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    Quin has two more years left on his deal after this one, he's not going anywhere

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    I'm in for Quin..

    If we can't get him, then Manu is 2nd on my list because the other names are uninspiring..
    Manu did a surprise interview on the Blitz last week and said he had no interest in coaching tbh.

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    Spurs getting figured out and exposed

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    We are ruining Wemby's career... I said it when he was a rookie... If we don't right the ship by his 3rd, year, this is who he is going to be, and I'm afraid his mentality will be what it is for the rest of his career... A talented big that settles for threes and is afraid of contact because he hasn't been placed in positions to learn how to use his size... They just let him do what he wants... No real coaching or accountability

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    I'm not a fan of that. Pop should either come back or not interfere at all with the coaching.

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    I'm not a fan of that. Pop should either come back or not interfere at all with the coaching.

    pop gonna pop. Hes like vince McMahon hes got nothing else

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    I don’t want Brian Wring choosing our next coach tbh. Fire him and THEN hire a new coach.

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    "Till the wheels fall off" .......

    Is not good in this context......

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    "Till the wheels fall off" .......

    Is not good in this context......
    1-5 in our last 6, tons of road games coming, this could get ugly...

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    I'm not a fan of that. Pop should either come back or not interfere at all with the coaching.
    holding the franchise hostage as usual. I can't wait for the old man to be out the door and just let young hungry people run things. I'm sure they won't play defensive schemes that were successful in the 90s.

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    No they wouldn't. Who's going to fire a head coach when he's on medical leave, just to bring in another head coach in the middle of the season? Especially for a team that you know isn't built to win a le? And if you're not going to fire Pop, then what coach in their right mind that's a head coach or in line to become a head coach, would come here for half a season, just to hand the job back over to Pop when he's fully recovered? Makes no sense at all.

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    No they wouldn't. Who's going to fire a head coach when he's on medical leave, just to bring in another head coach in the middle of the season? Especially for a team that you know isn't built to win a le? And if you're not going to fire Pop, then what coach in their right mind that's a head coach or in line to become a head coach, would come here for half a season, just to hand the job back over to Pop when he's fully recovered? Makes no sense at all.
    I'm not sure about replacing him half way the season, but I don't get the end of your post tbh

    It would be insane from the Spurs to let Pop take his job back, whether this or next season. With a job that is so demanding emotionally and physically, the risk of him having another attack is just too important and the Spurs would get killed by fans and medias if it happened.

    Pop is not coming back.

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    somebody has to explain to me how we can be 29th in defense in the last 5 games while playing Wemby 35 minutes per night? It's almost a miracle to be able to achieve that. That's 100% on the coaches.

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    Kerr goes down and the team wins what, 33 in a row or something obscene under the Oracle of Oracle, Luke Walton. Pop goes down and the team thinks they are at Rucker park.

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    somebody has to explain to me how we can be 29th in defense in the last 5 games while playing Wemby 35 minutes per night? It's almost a miracle to be able to achieve that. That's 100% on the coaches.
    Spurs are like 2nd in fewest fouls a game, meaning they are traffic cones because they certainly aren't all Bruce Bowen or JJJ.

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    somebody has to explain to me how we can be 29th in defense in the last 5 games while playing Wemby 35 minutes per night? It's almost a miracle to be able to achieve that. That's 100% on the coaches.
    Because Sochan, who Spurstalk experts talk about being a scrub and useless player, is out. As much as people hate Sochan with his terrible outside shooting, he is 2nd on the team in defence by most objective measures, behind Wemby. People often treat Castle as the defensive equivalent as Sochan and it simply isnt' the case, Castle is ranked low in almost all advanced defensive measure, and he is only 25 percentile in over CraftedDPM, while being 21st percentile in CraftedOPM. Sochan, meanwhile, is 51st in CraftedDPM and 24th in CraftedOPM. Not great, but he does make a difference, especially with his defensive versatility score (91st percentile) and offensive rebounding (90th).

    These are very different players, and bring different things to the table. What Castle brings is the ability to drive to the basket and some playmaking, which other players (Paul, *gulp* Keldon, and Wemby brings to the table), Sochan's role is rather unique, and nobody else on the Spurs really replaced that role.

    Vassell also hasn't been up to standard yet. It's good to see him at least trying on defence, and his offence seems to be getting sort of on track, other than the overly aggressive shot selection.

    Sochan and Castle can't be played together because of questionable offensive schemes. Amen Thompson and Sengun plays heavy minutes for the Rockets and both shot worse than Sochan and Castle, with less attempts. Ja Morant and Marcus Smart both shoots in the low 30s, Kevin Porter Jr. and Kris Dunn plays about 20mpg for the Clippers and both are comparably bad to Sochan and Castle shooting 3s. Jarret Allen and Mobley plays heavy minutes for the league leading Cavs (yes, Mobley shoots 42% but he rarely shoots them). Orlando has Anthony Black, Isaac, Cole Anthony, Suggs and even Franz Wagner, all poor to below average shooters.

    The Spurs should be able to put something together now in terms of offensive and defensive schemes, there just wasn't any.

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    Agree with the Sochan take, but even without him you can’t be 29th in defensive rating while having the DPOY playing most of the minutes. The Spurs should be top 10 defensive team since they can’t shoot, but somehow they can’t even accomplish that.

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    Because Sochan, who Spurstalk experts talk about being a scrub and useless player, is out. As much as people hate Sochan with his terrible outside shooting, he is 2nd on the team in defence by most objective measures, behind Wemby. People often treat Castle as the defensive equivalent as Sochan and it simply isnt' the case, Castle is ranked low in almost all advanced defensive measure, and he is only 25 percentile in over CraftedDPM, while being 21st percentile in CraftedOPM. Sochan, meanwhile, is 51st in CraftedDPM and 24th in CraftedOPM. Not great, but he does make a difference, especially with his defensive versatility score (91st percentile) and offensive rebounding (90th).

    These are very different players, and bring different things to the table. What Castle brings is the ability to drive to the basket and some playmaking, which other players (Paul, *gulp* Keldon, and Wemby brings to the table), Sochan's role is rather unique, and nobody else on the Spurs really replaced that role.

    Vassell also hasn't been up to standard yet. It's good to see him at least trying on defence, and his offence seems to be getting sort of on track, other than the overly aggressive shot selection.

    Sochan and Castle can't be played together because of questionable offensive schemes. Amen Thompson and Sengun plays heavy minutes for the Rockets and both shot worse than Sochan and Castle, with less attempts. Ja Morant and Marcus Smart both shoots in the low 30s, Kevin Porter Jr. and Kris Dunn plays about 20mpg for the Clippers and both are comparably bad to Sochan and Castle shooting 3s. Jarret Allen and Mobley plays heavy minutes for the league leading Cavs (yes, Mobley shoots 42% but he rarely shoots them). Orlando has Anthony Black, Isaac, Cole Anthony, Suggs and even Franz Wagner, all poor to below average shooters.

    The Spurs should be able to put something together now in terms of offensive and defensive schemes, there just wasn't any.
    Great take. There is a lot to be critical of Sochan for, and most certainly Castle and Sochan are currently unplayable together, but Sochan is a critical cog to our defense. 48 minutes of Wemby/Sochan/Castle is what makes our defense work best.

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    what is Mitch telling them at halftime?


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    To OP's statement "Any other team would have hired a coach by now"

    This is most certainly true, and it has nothing to do with Pop's stroke.

    This franchise and this coach are the only combination willing to tolerate being this bad, for this long. Not even other HOF GOATs get this length of rope. Another other team would have hired a new coach before this season even started (and probably even before that).
    Last edited by scott; 01-20-2025 at 03:01 PM.

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    Nah, more teams would have an interim coach and hire a permanent one in the offseason when new head and assistant coaches are actually available.

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    I do acknowledge that the timing of a potential Hammond hire would be different but that would still bring up the issue of availability for assistants.

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    I'm not sure about replacing him half way the season, but I don't get the end of your post tbh

    It would be insane from the Spurs to let Pop take his job back, whether this or next season. With a job that is so demanding emotionally and physically, the risk of him having another attack is just too important and the Spurs would get killed by fans and medias if it happened.

    Pop is not coming back.
    Ok, even if he doesn't come back after this. No team is going to hire a new coach mid season like this. It's always going to be an interim coaching off the bench stepping in to take over until the end of the season, no matter how bad he/she is coaching. After that, that's when they look at potential candidates. OP's le is way off.

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    biggest need after finding a back up C tbh. And the answer ain't Pop

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