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    typical ignorant response
    Oh, don't worry, he's trying to come up with a bs response, just because we criticised him for it. Pure baloney is coming.

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    The comics show how conservatives lie and how they try to cover up for themselves, spin and change the subject. Dumb things, like when someone says we need to get our troops out of Iraq, all of a sudden "we're" against the troops and "how dare u insult the troops in this time of war" . Because yall know that bs actually works on some ppl.
    That's just to show how intelectually bankrupt leftist on this board have gotten. We get fun of because we conservatives are accused of using Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh talking points to articulate conservative positions. Yet through out this forum your side has been saying how what kerry has said wasn't deragatory towards troops, yet what he said is so derogatory that he puts them on the same level as terrorist. You then were told that terrororizing is not the same as commiting an act of terrorism because the first term is too broad and doesn't indicate severity like the word "terrorsim". The left on this board then countered with saying that it's ludicrous to suggest that "terrorizing" and "acts of terrorism" aren't one and the same. All of you then get called on it for siding with terrorist, and siding with Kerry's remark, and you get so offensive. You want to say that both the army and the terrorist both commit acts of terror. Yet no matter how adamant you are in your deciet, you could'nt honestly call our troops terrorist. They either are terrorist or they're not. You can't have a shade of gray. But you chose not to clarify your positions. You chose to sling mud at your opponents and hope it sticks, no matter how low you'll get to accomplish victory.

    SO now you're stuck defending Kerry's characterization of the troops, and denying the troops are terrorist. Who knows? maybe you all believe both. But you cannot logically defend your beliefs, so then You have Random Guy using A Tom Tomorrow Cartoon using a strawman description of conservatives to attack conservatives, after ing about conservatives using strawman.

    Face it. Your Party is full of sellouts like bill clinton, they sold you bas s for defense votes in 04 and the midterms by supporting the resolution for iraq. They didn't even believe in this war, but they sold out their principles and their followers for fear of losing power. You want to say, that supporting a bogus war is evil? How bout selling out your cons uents defending a bogus war, even when you knew it was evil, because you had no backbone. You and your buddies cannot take a stand and tell the public what you really believe. YOu are afraid of the comments of the conservative character of Tom TOmorrow no matter how foolish you might think they are. You're scared of them because you know they have some truth behind it.

    Deep down inside you tell yourself that the military is worse than alqueda, but all you do is make cheap allusions to it, and falsely proclaim you support our troops. You can't ever say what you really think because deep down inside you know you're thoughts are way too extreme.

    You look right now at your Democrat party and you see sellouts and people who are afraid to speak out. But what you're looking at is your own reflection. You too are sellouts and weakminded.

    I dare you. Say it. Take a stand. Say what you really think. Are our troops terrorist, or not?
    That's really evil, actually. To defend a bogus war, just make the ppl trying to bring our troops back home look like they are against our troops who are risking their lives for our great country. What a tactic. Talk about spin, talk about actually defending a view, side, argument or whatever u wanna call it with facts. You don't want to talk facts. If we talked about facts, u would spit only the truth and admit that this is a bogus war and we do have a dumb president.
    What's evil, is the party who you trusted in not voting against an "imperialistic war resolution", not voting with it's conscience. And what's more evil, is the fact that you will put these sellouts back in power. If you're a person of conviction, you should be against hillary since she's the main reason why your anti war stance has not taken flight. But you know what? Eventually you'll have to sellout and vote for her. YOu're sad, and you know it. I feel sorry for you.

    Instead you resort to try and win an arguement by making fun of comics being posted. Just more conservative baloney to take away from what's really going on. Instead of really talking about the bogus war, u wanna talk about something Kerry said, which wasn't bad btw, and u wanna do this because u have nothing else. And the normal response to this would be to talk about my statement on what Kerry said was bad.
    IF what's going on is a third rate comic strip, then we conservatives have every reason to be optimistic. If what's really going on is a strawman description of conservatives, who gives a rat's ass.

    This is ridiculous. when Clinton did what he did with Monica, it was "hanging time" for Bill, constantly everyday, just because he got laid. Never let the issue rest. yall wanted his head. . All of a sudden now, when the tables have turned, and really, boy did they turn for something that's actually valid, all i hear is, "Now is not the time to play the blame game".

    There's some truth for u. there is a fact for you.

    Have some decency for the ppl who have died, and if not for them at least be honest to yourself. This admistration and this dumb president got us into a mess. misled us, lied, yes lied as much as u don't like to hear it, he is a liar, and alot of ppl are dead. We are in bad hands right now. Usually at this time someone would say ,"oh if kerry were pres" whatever... or "Democrats don't even have a plan themselves.." If that's your response, then it further proves my point. Just pure Spin.
    We hear the "liar" thing all the time. Trust me it fades it's significance. You can't prove he's a liar. But we as can prove your party is all talk and no plan. And even if they did, they're to chicken and pussy to put it up to a vote. Their cowards, and they sure as glad for your lemming vote. You're their usefull idiot.


    Man up, take the responsibility to say the truth. Stop the spin already. THIS administration screwed up. No matter what subtopics derive from politics, this fact still remains.
    IF you say i'm blind, then you must first remove the plank from your own eye.
    Even if this administration did screw up, they have alot of time to fix this, and they are on the right side in this day and age. The republican party as of the 50's has been on the side of the US. The democrats, were always pro soviet, pro castro, and pro Ayatollah Khomeini.

    If america has to fail and be shamed for your party to succeed, then you should go hide and coil into your fetal position because your party won't survive. No spin here, just common sense.

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    Spin, spin , spin, and to think u actually were happy with that post and actually thought u said something. It's kind of like when everyday the news says Bush made a speech today and they play a clip and u hear the same bs broken record that's full of nothing.

    You did spin, Democrats voted to go to war ONLY if it were absolutely necessary as a last resort. Now one thing i will and have always agreed on is back then Dumbya was so popular , only because of 9/11 and his photos with the firemen, Demos didn't want to get against him. I understand that, doesn't make Dumbya right all of a sudden. And what the troops do is what W sent them to do, so stop that spin right there, this baloney, that we either think they r terrorists or not.

    the truth is what i was talking about.

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    Spin, spin , spin, and to think u actually were happy with that post and actually thought u said something. It's kind of like when everyday the news says Bush made a speech today and they play a clip and u hear the same bs broken record that's full of nothing.

    You did spin, Democrats voted to go to war ONLY if it were absolutely necessary as a last resort. Now one thing i will and have always agreed on is back then Dumbya was so popular , only because of 9/11 and his photos with the firemen, Demos didn't want to get against him. I understand that, doesn't make Dumbya right all of a sudden. And what the troops do is what W sent them to do, so stop that spin right there, this baloney, that we either think they r terrorists or not.

    the truth is what i was talking about.
    ^My, your an idiot. If they did have a problem with the way the resolution for war was used, and if they did intend for it to be used as a last resort, then they should of raised back then, rather than waiting like pussies to have the polls sink for the war.

    I don't have to spin. the fact is. The Democrats sold out, and you're justifying it. No matter how you look at it.


    They sold out iraqi children to "Bush's popularity" and photo ops. Maybe, that justifies it in your world. But you're a sick sad lemming who follows all their propaganda.

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    Spin, spin, spin

    Dumbya, your greatest president ever was the ONE who led this country to war. And that is a fact.

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    Sure did, and your pussy ass democrats, followed like the sleazebags they are.

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    And u act like your still in elementary school with all your name calling. how old r u?

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    so if they r sleazbags for following , what does that make Dumbya?

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    Back then, if bush told the democrats to jump, they'd say how high.

    If tom delay told them to sell out the Iraqi children, they said, what price?

    If Bush told them to sellout the poor and homeless by giving the rich a tax cut, the democrats said "The tax cut's to small."

    All we need is high poll numbers, and we'll have your party discard your sorry self.

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    so if they r sleazbags for following , what does that make Dumbya?

    The war pimp, and the democrats his ho's.

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    Maybe the dems actually wanted to work 2gether because of the tragedy of 9/11. The sleazebags were this administration, to take advantage of that in an evil way to get this country in a bogus war.

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    And u act like your still in elementary school with all your name calling. how old r u?
    YOu're such a , this is a sport's forum. nobody here takes you seriously.

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    The war pimp, and the democrats his ho's.
    again, acting childish. when a republican isn't in office after this term, we'll see how much laughing you'll be doing.

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    YOu're such a , this is a sport's forum. nobody here takes you seriously.
    coming from someone with no credibility

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    Maybe the dems actually wanted to work 2gether because of the tragedy of 9/11. The sleazebags were this administration, to take advantage of that in an evil way to get this country in a bogus war.

    I thought the democrats were way too smart. how could an "idiot" like Bush fool a bunch of "smart" democrats? C'mon, that wanting to work 2gether stuff is weak.

    You truly don't know why. You're just guessing.

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    like your guessing that Bush isn't a liar?
    nah, u know he is, just won't admit it.

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    again, acting childish. when a republican isn't in office after this term, we'll see how much laughing you'll be doing.

    I'll be fine, it's a democracy. We'll be back in power, and then another dumb republican will rise again and fool all the smart democrats once again.

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    like your guessing that Bush isn't a liar?
    nah, u know he is, just won't admit it.
    WTF?

    Ok, i get. Tag! your it!

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    and u always have to suffer , cuz you'll always be your sorry, low class, hateful self. That's worse.

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    WEll..:tired.

    Got to go nap.

    Have a good nights rest. Maybe when you wake up, you'll know that this is all a terrible dream, and that George Bush is just an idiot and not someone who fooled and tricked all those smart brainy democrats.

    There will be no war, and we'll be speaking arabic and wearing burkas.

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    nah, i'll pray for you.

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    WTF?

    Ok, i get. Tag! your it!
    i make a point, but u spin it again. nuff said.

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    What I said on another thread about gtown. Annoying and stupid.

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    Spin, spin, spin

    Dumbya, your greatest president ever was the ONE who led this country to war. And that is a fact.
    That's his job... Commander & Chief...

    And if you think GW Was about to let Osama pull off an attack bigger than Pearl and leave nothing for us to blow up in return your wrong.

    Of course Al Gore would not of invaded Iraq. He might not of gone into Afganistan. Clinton didn't even bother to visit NYC after the first WTC bombing. Only a few people died so It was no big deal.

    9/11 made Pearl look like a cakewalk. In terms of civilian target instead of a navy base and ships.

    The president decided Saddam was no long a safe risk. And he was re-elected without WMD found.

    Get over it.. Kerry Looses.. .he's done. toast...

    Kerry will never be President or Vice President... NEVER!

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    Everyone know about the strawman, how many times are you going to post this?
    As often as you commit this logical fallacy. If you get tired of seeing it, stop doing it. Easy.

    Nice use of ad hominem which you have railed against in the past.
    Actually my post wasn't quite ad hominem, and if you were more familiar with logic and reasoning, you might know that.

    If you had put even a small amount of time attempting to comprehend what it was I was getting at then you wouldn't have had to jump the gun with the strawman crap and the personal attack.

    Thanks for putting your critical thinking skills to use!
    I know exactly what you are getting at and I find the assertion to be intellectually dishonest.

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