Very unlikely that they have an architect at this point. There is no stadium project which requires one.

    Yeah, they do.

    After hearing two competing presentations, Bexar County commissioners decided Wednesday to go with the EDAW/Kell Muñoz Architects group to devise a master plan for the SBC Center grounds.
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/business....181b7d90.html

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    They're not. They're getting behind the idea of taking San Antonio for a lot of money.
    Doesn't your ass get burnt from having to talk so much?

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