The only way we trade any ATL pick is if we know it’s not lottery and/or getting us a big name player.
KJ was our creator / instigator on second unit. With CP3, Fox addition, and Castle explosion, we now have enough creators to span 48 minutes. That puts KJ in a more spacer / shooter role, which is a disaster for him (see last night against the Hornets). 2/0/0/0/0.
I wasn't meaning give up the Atlanta swap in 2026 and the pick in 2027 for just WCJ. That'd be stupid.
With Trae in Atlanta, they're probably a 35 - 40 ish win team, with upside in the draft in 2026 and 2027 - it's a good asset - probably think of them as around 10 - 14 with a chance to get a lot better. If Atlanta sees the writing on the Wall and wants to move on from Trae, they'd be a worse team, and be desperate to find some way of getting their picks back.
A Trae trade (to whatever destination, Orlando makes a bunch of sense, so using that as example) probably means Orlando is giving up Cole Anthony, Black, some other matching salary and a load of picks that project to be late-ish firsts, in - 25, 27, 29, 31...Don't know the exact value on Trae, but probably a few. If we got those 3 of those picks and WCJ for the 27 Hawks pick, the 26 swap and Keldon, we'd be in a good spot and the Hawks would be able to fully commit to the Tank - rather than being a mid level / fringe playoff team with Trae / Jalen Johnson etc.
Essentially, we'd be trading from a position of strength to get 3 picks for 1 and a swap. Same logic in a Houston trade - getting some of the Phoenix / Brooklyn picks with Atlanta getting theirs back, etc.
(I get that this is not a Keldon point and belongs better in the general trade thread).
The worst 11 minutes of basketball that I ever seen.
Johnson was a disaster tonight
I have thought Keldon Johnson was a worthless piece of who not only is a bad basketball player but also is bad for team culture for years now. But he is useful as a tank commander to keep the team down around 30 wins in the hopes the lottery balls will smile on the Spurs again. Mitch just has to keep his minutes in the range of plausible deniability.
What are you talking about? He was only 2-8 (nearly a shot per minute) and made 3 turnovers including a 2v1 fast break he threw away.
My favorite play of the entire game for him was actually on defense, though, where the Wiz got out in transition with one player, and rather than doubling said player as he posted in the paint, Keldon floated to the rim and waited to try to stat pad a rebound, which turned into an easy bucket.
I would sit him for the rest of the ing season if I were Mitch. So I'm looking forward to Johnson getting a cool 32 minute stint while Castle rots on the bench next game.
-7 in 11 minutes tonight. We lost the lead by almost a point per minute he was on the floor.
Not just bad for him, that was some Bronny James "you might not be good enough for the G-League" tonight.
Too bad Brian Wright didn't do a press conference and would never answer this question anyway... and too bad not a single Spurs beat writer will ever do the work to find out... but I really want to know how much effort was put into moving Keldon at the deadline. Aside from the fact that he's been complete dog outside of those two SadKeldon games, but he just crowds the rotation in trying to force his minutes. We have one SF too many in the rotation (not that either of them are particularly good, but Keldon is the worst of them).
We have to keep him cause he wears cowboy hats
This guy makes basketball look depressing.
If he gets us below Philly love da guy
Man, I’ve been a fan of Johnson tbh. I always liked his energy, gave me Malik rose vibes.
but it’s been painfully obvious that he’s been a net negative.
It’s time.
ehh, no GM would ever say "yeah we tried our best to move player X, but we couldnt find a deal so here he is"
A GM wouldn't say it, but there beat reporters often find out and report on it.
This wouldn’t help the team though, would it?
mamu should be playing over him.
"that's why we can't trade Keldon. He does so much important stuff off the court. He's our leader and loves cowboy hats."
Does local media reporting on the team to keep them accountable help teams? IDK, it's debatable. Does local media being slurping mouthpieces for the FO instead help the team? Also debatable I guess. Has it helped the Spurs?
perhaps they saw this and thought they'll do their own version of it...idk lol
Keldon playing like the Trade Deadline hasn't passed yet.
Keldon deserves some props. Been the only one playing with heart since the ASB.
I've wanted to give him props, but I don't know if it's because there is now no pressure. If he was playing like this a lot more often, then I wouldn't have wanted him gone.
This is a really fair and valid point. It’s kind of how like Devin seems to wake up in the second half of games we’re already losing badly in. It’s like KJ and Dev only know how to perform in losing time.
He has been playing great and I'd love to give him credit for it, but I just can't.
I hate to say it, but what you said might play into the losing culture of the past 3 or 4 years. KJ and Devin have been conditioned into it. They're not used to playing with any kind of pressure to get wins, so maybe this feels more normal to them and they can perform under these cir stances. I wouldn't be suprised if Devin starts having good games now too, but hopefully with him, it's because of the foot and he's not fully healed.
When the urgency was on to win games (before Victor was ruled out), they were nowhere to be found.
A 3 and D player can be put basically in any kind of system/lineups and turns into a positive player for the team.
Keldon is the opposite of that. He is a quite good player but if he isn't put in the proper setup, he will hurt the team. I don't know how Spurs roster will be built next year, but if they don't a have a spot for a player with Keldon's skillset, he should be traded this summer.
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