Wemby's age doesn't matter. He'd have a legit chance to win MVP if he was on a contending roster.
Spurs need to enable him to compete. That's how you fill those seats.
A lot of us felt Wemby was good enough to deserve better talent around him LAST SEASON, and he’s only even better and ahead of expectations now. He’s on the equivalent of an MLE contract. We have 2.5 years left of the gift of his rookie deal. I hope we take advantage of that.
Pleased with the outcome to date. The schedule does get harder so still thinking still mid to high 30 win team.
My 3 takes aways:
1. Victor is even more amazing than we thought. We’re so damn lucky.
2. Several decent potential “number 3” options for the future between Castle, Sochan, and Dev. Still early on Castle (who I love), but the other 2 aren’t THE “running mate.”
3. The team is clearly missing a “number 2.” Aside from tidying up the roster here and there, serious trade and draft planning need to be all about finding that player.
Get rid of everyone except Wemby and Castle.
Keep CP3 as long as you can. I like Barnes too. Definitely get rid of gay fans favorite, Sochan.
I say that like the F/O knows how to pick up good talent.
Impressive start as they might improve and Wemby unreal. The acting coach is doing well. If could somehow make a trade get one more stronger player around Wemby could be dangerous team if makes playoff.
After the dust settles on a close loss where the mistakes are magnified, I’m pretty pleased. Last year was a chore to watch. I watched for Wemby highlights and not much more. This year, I’m actually counting the minutes til the next game. My biggest frustration is that I see the progress and we get glimpses of it, enough to see them slug it out against the best of em, but not enough to reliably win games against the top half of the league.
Wemby is seeing what he’s capable of at the moment. Sometimes experimenting to the point of madness, but I’m convinced he knows how to play. He’s just tinkering, not worried about the results as much as observing the process of it all. Sochan is forming a nice little oop tandem with Wemby and that’s darn near unstoppable. I’m excited for Castle to develop his shot a little more and grow in maturity. He’s already ahead of most rookies I’ve ever seen.
This team definitely needs more offense. We’ve got a lot of almost guys, but we need more sure thing guys. Watching the other games in the lineup, I still see a stark eye test difference between our guys and even the Sixers bench or the Mavs outside of Kyrie and Luka. Even their young guys just handle things differently. I’d love to see our FO slow up on the CIA stuff for a bit and just get the best talent that’s willing to submit to Wemby’s spotlight.
All in all though, I’m excited for the future. I really do believe in two years, a ring won’t be crazy talk.
Wemby - already made leaps and bounds of improvement from last year. Post-up game, better. 3pt shooting, better. Passing, better though hindered by CP's usage which is fine. Stamina, better. Defense, better.
Mitch - better than Pop. Although I think he overreacts sometimes. Like benching Bassey due to offensive deficiencies when it's clear we need rebounding. Benching Castle over Dev and Tre, although a big part is that it's hard to play Castle and Sochan together.
Castle - is doing all you can ask for from a rookie at this point. He needs to improve his finishing though and his FT shooting. I can live with the bad shooting from the 3 and mid-range as that was always his pain point, but if your game revolves around getting to the hoop you better be converting your lay-ups and freethrows.
Sochan - clearly part of the future. They have to make this work (talking about Castle and Sochan). You can't have this good of a 3rd year leap and not be a part of the future core.
Dev - he started his season well then has regressed afterwards. Par for the course for Devin unfortunately. I am done hoping he can be our #2 or even #3. Hopefully he can be used to get Fox.
Champ - I hated on him at the start of the season and now I am happily eating crow.
Keldon, Collins - garbage, waste of money, and space
Cissoko/Wesley/Branham - should be off my team immediately
CP3 and Barnes - They will have their good and bad moments given their age. They are playing and giving what is asked and expected of them. But obviously they are just stopgaps at this point.
Bassey/Mamu - Players that should have more playing time but are not given so.
Tre - is a solid NBA player. But he unfortunately doesn't have a place in this team.
I predicted a play-in showing before this season started and we are still on pace to do it.
Last edited by 100%duncan; 12-25-2024 at 09:11 PM.
Needs
More talent
More spunk
More defense
More shooting
More everything
Wemby-Sochan-Castle core is still 21 and under. We got good wings with size who can stretch defenses in Barnes-Champ-Devin to complement those 3 as well as the best game managers in CP3 and Tre to settle down without eating reps. It is perfectly built team for development. But it is still meant as a development team rather than a win now one.
Overall this team is definitely better than last year.
But being the #11 or #12 seed is painful.
I say we should give more mins to the confirmed core of the future (Wemby, Castle, Sochan)
Spurs need more poise.
We saw tonight that Victor can rack up rebounds and points if his 3 is falling and he's excited to play. Contrast that against some of the lower rebound games.
Spurs need to decide who they are rolling with. After that it can be about winning. Right now it's about finding optimal starting group and bench, and the Spurs don't seem to have that figured out yet.
Harrison Barnes is worthless for intents and purposes. He has moments and some decent games, but he's filling a slot that someone with a future on the team could fill.
Maybe it's not smart to slow roll Victor, maybe he should be playing in a premier setting on a team that can attract names. It feels like Victor is doing charity work right now.
The last part is hilarious cause Keldon is still your avatar. LMAO
I agree on all your points and especially on the part about Keldon. I think he'd be much better off on another team where his lack of a 'true' position isn't so obvious. Plus, I hope whenever we move on from him that regains his outside shooting touch. It's been depressing to see his two biggest attributes (3-point shooting & hustle/rebounding) seemingly go away.
I'm not going to put the loss on him, but better shot selection in 'clutch situtations' doesn't hurt.
All the three-pointers look great when they go in and can be 'backbreakers' but can also help to seal a loss (like today).
He was amazing today, but he's also by far the best player (which means he carries the biggest burden) and shouldn't be above criticism.
Why is everyone feeling so ing good just cause we are at around 500 when our compe ion at like 22-5? Big failure! Need to bring in a real #2 for Wemby right away.
His shot selection is ASS period. Team is going nowhere until he realizes that taking. A 30 ft 3 pt shot at the beginning of the shot clock is not the way to win a championship period.
Already feels eerily similar to the 2004-2010 Cavs era..
Last edited by spursistan; 12-26-2024 at 03:24 AM.
Cp3 is our main hope tbh, Wemby is too young and still learning to be a leader.
Not only on his impact on the players but the FO/coaches as well who's gotten way too comfortable losing.
This.
The Spurs fanbase has mastered the art of coping smh
Wemby is great for his age. He has stretches (especially his first stint in the first quarter) where he can look embarassingly bad on offense because he is bricking threes, falls over his feet and turns the ball over in a post up. He draws so much attention that he himself is our best lob passer. Defensively he is the best in the league.
Sochan is the second best player. Last night he probably had some eggnogs prior to the game, but despite fumbling and stumbling he had a very good game. His energy on the boards is invaluable and lets hope he takes more chances to shoot threes like he did versus the Knicks.
Vassell is a disappointment. Just because of his injury history I have no faith he will ever get back into a groove. Last year he and Wemby had some kind of two-man-game ... its nonexistant this season.
Castle looks solid, but you can see that he is on scouting reports now so his drives to the basket already get more difficult. But its too early to evaluate his value to the team.
KJ sucks. He once was the best three point shooter on the team. What a regression.
Barnes needs to go the bench. Way too inconsistent.
Champagnie plays well enough. Keep him for what he costs.
CP3 brought stability to the team, but even he is not able to give Victor lots of easy baskets. I do not know if Victor is just not a good roler *shrug* or if CP3 does not draw enough respect in the pick and roll game. Wish prime Manu could play the pick and roll with Wemby.
Blake Wesley is the one player I would give some playing time again. Brings energy and defends.
Do not care about the rest tbh. Yes, Mamu is a loser as well.
Good start to the season!
Vassells only played 15 games Amid injuries .... way more worried about his injuries than his game
It’s been a fun season so far, this Spurs team can beat any team on any night, nice to be able to watch compe ive games and possibly make the playoffs. It’s weird how so many posters are upset that the Spurs aren’t dominating the league. I watched Tim Duncan not win a championship almost 75% of the seasons he played and it was awesome. Enjoy this ride with Wemby a little more.
My biggest surprise of the season is how much I love CP3. I had never watched him consistently and he isn’t a highlight real type player, getting to watch him every game in a season and seeing his greatness has been a lot fun. It’s bittersweet because CP3 is so close to the end of his playing career.
Last edited by SPURt; 12-26-2024 at 09:21 AM.
If the Spurs need consistent 3P shooting they should give Riley Minix a look-in, at least from the bench. He is heating up the G-League and the leads it in Win Shares and a scorching 43% 3P shooting. He should be way better than Keldon and Branham, I am sure.
Minix traveled with the team to NY (you could see him sitting behind the bench).
Aah. I didn't notice. Thats good to know. Here's hoping he gets a quick look-in. Keldon's minutes at least need to be cut.
For someone who thought Keldon's ceiling was Charles Barkley, this must be really frustrating
That apart, it's sad to see how Keldon's game seems to have never developed beyond bully-moves into the crowded paint and some energy plays. Trouble is he can't be just replaced by a 3 and D guy. We need someone who has a bit more of a shifty game and the ability to drive and kick besides shooting 3s and defend adequately. Spurs will be lucky if they can get Cameron Johnson via trade, I think.
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